#AFL Round 20 Giants v Swans Sat 3-Aug at GIANTS Stadium #AFLGiantsSwans @sydneyswans

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  • stellation
    scott names the planets
    • Sep 2003
    • 9721

    Originally posted by Swanny40519
    Stevic would have given the free if it was Hawthorn or the Dogs ! But agree not the Swans.

    Just shows that the AFL want their love child to be successful.
    I think it was just a poor missed decision (as was the Menzel missed 50 metres), I don't think the umpires were working on orders from HQ to screw us over.
    I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
    We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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    • S.S. Bleeder
      Senior Player
      • Sep 2014
      • 2165

      Originally posted by Mel_C
      Reid's arm was pulled away so it should have been a free. It's not often you see Longmire do a Chris Scott in the box with his mouth open!
      It was either a clean mark or interference from the opponent. Either way Reid should've been lining up for goal. I'm actually happy they didn't pay it though because it keeps us within touch of making the bottom two. If only Rampe had been penalised for climbing the goal post we'd be a great chance of picking up Rowell or Anderson.
      Last edited by S.S. Bleeder; 4 August 2019, 10:56 AM.

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      • Mountain Man
        Regular in the Side
        • Feb 2008
        • 909

        No blame to the umpires for the Rose errors. And, no reason based on the “step up” from NEAFL to AFL.
        First a missed completion of a mark and second the kick into the man on the mark (after an excellent contested mark).
        Completion of either might have made the difference

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        • redsox
          Pushing for Selection
          • Jul 2007
          • 62

          Originally posted by Mountain Man
          No blame to the umpires for the Rose errors. And, no reason based on the “step up” from NEAFL to AFL.
          First a missed completion of a mark and second the kick into the man on the mark (after an excellent contested mark).
          Completion of either might have made the difference
          The definition of ‘school boy error’.

          Umpiring was alright. The paranoia and conspiracy theories are boring.

          2019 swans are not a finals outfit.

          Getting there last year papered over the cracks. Won’t be long til they are back.

          Rose and Ronke are list cloggers.

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          • Auntie.Gerald
            Veterans List
            • Oct 2009
            • 6480

            Clearance to advantage ?

            Just wondering if the above stat is freely available ?
            "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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            • barry
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 8499

              Clearences are our problem and if you look at our premierships, they both had two gun ruckmen. Jolly/ball and Mumford/Pyke.

              Right now, we have none.

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              • stevoswan
                Veterans List
                • Sep 2014
                • 8560

                Originally posted by stellation
                I think it was just a poor missed decision (as was the Menzel missed 50 metres), I don't think the umpires were working on orders from HQ to screw us over.
                Well the 'orders' didn't come this week.....they came after we recruited Buddy and they are still in play.

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                • Mel_C
                  Veterans List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 4470

                  Originally posted by barry
                  I'm all for umpire bashing when the free kick count is 2:1 against, but we won the free kick count by 3.
                  There was a low number of free kicks overall, which meant the umpires let the play go a lot, especially in the last quarter.
                  Unlucky, but no conspiracy here
                  Barry it's not the number of frees that are paid that's the issue. It's the obvious ones that are missed or the errors that frustrate us.

                  But I do agree with your earlier post that we should be concentrating on the missed shots at goal. We can control our goal kicking or turnovers but unfortunately we can't control the umpires.

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                  • Mel_C
                    Veterans List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 4470

                    Originally posted by stellation
                    I think it was just a poor missed decision (as was the Menzel missed 50 metres), I don't think the umpires were working on orders from HQ to screw us over.
                    Yes if anything the AFL would want us to finish higher up so that we don't get a good draft pick ????.

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                    • 111431
                      Regular in the Side
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 698

                      Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
                      It was either a clean mark or interference from the opponent. Either way Reid should've been lining up for goal. I'm actually happy they didn't pay it though because it keeps us within touch of making the bottom two. If only Rampe had been penalised for climbing the goal post we'd be a great chance of picking up Rowell
                      or Anderson.
                      Fully agree - this is the prize we want this year. The challenge will be the dees the week after next who are clearly tanking

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                      • Ludwig
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9359

                        We can stop dreaming about finishing 17h. If we do, the AFL will give a priority pick to GC so they can get both Rowell and Anderson.

                        The Reid incident became the game decider because it was the last of the poor umpiring decisions in this game. The pressure is really on the umpires in those critical moments of a game and like anyone under pressure, there is a greater propensity for making mistakes.

                        Many individual games are decided by umpiring. The hope for the AFL is that it all more or less evens out in the end and the final standings reflects the results of the season as a whole. But it's always going to be easy to promote an alternative viewpoint.

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                        • Nico
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 11339

                          Originally posted by Ludwig
                          We can stop dreaming about finishing 17h. If we do, the AFL will give a priority pick to GC so they can get both Rowell and Anderson.

                          The Reid incident became the game decider because it was the last of the poor umpiring decisions in this game. The pressure is really on the umpires in those critical moments of a game and like anyone under pressure, there is a greater propensity for making mistakes.

                          Many individual games are decided by umpiring. The hope for the AFL is that it all more or less evens out in the end and the final standings reflects the results of the season as a whole. But it's always going to be easy to promote an alternative viewpoint.
                          You would hope that the umpires who consistently make the gutsy calls get the big finals. Note that Stevic was teamed with a couple of lesser experienced umpires and Hawthorn can't make the finals so he might be missing out this year. I think Nicho has done his dash.
                          http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                          • Nico
                            Veterans List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 11339

                            Originally posted by barry
                            I'm all for umpire bashing when the free kick count is 2:1 against, but we won the free kick count by 3.
                            There was a low number of free kicks overall, which meant the umpires let the play go a lot, especially in the last quarter.
                            Unlucky, but no conspiracy here
                            Bazza, I had no problem with the umpiring until those 2 last frees not given. Saw one last night that wasn't as late as the one on Menzel and it was paid 50. And today a couple of feather touches on the arm paid as holding.
                            http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                            • troyjones2525
                              Swans Fanatic!
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 2908

                              Originally posted by Ludwig
                              We can stop dreaming about finishing 17h. If we do, the AFL will give a priority pick to GC so they can get both Rowell and Anderson.

                              The Reid incident became the game decider because it was the last of the poor umpiring decisions in this game. The pressure is really on the umpires in those critical moments of a game and like anyone under pressure, there is a greater propensity for making mistakes.

                              Many individual games are decided by umpiring. The hope for the AFL is that it all more or less evens out in the end and the final standings reflects the results of the season as a whole. But it's always going to be easy to promote an alternative viewpoint.
                              I totally agree with you Ludwig. If we drop to 17th (which would be great for us draft wise) then I would bet my left nut the AFL would give Gold Coast a priority pick to take away the opportunity of us selecting either Rowell or Anderson (either of which we could desperately do with). They may do it anyway to help GC draft them both as they are obviously close mates, but I reckon the chances would be much stronger if it was us staring at pick 2 rather than Melbourne.

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                              • barry
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 8499

                                If GC don't get a priority pick, then the AFL is more incompetent than I think they are.

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