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  • aardvark
    Veterans List
    • Mar 2010
    • 5685

    This is going to cost the AFL many millions of dollars. It will take a long time to recover if ever. It could also spell the end for the AFLW if they can't afford to fund it next year .

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    • mcs
      Travelling Swannie!!
      • Jul 2007
      • 8168

      Originally posted by aardvark
      This is going to cost the AFL many millions of dollars. It will take a long time to recover if ever. It could also spell the end for the AFLW if they can't afford to fund it next year .
      The game will recover. The AFL as an entity may not - but if it disappears, something will rise from the ashes to replace it.
      "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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      • stevoswan
        Veterans List
        • Sep 2014
        • 8560

        At least we're top eight!

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        • Bexl
          Regular in the Side
          • Jan 2003
          • 817

          And will be there for a while

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          • 707
            Veterans List
            • Aug 2009
            • 6204

            Originally posted by stevoswan
            At least we're top eight!
            Might be top 8 at seasons end given it may not get underway again.

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            • barry
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 8499

              Originally posted by mcs
              The game will recover. The AFL as an entity may not - but if it disappears, something will rise from the ashes to replace it.
              Not quite sure what you mean by the game will recover.

              Lets play forward the idea that the AFL disolves due to bankruptcy. This will no doubt take a few clubs with it, with all us northern clubs very vunerable financially. And probably a few other clubs who are just at the wrong economic cycle to ride this out.
              What will the new Aussie rules league look like. What teams will compete in it ?

              Swans arent in a great position financially, even in a normal year:
              2019: The Sydney Swans have reported a net operating loss of $509,625 for the year ending October 31, 2019. Net assets were $2,201,819.

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              • royboy42
                Senior Player
                • Apr 2006
                • 2078

                Remind me...how did we get Pick 4?

                Originally posted by 707
                If the season was cancelled completely, would that be good or bad for us compared to other teams?

                Would a year off aid or hinder Buddy? What about players probably in their last season like Ablett and Burgoyne, would they go round again in 2021 if that season is on?

                What form will the National Draft take given there's likely to be no U18 form to go on? We'll have pick 4. Will the AFL bite the bullet and use the crisis to push the draft age to 19 with this years draft having none of the U18 crop?

                Lots of questions, no answers!

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                • 707
                  Veterans List
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 6204

                  Originally posted by royboy42
                  Remind me...how did we get Pick 4?
                  In the absence of a usable season this year, they will use last years finishing order, we were 15th, no GC PP this year, so we have pick 4

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                  • Industrial Fan
                    Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 3318

                    Thankfully Buddy got his 300th in last year. Who knows what the future holds
                    He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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                    • KTigers
                      Senior Player
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 2499

                      Originally posted by mcs
                      The game will recover. The AFL as an entity may not - but if it disappears, something will rise from the ashes to replace it.
                      The article below on the AFL website sums up very succinctly what is happening right now in tens and possibly hundreds of thousands
                      of businesses around the country.

                      Leave without pay: Expansion clubs set to be hit hard

                      The article highlights the expansion clubs but virtually all the clubs spend every dollar that comes in the door, and have very little in
                      way of cash reserves. To pay the players and the club staff you have to have money in the bank. That money comes because you
                      have a product to sell. As of yesterday the clubs don't. They are no different from the little business up the road that turns over $1M
                      a year and makes $100K profit who no longer has a product to sell. Unless they have some "rainy day" money set aside and are
                      prepared to pay their staff (who aren't actually doing any work) then they won't last long. Even when largess exists it only lasts
                      for so long usually. Already the clubs are laying off staff, and if those staff don't have any leave entitlements then those staff are
                      walking out the door with nothing. Just the same as is happening in businesses around the country right now. My guess is the AFL
                      and the clubs will be taking out some almighty loans to try and stay afloat. Just like the government is, like businesses are, and
                      like individuals are. And lenders confidence in getting repaid won't be very high at the moment.

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                      • Ocker
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 45

                        Originally posted by barry
                        Not quite sure what you mean by the game will recover.

                        Lets play forward the idea that the AFL disolves due to bankruptcy. This will no doubt take a few clubs with it, with all us northern clubs very vunerable financially. And probably a few other clubs who are just at the wrong economic cycle to ride this out.
                        What will the new Aussie rules league look like. What teams will compete in it ?

                        Swans arent in a great position financially, even in a normal year:
                        2019: The Sydney Swans have reported a net operating loss of $509,625 for the year ending October 31, 2019. Net assets were $2,201,819.
                        Let's not forget the Swans are owned by the AFL. Hopefully our sole shareholder will keep us afloat longer than the member owned clubs that do not have a relatively strong shareholder.

                        Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk

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                        • 707
                          Veterans List
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 6204

                          Queensland has closed it's borders, NSW-Vic is the only open border left.

                          NRL's silly plan of moving all teams to Gladstone is now in disarray.

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                          • bloodspirit
                            Clubman
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 4448

                            Originally posted by 707
                            Queensland has closed it's borders, NSW-Vic is the only open border left.

                            NRL's silly plan of moving all teams to Gladstone is now in disarray.
                            Can you supply a source for your info? I don't doubt you but I'd like to look at the detail. I just checked the Queensland Govt website - Latest updates — novel coronavirus (COVID-19) | Health and wellbeing | Queensland Government - and couldn't find what you are referring to. Thanks.
                            All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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                            • stevoswan
                              Veterans List
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 8560

                              Some laughs in the face of a crisis......Titus hits the mark again.

                              The Monday Knee Jerk Reaction: AFL Round One - Titus O'Reily | Don’t have faith in yourself

                              'The Bulldogs on the other hand didn't get the memo that you're meant to work at home.

                              They turned on a performance that would have the Doggies fans glad of the shutdown.

                              The Bulldogs’ structure was so shambolic that it made a Scott Morrison media briefing seem slick and well organised."


                              "Essendon started fast because Fremantle aren’t very good, then Fremantle came back because Essendon aren’t very good, and Nat Fyfe got a nasty black eye.

                              That’s basically all you need to know; we’ve learnt that life’s too short to spend much time focusing on an Essendon-Fremantle game."


                              "The Saints were up by 31 points in the third quarter and the Roos had just one player left on the bench.

                              ‘Well it’s impossible for St Kilda to lose from here’, I foolishly exclaimed at the TV.

                              But St Kilda said ‘Sure it’s possible, we’ll show you.’

                              And they did.

                              They just basically lay down on the ground and closed their eyes. It was like a mindfulness exercise."


                              "In what was easily worst halftime entertainment ever, Gillon McLachlan announced during this game that the league was shutting down, annoyingly after the West Coast-Melbourne game and not before."


                              "The Swans also dominated up forward with Isaac Heeney booting four goals and making the Crows defenders look second rate all day.

                              Watching him run around made me really realise how much I’m going to miss the footy."

                              That last one actually hurts....this could have been the season that elevated Isaac into the 'superstar' realm.

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                              • dejavoodoo44
                                Veterans List
                                • Apr 2015
                                • 8658

                                Originally posted by stevoswan
                                Some laughs in the face of a crisis......Titus hits the mark again.

                                The Monday Knee Jerk Reaction: AFL Round One - Titus O'Reily | Don’t have faith in yourself

                                'The Bulldogs on the other hand didn't get the memo that you're meant to work at home.

                                They turned on a performance that would have the Doggies fans glad of the shutdown.

                                The Bulldogs’ structure was so shambolic that it made a Scott Morrison media briefing seem slick and well organised."


                                "Essendon started fast because Fremantle aren’t very good, then Fremantle came back because Essendon aren’t very good, and Nat Fyfe got a nasty black eye.

                                That’s basically all you need to know; we’ve learnt that life’s too short to spend much time focusing on an Essendon-Fremantle game."


                                "The Saints were up by 31 points in the third quarter and the Roos had just one player left on the bench.

                                ‘Well it’s impossible for St Kilda to lose from here’, I foolishly exclaimed at the TV.

                                But St Kilda said ‘Sure it’s possible, we’ll show you.’

                                And they did.

                                They just basically lay down on the ground and closed their eyes. It was like a mindfulness exercise."


                                "In what was easily worst halftime entertainment ever, Gillon McLachlan announced during this game that the league was shutting down, annoyingly after the West Coast-Melbourne game and not before."


                                "The Swans also dominated up forward with Isaac Heeney booting four goals and making the Crows defenders look second rate all day.

                                Watching him run around made me really realise how much I’m going to miss the footy."

                                That last one actually hurts....this could have been the season that elevated Isaac into the 'superstar' realm.
                                Yes, perhaps Gil should have tried to lighten the mood, by booking Meatloaf for a few songs?

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