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  • barry
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 8499

    Swans chat #AFL Finals week 3 weekly discussion thread

    My Predictions for Week 3.

    Richmond will have won the game by 1/2 time, and coast to victory. No Hawkins, No Geelong


    Giants will win by 30. Collingwood is seriously overrated. (However, if Giants select Lauchie Keefe, I reverse this prediction)


    I also predict that Toby Greene will get off tonight, based on a number of factors:
    1) Giants are lawyering up, so its a legal battle rather than the opinion of a few ex collingwood players.
    2) The Faux outrage against Toby has died down a bit.
    3) The AFL will see that losing Whitfield is enough of a disadvantage, they dont need to introduce their own.
    If Greene's bid fails, I will self-impose a weeks ban for myself on RWO, because I will have lost the capacity for rational thought. (Sheeple, save yourself the trouble of typing a predictable response)
  • erica
    Happy and I know it
    • Jan 2008
    • 1247

    #2
    Originally posted by barry
    My Predictions for Week 3.

    I also predict that Toby Greene will get off tonight, based on a number of factors:
    1) Giants are lawyering up, so its a legal battle rather than the opinion of a few ex collingwood players.
    2) The Faux outrage against Toby has died down a bit.
    3) The AFL will see that losing Whitfield is enough of a disadvantage, they dont need to introduce their own.
    If Greene's bid fails, I will self-impose a weeks ban for myself on RWO, because I will have lost the capacity for rational thought. (Sheeple, save yourself the trouble of typing a predictable response)
    Greene's appeal is likely to get up but the only thing consistent about the AFL is its inconsistency so anything could happen.
    All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke

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    • AnnieH
      RWOs Black Sheep
      • Aug 2006
      • 11332

      #3
      Little grubby will be watching from the sidelines this week. The outrage if they let him play will ruin the AFL.

      Wobbles/GW$ = even less interesting that last year's granny.
      Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
      Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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      • KTigers
        Senior Player
        • Apr 2012
        • 2499

        #4
        Originally posted by erica
        Greene's appeal is likely to get up but the only thing consistent about the AFL is its inconsistency so anything could happen.
        I would like to see the tribunal members impose a week's ban on themselves. Their reputation, already in tatters, won't survive
        yet another week of disasters so they may as well give themselves the week off. And whatever happens in the prelims happens.

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        • Hotpotato
          Senior Player
          • Jun 2014
          • 2261

          #5
          Cricket umps aren’t even allowed to be from any of the countries involved.
          Two ex Collingwood players on the tribunal. They may as well have had
          Eddie McGuire and T. Shaw on the panel.
          T. Greene should be playing. I hope he does.
          The Pies win easily if he doesn’t.
          The Cats won’t see which way The Tigers went, September cool composed specialists.

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          • jono2707
            Goes up to 11
            • Oct 2007
            • 3326

            #6
            Go the Pies.

            (Feels like choosing Ebola over the Plague)

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            • Melbourne_Blood
              Senior Player
              • May 2010
              • 3312

              #7
              Originally posted by erica
              Greene's appeal is likely to get up but the only thing consistent about the AFL is its inconsistency so anything could happen.
              I wouldn’t say it is likely to be honest. Very uncommon for tribunal verdicts to be overturned in the appeals process.


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              • stevoswan
                Veterans List
                • Sep 2014
                • 8543

                #8
                Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
                I wouldn’t say it is likely to be honest. Very uncommon for tribunal verdicts to be overturned in the appeals process.
                That is indeed true....but in this case, if they stick to the evidence and law and ignore public opinion, which is what made them feel safe handing out this ridiculous verdict and penalty in the first place, this charge will rightly be thrown out.

                I think most sensible people can see that the first decision was grossly flawed on the evidence available and given. The tribunal also made a mistake the week before, when they should have suspended Green but didn't, for the Bont incident, which was far worse than the Neale one.....but that incident and penalty should be completely irrelevant now to tonights decision.

                I can't help but think the first tribunal hearing had last weeks Bont incident 'mistake' firmly in their minds when they adjudicated this week.....and they shouldn't have.

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                • Melbourne_Blood
                  Senior Player
                  • May 2010
                  • 3312

                  #9
                  Originally posted by stevoswan
                  That is indeed true....but in this case, if they stick to the evidence and law and ignore public opinion, which is what made them feel safe handing out this ridiculous verdict and penalty in the first place, this charge will rightly be thrown out.

                  I think most sensible people can see that the first decision was grossly flawed on the evidence available and given. The tribunal also made a mistake the week before, when they should have suspended Green but didn't, for the Bont incident, which was far worse than the Neale one.....but that incident and penalty should be completely irrelevant now to tonights decision.

                  I can't help but think the first tribunal hearing had last weeks Bont incident 'mistake' firmly in their minds when they adjudicated this week.....and they shouldn't have.
                  I was of the same view earlier in the week , but the Neale incident has a pretty damning “ money shot “ ( Nathan Buckley’s words ) that was lacking in the Bont incident , even though that seemed much worse . And it’s that shot I believe they have based their case on, and it’s hard to argue with . They have charged him with making unnecessary contact to the eyes and they have pretty clear footage of exactly that. Especially as he was accused of a very similar thing in the previous week. Hard to argue accidental when the form is there . Neales testimony obviously taken with a grain of salt and so it should , players always look after each other at the tribunal . and especially when a finals berth is on the line.

                  It’s his own stupid fault, his stupidity is likely going to cost his team a fair dinkum crack in a prelim and shot at making a maiden GF. He should feel terrible for being such a grub and a twit and letting down his teammates , coach and ‘fans’.


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                  • stevoswan
                    Veterans List
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 8543

                    #10
                    It's official....Greene won't play this weekend.

                    From the live feed:

                    "It's official - Toby Greene will NOT play in Saturday's preliminary final. The AFL Appeals Board has rejected his last-ditch bid to free his name."

                    Off to court now?

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                    • 0918330512
                      Senior Player
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 1654

                      #11
                      Originally posted by stevoswan
                      It's official....Greene won't play this weekend.

                      From the live feed:

                      "It's official - Toby Greene will NOT play in Saturday's preliminary final. The AFL Appeals Board has rejected his last-ditch bid to free his name."

                      Off to court now?
                      He should have got an extra week for wasting everyone’s time

                      Justice is finally served

                      Now if Collingwood can just get up (with 22 injuries or suspensions - not fussed either way occurring during the game), it’ll finally be a good result in September!

                      - - - Updated - - -

                      Originally posted by Hotpotato
                      Cricket umps aren’t even allowed to be from any of the countries involved.
                      Two ex Collingwood players on the tribunal. They may as well have had
                      Eddie McGuire and T. Shaw on the panel.
                      T. Greene should be playing. I hope he does.
                      The Pies win easily if he doesn’t.
                      The Cats won’t see which way The Tigers went, September cool composed specialists.
                      Williams is probably more a Swan than a Pie

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                      • Thunder Shaker
                        Aut vincere aut mori
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 4150

                        #12
                        My tips for the prelims: the Ferals and the Filth.

                        The Ferals will have the benefit of the week off, and the Handbags haven't won two games in a row since their bye.

                        The Filth will be going up against the Fums, a side that has only won at the MCG three times and have never won a final there.

                        The Magpie Train.
                        "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                        • Hotpotato
                          Senior Player
                          • Jun 2014
                          • 2261

                          #13
                          Lots of great lines in that catchy ditty .

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                          • Velour&Ruffles
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 896

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
                            It’s his own stupid fault, his stupidity is likely going to cost his team a fair dinkum crack in a prelim and shot at making a maiden GF. He should feel terrible for being such a grub and a twit and letting down his teammates , coach and ‘fans’.


                            Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
                            Spot on.
                            I for one hope GWS lose by one point, so it inarguable that this vile little germ cost his team a GF berth and possibly a flag.
                            My opinion is objective truth in its purest form

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                            • goswannies
                              Senior Player
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 3048

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Velour&Ruffles
                              Spot on.
                              I for one hope GWS lose by one point, so it inarguable that this vile little germ cost his team a GF berth and possibly a flag.
                              Greene expressed “remorse” during his previous guilty finding. Was there any remorse this time?

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