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  • bloodspirit
    Clubman
    • Apr 2015
    • 4448

    #16
    Originally posted by liz
    Why is it that the AFL media team feels the need to change the look, feel and organisation of its website (and those of the clubs) on an annual basis? Or frequently enough that it feels annual?

    Part of my irritation with the new look Swans website is just that it is different. But there are a couple of changes that are particularly disappointing / annoying:

    - the ability to see player information in list format, rather than headshot format. It was a very useful tool when you wanted to look up information on players (especially from opposition clubs) such as age, debut, games played, without having to click through numerous individual profiles. That view also enabled you to cut and paste a player list into excel if you wanted to create your own scoring page (and not shell out on the Record every game).

    - the links to radio interviews with Swans players and personnel. Those seem to have completely disappeared. The Sinclair podcasts are still available (under Podcasts) but I'd often sit and listen to interviews on SEN and other media via those links, useful as I don't listen to radio stations "live".
    Worse than this is the reduction in content and disabling/removal of the search function. There is however, one improvement: they have re-added the links to the other radio interviews etc - it's on the podcasts page https://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news-and-media/podcasts.



    Also, just went to check whether there is anything to see on the player profiles and it's the usual dismal story:

    * The players traded in are there. They have bios and photos showing them on our list in the stripe of their former teams (Hawks/Port/Brisbane).

    * The draftees are also there and have bios. With the exception of Brady Rowles alone, none of them have a photo. Search me why they made an exception for Brady.

    * The rest of the players are there with photos and bios but there write-ups only refer to their 2018 seasons. Also, the photos are out of date so you can still enjoy Stoddart's luscious locks, Matt Ling's baby face and appreciate how bad Sam Naismith's hairstyle was a year ago.
    Last edited by bloodspirit; 23 January 2020, 02:01 PM.
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    • bloodspirit
      Clubman
      • Apr 2015
      • 4448

      #17
      An unusually good season preview: The Good, Bad And Ugly - Sydney Swans 2020 Season Preview - The Mongrel Punt. It's rare to see content this good in the media. And that's without seeing the part of the article that is for subscribers only. It's not that it's brilliant but it's actually competent and that is sadly unexpected. I usually rely on RWO to provide this level of insight (sure, one has to filter through a fair bit of other stuff including people's views about the Chinese government... but I suppose that's part of the charm).

      The preview evidences real knowledge of our list, including those on the fringes of the 22, like Fox. Curiously, makes absolutely no reference to our draftees. While they aren't going to be mainstays of our team, I think there is a real chance that Dyl Stephens and Will Gould will have some impact on our season. There's also persuasive discussion about our need to find a replacement for JPK and that it seems Hewett may not cut it but no mention of our up and coming players like Rowbottom and, who knows, Warner.

      In short, worth a read.
      All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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      • Melbourne_Blood
        Senior Player
        • May 2010
        • 3312

        #18
        Originally posted by bloodspirit
        An unusually good season preview: The Good, Bad And Ugly - Sydney Swans 2020 Season Preview - The Mongrel Punt. It's rare to see content this good in the media. And that's without seeing the part of the article that is for subscribers only. It's not that it's brilliant but it's actually competent and that is sadly unexpected. I usually rely on RWO to provide this level of insight (sure, one has to filter through a fair bit of other stuff including people's views about the Chinese government... but I suppose that's part of the charm).

        The preview evidences real knowledge of our list, including those on the fringes of the 22, like Fox. Curiously, makes absolutely no reference to our draftees. While they aren't going to be mainstays of our team, I think there is a real chance that Dyl Stephens and Will Gould will have some impact on our season. There's also persuasive discussion about our need to find a replacement for JPK and that it seems Hewett may not cut it but no mention of our up and coming players like Rowbottom and, who knows, Warner.

        In short, worth a read.
        That was fantastic , thanks for sharing !


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        • KSAS
          Senior Player
          • Mar 2018
          • 1793

          #19
          +2 From me as well.
          I particularly resonated what he wrote about Heeney, Papley and Buddy as I have the same thoughts. Quite a insightful piece from a Hawks fan!
          Last edited by KSAS; 25 January 2020, 08:16 AM.

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          • Melbourne_Blood
            Senior Player
            • May 2010
            • 3312

            #20
            Originally posted by KSAS
            +2 From me as well.
            I particularly resonated what he wrote about Heeney, Papley and Buddy as I have the same thoughts. Quite a insightful piece from a Hawks fan!
            Yeah I was surprised at his knowledge of our team as well ! He did apparently overlook Dawson’s laser boot when pumping him up though, but a great piece none the less!


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            • Mountain Man
              Regular in the Side
              • Feb 2008
              • 908

              #21
              Not strictly on Swans Media, but I reckon the new AFL format is a dud.

              You get an opening 'view' which is all glossy and teasing, but all it means is that you are another click from actually seeing any news. Then it is a fragmented into categories and multiple clicks to find news if you haven't been reading it every day.

              Then, with typical AFL arrogance, if there is any way to give feedback, it was not apparent to me. The only 'contact' just leads to a Telstra site

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              • Mountain Man
                Regular in the Side
                • Feb 2008
                • 908

                #22
                We have had the Swans 'photo day' with the principal AFL photographer being there - but still the Swans player profiles remain in the same unamended state. Really in February, we should give a big HELLO AFL to get off their arses to fix it
                OR
                get a volunteer into the Swans office to fix it if there is no-one in the office with the skills

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                • rickmat
                  Regular in the Side
                  • Mar 2018
                  • 500

                  #23
                  Mountain Man, you are right. I actually contacted Swans and asked about the update of the pics. I have done tgat for the past 3 years and each year the excuse is different. Last year, they were waiting on the upgrade of the new AFL website as well as Champion Data so they could be included on the new website. Swans control their own content but dont seem to have any dedicated resource to make sure it happens. I also ask when the player bios can be updated as some are still the same as 2018!!!!! This is farcical and happens year in year out. Its as if social media is unimportant and keeping fans informed. The worst part from my point of view is that they dont care about their players, their morale or information. Ho hum

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                  • lorakf
                    Pushing for Selection
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 53

                    #24
                    Also, latest McVeigh story is from an SEN interview 11 days ago. The media team seem to struggle to get access to the players judging on their reliance on writing stories from external media interviews, now with added delay.


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                    • Legs Akimbo
                      Grand Poobah
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 2809

                      #25
                      Must be heartwarming for Barry O'Connor's parents to periodically visit his profile picture where he strangely looks like a Volkswagen logo.

                      Interesting that Kaiden Brand has chosen to play on in his hawthorn Guernsey. Hope that doesn't cause confusion during the season.
                      He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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                      • stevoswan
                        Veterans List
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 8559

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Legs Akimbo
                        Must be heartwarming for Barry O'Connor's parents to periodically visit his profile picture where he strangely looks like a Volkswagen logo.

                        Interesting that Kaiden Brand has chosen to play on in his hawthorn Guernsey. Hope that doesn't cause confusion during the season.
                        Taylor and Gray will be playing in their old jumpers as well by the looks of it.......

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                        • rb4x
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 968

                          #27
                          They still don't have photos of McLean and Knoll either.

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                          • royboy42
                            Senior Player
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 2078

                            #28
                            I wonder whatever happened to the lovely person who used to monitor this site at the Swans?

                            She used to reply and set us straight often. Invaluable. But disappeared.

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                            • bloodspirit
                              Clubman
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 4448

                              #29
                              If it's any consolation, I noticed that Saints players' pictures still have them (e.g. Zak Jones) in their previous club uniforms too.
                              All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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                              • liz
                                Veteran
                                Site Admin
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 16773

                                #30
                                Originally posted by royboy42
                                I wonder whatever happened to the lovely person who used to monitor this site at the Swans?

                                She used to reply and set us straight often. Invaluable. But disappeared.
                                I think she had a baby.

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