UMPIRES - FREE KICKS
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Our numbers in finals are no better! Some time ago, I researched the free kick figures for the final series when we were the team everyone wanted to win. I didn't think we got a charmed run like the 2016 Bulldogs but wanted the figures to prove it.
2005 finals free kicks: Swans 53 Opponents 70
2012 finals fee kicks: Swans 40 Opponents 52
No help for us there, even though we were the sentimental favourites in both games.
2016 finals free kicks: Swans 59 Opponents 82
2016 finals free kicks: Puppies 79 Opponents 48
Actually, they have never healed
We are rarely on the plus side of frees.Comment
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I don't believe the umpires favour teams. Why would they do that? It would make a bit of a lie of their entire profession.
And I'm not saying umpiring is an easy gig or anything either. Stuff happens so fast on the field, I can barely keep up
with it watching the replay. But lots of jobs are hard, and that's what they signed up for and get paid for. I guess I think
if the umpires are coached to be aware of the crowd influence, then maybe that coaching is not working that well.
Because it's not as if visiting teams to Perth suddenly develop a more careless, or "dirty" game style on the flight over
there for the last twenty years.
My gripe is the frees not paid for throwing or just letting the ball go when tackled.Comment
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Until umpiring is a full time job, we will never get the professionalism we need.
I dont buy the "subconcious bias" argument. No doubt it exists, but if you are aware of it, you can compensate.
The great weight of evidence of home ground influence on free kicks (irrespective of team) is damning in its inherent unfairness.
Once they address that, they can then work out why some teams are favoured (fairypups) and others are harmed (Sydney teams)Comment
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It is the frees not paid that frustrate me. For the good part of a decade (Not so much the last year or so as our tackling is half as effective as it once was) we got very little reward for being fantastic pressure/tackling teams. The old Hawthorn 'dropsies from above' or the Fairypuppies 'throw at all costs' (Including the famous tunnel ball from the GF) great examples."You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."Comment
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In the modern game every aspect is analysed for advantage. I'm sure that coaches of every other team think that they can push the boundaries a bit further against the Swans without being penalised. That must be worth a few percent.Comment
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Once again I call for a comparison of Tribunal penalties by team.
I reckon our $ fines and weeks suspended, (ie penalties for dirty/dangerous play) would be at the low end of the competition.Comment
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Until umpiring is a full time job, we will never get the professionalism we need.
I dont buy the "subconcious bias" argument. No doubt it exists, but if you are aware of it, you can compensate.
The great weight of evidence of home ground influence on free kicks (irrespective of team) is damning in its inherent unfairness.
Once they address that, they can then work out why some teams are favoured (fairypups) and others are harmed (Sydney teams)Comment
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UMPIRES - FREE KICKS
Until umpiring is a full time job, we will never get the professionalism we need.
I dont buy the "subconcious bias" argument. No doubt it exists, but if you are aware of it, you can compensate.
The great weight of evidence of home ground influence on free kicks (irrespective of team) is damning in its inherent unfairness.
Once they address that, they can then work out why some teams are favoured (fairypups) and others are harmed (Sydney teams)
The problem with the subconscious bias is that no-one can work out *how* to compensate for it. It’s extremely powerful and being aware of it doesn’t help much.
It’s not just sport. We’re all aware of the placebo effect, but amazingly it works **even if you tell the patient you are giving them a placebo**. That is, if you give a sick person a tablet and say “Here you go. This is a sugar tablet. It won’t help you in any way”, they still feel better than if you give them nothing!
With Australian Rules the problem is that the rules rely on interpretation so much it gives a lot of room for that bias to take effect. They need to be made less ambiguous and easier to adjudicate. If you ask someone to pick a number between 1 and 100, there is a clear bias to odd numbers, but no-one is going to say 24 + 12 = 37 because of that bias.Comment
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They are aware of subconscious bias because they have all the stats to show them.
Umpires can change their interpretations in -match. They do this in the last 10 mins of close games, known as 'putting away the whistle'.
So they know, they can change, it's just a question of 'do they want to'?Comment
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They are aware of subconscious bias because they have all the stats to show them.
Umpires can change their interpretations in -match. They do this in the last 10 mins of close games, known as 'putting away the whistle'.
So they know, they can change, it's just a question of 'do they want to'?
The problem is it doesn't work. So what's the answer? I'm not sure, but I'm happy to hear your thoughts (remember "They're aware of it and should just stop it" is a proven failure).
I have read some crazy suggestions regarding blindfolded umpires, or umpires with video cameras relaying a feed to an off-site venue where someone makes decisions, but I'm yet to hear something that is practical.
There is tons of interesting research around subconscious bias that they might be able to tap into. Perhaps there are some tricky psychological "hacks" they can use to overcome it, but what they are is not yet clear. It's a very tough problem and in an environment as difficult to control as a football game it becomes even harder.Comment
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I've given that some thought over the years/decades. We have always been at the bottom of the table for the fors vs againsts. The main contributing factor would be the crowd noise but other than that the only other thing that I can think of is the attitude of our players or the colours of our uniforms. Maybe we should start wearing the majority white uniform?Comment
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The data is telling. I'll love to get my hands on it and do some more analysis on it if anyone has the file. Just pm me if you have and can share. I'd like to look at colour, home ground influence and how the results vary over time. Also the relationship with other stats like inside 50s vs defense 50s etc. I can throw all the variables into a Random Forest model to predict frees for vs against differential and use the other variables as independent predictors. The model would show the proportion of variance explained for each input.
Re the bias, my actual theory is that it's an effect similar to watching your team play. When I watch the swans I literally watch the swans not the other team. I'm one eyed. I think we get 'watched' or maybe it is the other way around.He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.Comment
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