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  • mcs
    Travelling Swannie!!
    • Jul 2007
    • 8177

    #16
    Originally posted by barry
    "Those eligible for the ballot are Bloods 2020 11-game members who have elected to pledge 100% of their membership subscription fee in 2020."

    This sits uneasy with me. Its basically rewards those that didnt lose their jobs or business. And I cant recall anywhere where it said if you pledge 100%, you will get first access to being in the crowd, when the survey went out.

    What about a special "JobKeeper/Seeker" round. All members on those scheme's get in. ?
    Unless things have changed in recent years, I wonder how one would know what was said at the time if one wasn't a member of the club? Hopefully things have changed from arguments in this space previously and that comment is now spurious - but I have my suspicions it probably is not.

    It was made pretty clear there would be additional benefits to that group of members that chose to pledge their 100%. There was no understanding at that stage that there was any likelihood of a very limited crowd scenario at all however - so its a bit harsh to criticise on that basis when at that point in time, no one had any idea what the next few months would look like. Indeed, if footy would even be back at all, let alone some form of limited crowd attendance requiring ballots.

    I know of at least 4 different people that I know who are members of AFL clubs that have lost their jobs as such and had to rely on job keeper/seeker in some form, yet every single one of them has kept their memberships for their respective clubs (only 1 of those 4 are swans members). It may appear on paper to be a luxury item, but for many they'll be 6 foot under before they give their membership to their footy club - even if it means giving up other things in the process.
    "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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    • Meg
      Go Swannies!
      Site Admin
      • Aug 2011
      • 4828

      #17
      Originally posted by Captain
      Anyone know when the winners of the ballot are notified?
      ‘Ballot registrations close 8pm AEST Sunday June 21. Members will be selected at random and SUCCESSFUL registrants will be contacted by email on Tuesday, June 23.’

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      • barry
        Veterans List
        • Jan 2003
        • 8499

        #18
        Originally posted by mcs
        It was made pretty clear there would be additional benefits to that group of members that chose to pledge their 100%.
        What was the clear message from the club?

        Covid lockdown has had a disproportionate impact on some people compared to others. Some have thrived, some have suffered.
        Some people may think they deserve it more, but when you've lost everything else, some people need it more.

        Odd comment about the guy on jobkeeper keeping 100%. Basically, the government is paying for his membership. Lol.

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        • Captain
          Captain of the Side
          • Feb 2004
          • 3602

          #19
          Originally posted by Meg
          ‘Ballot registrations close 8pm AEST Sunday June 21. Members will be selected at random and SUCCESSFUL registrants will be contacted by email on Tuesday, June 23.’
          Thanks!

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          • giant
            Veterans List
            • Mar 2005
            • 4731

            #20
            Originally posted by Markwebbos
            I half agree with you Barry as the rule does favour those with more $ ... but at the same time, that money is being used to pay for a membership which entitles people to go to home games. So if you stop paying, you have potentially reduced your right to go.

            I'm in the ballot. I presume that the numbers involved will be very low again. I'm also assuming that as the number permitted to go to games grows, the criteria will widen and they'll offer access to members who were not able to maintain 100% payment.

            Out of interest, are there many on here that have been forced or chosen not to maintain the 100% to the club?
            I went the 60% option (ie, got 40% refunded) on the basis that I assumed there would be little football and that a fair swag of the club's costs must be variable per match day. I have no issue with those who contributed 100% getting first dibs; entirely appropriate from my perspective.

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            • mcs
              Travelling Swannie!!
              • Jul 2007
              • 8177

              #21
              Originally posted by barry
              What was the clear message from the club?

              Covid lockdown has had a disproportionate impact on some people compared to others. Some have thrived, some have suffered.
              Some people may think they deserve it more, but when you've lost everything else, some people need it more.

              Odd comment about the guy on jobkeeper keeping 100%. Basically, the government is paying for his membership. Lol.
              Well one thing is clear then - as I suspected, you aren't a member of the club. So I find it astounding your willing to make such detailed comments on the approach of the club on this matter when it doesn't impact you one iota.

              There was nothing odd about mentioning that several people I know chose to not seek a refund on their membership. Funnily enough:

              1) not everyone pays by the month (i.e. many still pay in advance) - perhaps they don't do upfront payments for ANZ Stadium memberships anymore?

              2) its their money to spend as they please. Where it comes from is neither your mine business.

              And all of those examples the people involved have been substantially impacted by the covid-19 fallout. It doesn't mean they aren't allowed to prioritise what funds they have and spend them as they see fit. Or do you think holding a footy membership should be banned for someone that has to rely on Government in any form?
              "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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              • barry
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2003
                • 8499

                #22
                Here we go again. I'm genuinely interested in "What was the clear message from the club"?

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                • mcs
                  Travelling Swannie!!
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 8177

                  #23
                  Originally posted by barry
                  Here we go again. I'm genuinely interested in "What was the clear message from the club"?
                  I do not have the message in my inbox anymore - but as I said earlier, it was made very clear that there would be additional benefits provided to those who did choose to pledge their membership amount irrespective of whether football came back or not this season. As I said, that fact was made very clear upfront - beyond saying that, I do nott know how they were meant to predict what footy would look like when it came back, and hence what said benefits may be should they come to fruition beyond those basic things they were doing during lockdown (extra videos, messages and other random stuff).

                  But as always, you seem to have a crystal ball on how everything should be....
                  "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                  • barry
                    Veterans List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 8499

                    #24
                    As usual, you've got nothing. That's why I don't engage with you.

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                    • mcs
                      Travelling Swannie!!
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 8177

                      #25
                      Originally posted by barry
                      As usual, you've got nothing. That's why I don't engage with you.
                      Well stop replying and @@@@ off then.
                      "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                      • Captain
                        Captain of the Side
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 3602

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Mel_C
                        Was anyone on here lucky to get a ticket?
                        Yep got ours today. Excited!!!

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                        • mcs
                          Travelling Swannie!!
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 8177

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Captain
                          Yep got ours today. Excited!!!
                          Awesome - glad to hear some of the RWO will get the chance to go along and cheer Hope the weather is good as I think it could be a pretty good game on Thursday.
                          "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                          • barry
                            Veterans List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 8499

                            #28
                            Originally posted by mcs
                            I do not have the message in my inbox anymore -
                            Deleting swans email = not a real fan.


                            Ok, now I'm @@@@ stiring. Lol.

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                            • jono2707
                              Goes up to 11
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 3326

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Captain
                              Yep got ours today. Excited!!!
                              Congratulations. It'll be good to hear about the experience.

                              (And I think we should stick to the topic at hand and ignore that poster who has again tried to make another thread all about themselves).

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                              • KTigers
                                Senior Player
                                • Apr 2012
                                • 2499

                                #30
                                I can see why the club has run the ballot to get tickets the way they have. I got tickets and am looking forward to it,
                                especially after last week. Should be an interesting experience. Hope they have free beer too, but I'm not counting
                                on it.

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