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  • Mark26
    Senior Player
    • Jan 2017
    • 1535

    #16
    The result of this game is irrelevant, apart from momentum going into the preseason and possibly a third instead of a fourth pick (if we lose and Carlton get up).

    With that in mind, I'd play McVeigh and Jack in front of a home crowd. What better way to send off? I'd also play Bud if he's fit.

    In: Bud and McVeigh
    Out: Bell and Clarke.

    Mills to play mids. McVeigh in the backline.

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    • Go Swannies
      Veterans List
      • Sep 2003
      • 5697

      #17
      Originally posted by Mark26
      The result of this game is irrelevant, apart from momentum going into the preseason and possibly a third instead of a fourth pick (if we lose and Carlton get up).

      With that in mind, I'd play McVeigh and Jack in front of a home crowd. What better way to send off? I'd also play Bud if he's fit.

      In: Bud and McVeigh
      Out: Bell and Clarke.

      Mills to play mids. McVeigh in the backline.
      So we're reliant on the Blues beating the Cats. That's likely to end well. Maybe we may as well just plan for the win and some slight momentum to carry us through the next seven months.

      On the other hand, how good were the two top of the table clashes over the weekend? It could be a fun, stress-free finals series.

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      • Cosmic Wizard
        recruit me pretty please!
        • Sep 2005
        • 620

        #18
        Originally posted by Blood Fever
        Agree with this. Still a young player and gets to many contests.
        I accept that he is a young player; but he has being in the system a long time.

        2016 6 games
        2017 15 games
        2018 19 games
        2019 14 games

        His composure compare to say Rowbottom is quite marked.

        Maybe its down to Scott being his coach, i hope so, but we need to see some mark improvements.

        All our Free agents from 2018 do have a shadow over them.

        Its harder and harder to find gems in the rough.
        doof-doof

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        • Mark26
          Senior Player
          • Jan 2017
          • 1535

          #19
          Originally posted by Go Swannies
          So we're reliant on the Blues beating the Cats. That's likely to end well. Maybe we may as well just plan for the win and some slight momentum to carry us through the next seven months.

          On the other hand, how good were the two top of the table clashes over the weekend? It could be a fun, stress-free finals series.
          I'm not suggesting we tank, if that's how you read my post Cosmic. I think there are much bigger things attached to this final game. Sending off two former captains of the club is where I'm at.

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          • Melbourne_Blood
            Senior Player
            • May 2010
            • 3312

            #20
            Originally posted by Go Swannies
            So we're reliant on the Blues beating the Cats. That's likely to end well. Maybe we may as well just plan for the win and some slight momentum to carry us through the next seven months.

            On the other hand, how good were the two top of the table clashes over the weekend? It could be a fun, stress-free finals series.
            Totally agree with the second part. Was at the game at the G yesterday and couldn’t believe my luck , I hoped it would be as good a matchup in reality as it was on paper but my expectations were blown away. It was finals like , and the tiger fans are bloody loud !! Can’t wait for a cracking finals series and hopefully a Lions flag .


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            • Go Swannies
              Veterans List
              • Sep 2003
              • 5697

              #21
              Originally posted by Mark26
              I'm not suggesting we tank, if that's how you read my post Cosmic. I think there are much bigger things attached to this final game. Sending off two former captains of the club is where I'm at.
              Cosmic? Too arcane for me though it has led to me playing Cosmo's Factory and enjoying Creedence all over again. Thanks.

              If tanking would give us a better pick I'd be all for it - we'd just have to play some rusty players and some others out of position. But the point I was making is that I expect the chances of Carlton beating the Cats is only slightly better than the Dees' would be. I could be wrong but the Cats played some great footy at the weekend while the Blues got over the Saints.

              If we lose to the Saints then I'm one of the old dark navy blues on Saturday night - though I believe only the first two in the draft are really special and their specialness may take them to the Suns. What a fate.

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              • Faunac8
                Senior Player
                • Mar 2014
                • 1548

                #22
                Tanking is a blight on sport and it’s an activity that should be penalised when it occurs.
                It’s tantamount to fraud when there are viewers and spectators paying good money in the hope of seeing if not a victory at least a genuine effort. If you doubt the impact it has check out some of the farcical efforts put on by teams in the NBA , it is so ingrained in the culture that they had to change the rules to stop teams trying ( or actually not trying ) to manipulate it.

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                • rb4x
                  Regular in the Side
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 970

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Faunac8
                  Tanking is a blight on sport and it’s an activity that should be penalised when it occurs.
                  It’s tantamount to fraud when there are viewers and spectators paying good money in the hope of seeing if not a victory at least a genuine effort. If you doubt the impact it has check out some of the farcical efforts put on by teams in the NBA , it is so ingrained in the culture that they had to change the rules to stop teams trying ( or actually not trying ) to manipulate it.
                  Totally agree with you Faunac8

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                  • KSAS
                    Senior Player
                    • Mar 2018
                    • 1829

                    #24
                    IN: Buddy, McVeigh, Smith, Grundy
                    OUT: Ronke, Bell, Clarke, Fox

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                    • top40
                      Regular in the Side
                      • May 2007
                      • 933

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Markwebbos
                      This might be the hardest to predict of all, given sentiment will be involved. This is an optimists version.

                      IN: Buddy, Macca, Cameron
                      OUT: Bell, Ronke, Melican
                      Having a last game for Macca and Kieran, as well as the occasion of Buddy’s 300th , makes this Round 23 game potentially such a wonderful occasion with great and exciting expectation of the seasons ahead.

                      It may remind us of the last 2 occasions when the Swans finished their season in a Home and Away game-

                      In 2002 against Richmond at the Olympic Stadium we farewelled Paul Kelly and Andrew Dunkley. It was the end of one era and the beginning of another. Paul Roos was signed on as a permanent coach a few weeks later, and we drafted a couple of teenagers who became Premiership players-Macca and Nick Melchelski. The next year we hosted a Preliminary Final. Three years later we won the flag.


                      In 2009 against Brisbane at the SCG we farewelled Micky O, Brett Kirk and Leo Barry. That spring we welcomed Lewis Jetta and Gary Rohan in the draft, as well as Josh Kennedy and Ben McGylnn in the trade, all 2012 players in our Flag year. The next year we hosted and won a finals game (against Carlton). Three years later we won flag.

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                      • MattW
                        Veterans List
                        • May 2011
                        • 4240

                        #26
                        Originally posted by top40
                        Having a last game for Macca and Kieran, as well as the occasion of Buddy’s 300th , makes this Round 23 game potentially such a wonderful occasion with great and exciting expectation of the seasons ahead.

                        It may remind us of the last 2 occasions when the Swans finished their season in a Home and Away game-

                        In 2002 against Richmond at the Olympic Stadium we farewelled Paul Kelly and Andrew Dunkley. It was the end of one era and the beginning of another. Paul Roos was signed on as a permanent coach a few weeks later, and we drafted a couple of teenagers who became Premiership players-Macca and Nick Melchelski. The next year we hosted a Preliminary Final. Three years later we won the flag.


                        In 2009 against Brisbane at the SCG we farewelled Micky O, Brett Kirk and Leo Barry. That spring we welcomed Lewis Jetta and Gary Rohan in the draft, as well as Josh Kennedy and Ben McGylnn in the trade, all 2012 players in our Flag year. The next year we hosted and won a finals game (against Carlton). Three years later we won flag.
                        Good post!

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                        • Mark26
                          Senior Player
                          • Jan 2017
                          • 1535

                          #27
                          Originally posted by top40
                          Having a last game for Macca and Kieran, as well as the occasion of Buddy’s 300th , makes this Round 23 game potentially such a wonderful occasion with great and exciting expectation of the seasons ahead.

                          It may remind us of the last 2 occasions when the Swans finished their season in a Home and Away game-

                          In 2002 against Richmond at the Olympic Stadium we farewelled Paul Kelly and Andrew Dunkley. It was the end of one era and the beginning of another. Paul Roos was signed on as a permanent coach a few weeks later, and we drafted a couple of teenagers who became Premiership players-Macca and Nick Melchelski. The next year we hosted a Preliminary Final. Three years later we won the flag.


                          In 2009 against Brisbane at the SCG we farewelled Micky O, Brett Kirk and Leo Barry. That spring we welcomed Lewis Jetta and Gary Rohan in the draft, as well as Josh Kennedy and Ben McGylnn in the trade, all 2012 players in our Flag year. The next year we hosted and won a finals game (against Carlton). Three years later we won flag.
                          Well said Top40. We can learn a lot from looking back. Hopefully we recruit well in the next couple of years and have another crack at it.

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                          • Blood Fever
                            Veterans List
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 4063

                            #28
                            Originally posted by top40
                            Having a last game for Macca and Kieran, as well as the occasion of Buddy’s 300th , makes this Round 23 game potentially such a wonderful occasion with great and exciting expectation of the seasons ahead.

                            It may remind us of the last 2 occasions when the Swans finished their season in a Home and Away game-

                            In 2002 against Richmond at the Olympic Stadium we farewelled Paul Kelly and Andrew Dunkley. It was the end of one era and the beginning of another. Paul Roos was signed on as a permanent coach a few weeks later, and we drafted a couple of teenagers who became Premiership players-Macca and Nick Melchelski. The next year we hosted a Preliminary Final. Three years later we won the flag.


                            In 2009 against Brisbane at the SCG we farewelled Micky O, Brett Kirk and Leo Barry. That spring we welcomed Lewis Jetta and Gary Rohan in the draft, as well as Josh Kennedy and Ben McGylnn in the trade, all 2012 players in our Flag year. The next year we hosted and won a finals game (against Carlton). Three years later we won flag.
                            Great post- we also got Mummy with Mcglynn and Kennedy. He was huge for us.

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                            • Jeynez
                              Warming the Bench
                              • May 2013
                              • 223

                              #29
                              I personally wouldn't risk Buddy this weekend. Besides, the AFL could make Round 1 versus the Hawks for his 300th, which would be an amazing spectacle.

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                              • barracuda
                                Regular in the Side
                                • Jun 2016
                                • 551

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Jeynez
                                I personally wouldn't risk Buddy this weekend. Besides, the AFL could make Round 1 versus the Hawks for his 300th, which would be an amazing spectacle.
                                If you hate Hawthorn who are a bunch of sniping cheats, why give them a full house with Buddy's 300th.

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