What to do with no footy to watch

[dejavoodoo44]

Our fixture throwback match this week should be worth watching. It's a West Coast game; scheduled for 4.40pm on Saturday. I'm guessing that it will either be the 2005 or 2006 grand final. Hopefully the 2005. Though since I've only seen the 2006 a few times, it will probably still be an interesting exercise.

If not, there's a couple of other games from that era, that I wouldn't mind seeing again. The 2006 qualifying final (I think?), when Mickey O said hello to the crowd. Or there was a game in Perth, where we blitzed them in the first half and managed to just hold on in the second, despite a free kick count of something like 33-10: with umpire McLaren being responsible for the discrepancy. Not entirely sure why I want to relive that?

[Blood Fever]

Our fixture throwback match this week should be worth watching. It's a West Coast game; scheduled for 4.40pm on Saturday. I'm guessing that it will either be the 2005 or 2006 grand final. Hopefully the 2005. Though since I've only seen the 2006 a few times, it will probably still be an interesting exercise.

If not, there's a couple of other games from that era, that I wouldn't mind seeing again. The 2006 qualifying final (I think?), when Mickey O said hello to the crowd. Or there was a game in Perth, where we blitzed them in the first half and managed to just hold on in the second, despite a free kick count of something like 33-10: with umpire McLaren being responsible for the discrepancy. Not entirely sure why I want to relive that?

I still get angry at the umpire watching old games that we won. Do we share a Swans persecution complex?

[dejavoodoo44]

I still get angry at the umpire watching old games that we won. Do we share a Swans persecution complex?

I think that in the case of McLaren, it's perfectly justified. And Stevic. Though my shouting at the TV, when watching a ten year old game, is probably even more pointless, than shouting at a live telecast.

[Doctor J.]

I think that in the case of McLaren, it's perfectly justified. And Stevic. Though my shouting at the TV, when watching a ten year old game, is probably even more pointless, than shouting at a live telecast.

2016 Stevic, Meredith, Jefferey. Never forgive. Never forget.

[dejavoodoo44]

2016 Stevic, Meredith, Jefferey. Never forgive. Never forget.

Yes, lately I've been watching the winning games that I recorded in 2016. I'm up to the hard fought round 22 win over North. Three more wins to go, before deciding whether to have another attempt at watching the 2016 GF. I tried a couple of times in the past, but never got much past halftime.

One thing that I've been reminded of, watching those games, was just how good Dan Hannebery was back then. Such a shame that he never really recovered, from being taken out by an illegal slide; after the umpires decided to throw that rule away in the GF.

[Blood Fever]

Yes, lately I've been watching the winning games that I recorded in 2016. I'm up to the hard fought round 22 win over North. Three more wins to go, before deciding whether to have another attempt at watching the 2016 GF. I tried a couple of times in the past, but never got much past halftime.

One thing that I've been reminded of, watching those games, was just how good Dan Hannebery was back then. Such a shame that he never really recovered, from being taken out by an illegal slide; after the umpires decided to throw that rule away in the GF.

Agree. Just about every old game that I watch, including finals, Hanneberry has been sensational.

[stevoswan]

Yes, lately I've been watching the winning games that I recorded in 2016. I'm up to the hard fought round 22 win over North. Three more wins to go, before deciding whether to have another attempt at watching the 2016 GF. I tried a couple of times in the past, but never got much past halftime.

One thing that I've been reminded of, watching those games, was just how good Dan Hannebery was back then. Such a shame that he never really recovered, from being taken out by an illegal slide; after the umpires decided to throw that rule away in the GF.

Let's face it.....they threw the entire rule book out that day. There was only ever going to be one result and it was set in stone before the game even started.....and the whole footy world knows it but most appear to be quite comfortable with the corruption they witnessed.

[Legs Akimbo]

Let's face it.....they threw the entire rule book out that day. There was only ever going to be one result and it was set in stone before the game even started.....and the whole footy world knows it but most appear to be quite comfortable with the corruption they witnessed.

It is an indelible stain on my memory. Like collective madness that we were on the wrong side of. 2012 is the magic that balances it.

[dejavoodoo44]

It is an indelible stain on my memory. Like collective madness that we were on the wrong side of. 2012 is the magic that balances it.

Yes, being on the wrong side of collective madness, is a good term. Like watching a Trump interview and realising that there's many people, who think that he's being totally honest.

[dejavoodoo44]

Let's face it.....they threw the entire rule book out that day. There was only ever going to be one result and it was set in stone before the game even started.....and the whole footy world knows it but most appear to be quite comfortable with the corruption they witnessed.

I tend to view it more as conformity, rather than corruption. That is, the local Melbourne umpires, being conditioned by the rest of Melbourne hoping for a Dogs fairytale. Below is a reenactment one of the more famous experiments in psychology; the Asch experiment. It more or less explains my thinking.

Asch Conformity Experiment - YouTube

By the way, the guy doing the intro, was responsible for one of most notorious experiments in psychology; the Stanford prison experiment.

[bodgie]

I finally plucked up the courage to watch the 2016 final, thanks for the Kayo tip. It was hard work. What struck me was in the last quarter how Bontompelli and Stringer lifted and kept coming hard. We didn't have an answer for that. Franklin limited to a link up role and a criminally curtailed Hannebury hampered us somewhat. Oh so close if a few calls and a few basic shots on goal went our way.

[Sandridge]

2016 Stevic, Meredith, Jefferey. Never forgive. Never forget.

Absolutely, Doctor! And it wasn't just us who got shafted in that final series. The umpires gifted them a win over GWS in the Preliminary Final! The Fairypuppies shouldn't have even been there on Grand Final Day.
Never forget, too, that they couldn't even make finals in 2017 and 2018.

[Blood Fever]

I tend to view it more as conformity, rather than corruption. That is, the local Melbourne umpires, being conditioned by the rest of Melbourne hoping for a Dogs fairytale. Below is a reenactment one of the more famous experiments in psychology; the Asch experiment. It more or less explains my thinking.

Asch Conformity Experiment - YouTube

By the way, the guy doing the intro, was responsible for one of most notorious experiments in psychology; the Stanford prison experiment.

Thanks DV. Reckons this happens in politics and the culture wars a lot these days.. A lot less judging every case on its merits. Definitely at play in 2016 GF.

[barry]

This study of soccer suggests a 0.4 goal advantage caused by referees being influenced by the crowd.

Officiating Bias, Influenced By Crowds, Affects Home Field Advantage -- ScienceDaily

A 0.4 goal difference in soccer would be about a 20-30 point advantage in AFL.

[Markwebbos]

Let's face it.....they threw the entire rule book out that day. There was only ever going to be one result and it was set in stone before the game even started.....and the whole footy world knows it but most appear to be quite comfortable with the corruption they witnessed.

They might have told me BEFORE I spent a significant chunk of $$ on a heartbreaking trip to Melbourne.