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  • goswannies
    Senior Player
    • Sep 2007
    • 3049

    Swans chat Updated Swans Team of the Century?

    In 2003 the Swans named their Team of the Century:

    B: John Rantall, John Heriot, Vic Belcher
    H/B: Bill Faul, Ron Clegg, Dennis Carroll
    C: David Murphy, Greg Williams, Herb Matthews
    H/F: Tony Morwood, Laurie Nash, Gerard Healy
    F: Bob Pratt, Tony Lockett, Paul Kelly (vc)
    Foll: Barry Round, Peter Bedford, Bob Skilton (c)
    Inter: Bill Williams, Stevie Wright, Daryn Cresswell, Fred Goldsmith, Mark Bayes, Harry Clarke, Mark Tandy
    Coach: Jack Bissett

    17 years on, with a number of newly minted champions, how would the best Swans Team of 117 years look?

    Who would come in? Who would drop out?

    I know it’s hard to compare eras, so here are some stats on the current TotC On This Day: Team of the Century named

    If we can come up with a consensus, I’d love to see how our absolute best of all time would stack up against other clubs’ TotC’s (admittedly we would have an extra 17 years (ie Buddy ) but hey, this is RWO, we deserve it!
  • Captain
    Captain of the Side
    • Feb 2004
    • 3602

    #2
    I would bring in Barry Hall, Adam Goodes, Micky O, Ryan O’Keefe, Jude Bolton, Josh Kennedy and Brett Kirk. Paul Roos to be coach.

    Am tempted to say Nick Davis based on that one quarter in 05 ????

    Buddy wouldn’t get a start in my team (assuming we are just basing this on time at Swans).

    Outs would be all those on the bench.

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    • Blood Fever
      Veterans List
      • Apr 2007
      • 4043

      #3
      Originally posted by Captain
      I would bring in Barry Hall, Adam Goodes, Micky O, Ryan O’Keefe, Jude Bolton, Josh Kennedy and Brett Kirk. Paul Roos to be coach.

      Am tempted to say Nick Davis based on that one quarter in 05 ????

      Buddy wouldn’t get a start in my team (assuming we are just basing this on time at Swans).

      Outs would be all those on the bench.
      Agree with your ins except for Jude who would be one of the first picked in the most courageous Swans category.

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      • Captain
        Captain of the Side
        • Feb 2004
        • 3602

        #4
        Originally posted by Blood Fever
        Agree with your ins except for Jude who would be one of the first picked in the most courageous Swans category.
        2 premierships and 325 games (equal 2nd on all time list). Deserves a spot over Cresswell (who I love).

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        • Blood Fever
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2007
          • 4043

          #5
          Originally posted by Captain
          2 premierships and 325 games (equal 2nd on all time list). Deserves a spot over Cresswell (who I love).
          Fair point. If you brought in the 6 players you mentioned minus Jude, the 6 I would leave out of the original and they were all very good players are: Carroll, Murphy, Morwood, B.Williams, Wright and Cresswell. Not sure where that leaves team balance if it's required.

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          • Ralph Dawg
            Senior Player
            • Apr 2018
            • 1729

            #6
            What about a team of the 2000's?
            B Rampe Richards Grundy
            HB Malceski Barry McVeigh
            C Goodes Parker Hannerbury
            HF J Bolton Franklin Heeney
            F O'Loughlin Hall Papley
            Foll Jolly Kennedy Kirk
            Int Jack ROK Williams LRT

            I'm thinking of the guys who played mostly in the 2000's. Guys like Kelly, Cresswell, Maxfield and even Plugger technically all played in the 2000's but I see them more as 1990's stars.

            On LRT, not naturally gifted but could play tall positions all over the park and always gave 110%, was rarely beaten.

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            • Blood Fever
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 4043

              #7
              Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
              What about a team of the 2000's?
              B Rampe Richards Grundy
              HB Malceski Barry McVeigh
              C Goodes Parker Hannerbury
              HF J Bolton Franklin Heeney
              F O'Loughlin Hall Papley
              Foll Jolly Kennedy Kirk
              Int Jack ROK Williams LRT

              I'm thinking of the guys who played mostly in the 2000's. Guys like Kelly, Cresswell, Maxfield and even Plugger technically all played in the 2000's but I see them more as 1990's stars.

              On LRT, not naturally gifted but could play tall positions all over the park and always gave 110%, was rarely beaten.
              Great line up! Agree on LRT Big time competitor and great finals player One of the first picked. I'd give serious consideration to Crouch. Awarded best finals player in 2005.

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              • Ralph Dawg
                Senior Player
                • Apr 2018
                • 1729

                #8
                Originally posted by Blood Fever
                Great line up! Agree on LRT Big time competitor and great finals player One of the first picked. I'd give serious consideration to Crouch. Awarded best finals player in 2005.
                Crouch was awesome. A real competitor, amazing turn of speed and tough. Loved how he used to drive Aker to insanity. Just out of interest, Crouch or Nick Smith? I'd give it to smooch but only just.

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                • Captain
                  Captain of the Side
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 3602

                  #9
                  I would bring in Nick Smith, Craig Bolton, Jason Ball, Nick Davis and Tadhg Kennelly.

                  Barry Richards Smith
                  Kennelly C Bolton McVeigh
                  Hannebery Kennedy Goodes
                  O’Laughlin Franklin O’Keefe
                  Davis Hall Jack
                  Ball J Bolton Kirk
                  Williams LRT Parker Grundy
                  Emer: Jetta, Heeney, Crouch, Jolly

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                  • Ralph Dawg
                    Senior Player
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 1729

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Captain
                    I would bring in Nick Smith, Craig Bolton, Jason Ball, Nick Davis and Tadhg Kennelly.

                    Barry Richards Smith
                    Kennelly C Bolton McVeigh
                    Hannebery Kennedy Goodes
                    O’Laughlin Franklin O’Keefe
                    Davis Hall Jack
                    Ball J Bolton Kirk
                    Williams LRT Parker Grundy
                    Emer: Jetta, Heeney, Crouch, Jolly
                    Kennelly v Malceski? Kennelly tough, could play tall or small. Malceski had that left boot and dash, especially pre ACL. C Bolton would have to be one of the bravest KPD, remember him playing and beating guys like Jon Brown who were taller and heavier.
                    Good side Captain.

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                    • Aprilbr
                      Senior Player
                      • Oct 2016
                      • 1803

                      #11
                      We really have had some amazing players over the 20 years of this decade! I always think that players of yester-year can be easily forgotten or under-rated because we never saw them play and there is little available footage of their feats. Hence, I would be reluctant to omit any of the greats from the early 1900s or the 1930s.

                      However, some of those loyal servants from the 1980s and 1990s like Wright, Hayes and Carrol are not in the same league as players like Goodes, Hall, Micky O and Buddy.

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                      • Blood Fever
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 4043

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Aprilbr
                        We really have had some amazing players over the 20 years of this decade! I always think that players of yester-year can be easily forgotten or under-rated because we never saw them play and there is little available footage of their feats. Hence, I would be reluctant to omit any of the greats from the early 1900s or the 1930s.

                        However, some of those loyal servants from the 1980s and 1990s like Wright, Hayes and Carrol are not in the same league as players like Goodes, Hall, Micky O and Buddy.

                        Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk
                        Bit harsh on Bayes I reckon

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                        Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                        Crouch was awesome. A real competitor, amazing turn of speed and tough. Loved how he used to drive Aker to insanity. Just out of interest, Crouch or Nick Smith? I'd give it to smooch but only just.
                        I'd probably just give it to Crouch because he had to run all day with the likes of Judd, Kerr, Aker etc and got a fair bit of the ball himself. Close call.

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                        • dejavoodoo44
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                          • Apr 2015
                          • 8578

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                          Crouch was awesome. A real competitor, amazing turn of speed and tough. Loved how he used to drive Aker to insanity. Just out of interest, Crouch or Nick Smith? I'd give it to smooch but only just.
                          I used to love the job that Crouch always did on Akermanis. In fact, I would sometimes entertain myself, with thoughts of the tag starting well before game time. As in; Akermanis trying to catch a cab, Crouch jumping in before him. Akermanis attempting to eat dinner, Crouch knocking the cutlery out of his hands.

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                          • dejavoodoo44
                            Veterans List
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 8578

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                            Kennelly v Malceski? Kennelly tough, could play tall or small. Malceski had that left boot and dash, especially pre ACL. C Bolton would have to be one of the bravest KPD, remember him playing and beating guys like Jon Brown who were taller and heavier.
                            Good side Captain.
                            Would definitely go for Kennelly. While Malceski was the better kick, Kennelly was a more damaging runner and a tougher defender. It always seemed to me, that he really hated his opponents getting the ball: especially if it led to a goal.

                            Though if I remember rightly, one thing that used to frustrate me, even though their careers overlapped, they were rarely on the field together. One would get injured, then when they got back on the field, the other one would soon limp off.

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                            • Nico
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 11337

                              #15
                              Originally posted by goswannies
                              In 2003 the Swans named their Team of the Century:

                              B: John Rantall, John Heriot, Vic Belcher
                              H/B: Bill Faul, Ron Clegg, Dennis Carroll
                              C: David Murphy, Greg Williams, Herb Matthews
                              H/F: Tony Morwood, Laurie Nash, Gerard Healy
                              F: Bob Pratt, Tony Lockett, Paul Kelly (vc)
                              Foll: Barry Round, Peter Bedford, Bob Skilton (c)
                              Inter: Bill Williams, Stevie Wright, Daryn Cresswell, Fred Goldsmith, Mark Bayes, Harry Clarke, Mark Tandy
                              Coach: Jack Bissett

                              17 years on, with a number of newly minted champions, how would the best Swans Team of 117 years look?

                              Who would come in? Who would drop out?

                              I know it’s hard to compare eras, so here are some stats on the current TotC On This Day: Team of the Century named

                              If we can come up with a consensus, I’d love to see how our absolute best of all time would stack up against other clubs’ TotC’s (admittedly we would have an extra 17 years (ie Buddy ) but hey, this is RWO, we deserve it!
                              I would leave out Carroll and Wright. Carroll was very over rated. A good club man (probably why he got a gig) but just a good average footballer. Good kick but as loose as granny's teeth. Steve Wright was an average rover who rarely played well against good sides. Don't know how they could have Heriot before Goldsmith who won a Brownlow at full back. Heriot was ok but just another average footballer who was no good anywhere else on the ground.
                              http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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