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  • bloodspirit
    Clubman
    • Apr 2015
    • 4448

    Thanks barracuda. Great report and excellent to have it.

    I wonder if Wicks could be adapted to play a lockdown small defender role given his ability to win the contested ball and his tackling? Do you think there's enough overlap in skillsets? Could he become the next Smooch, barra?
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    • barracuda
      Regular in the Side
      • Jun 2016
      • 551

      Originally posted by bloodspirit
      Thanks barracuda. Great report and excellent to have it.

      I wonder if Wicks could be adapted to play a lockdown small defender role given his ability to win the contested ball and his tackling? Do you think there's enough overlap in skillsets? Could he become the next Smooch, barra?
      Was a very good defender in his juniors from what I know

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      • MattW
        Veterans List
        • May 2011
        • 4231

        And here are Laidler's views on selected players, including Ling.


        Laidler sees promise but room to improve

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        • troyjones2525
          Swans Fanatic!
          • Mar 2008
          • 2908

          Originally posted by barracuda
          Having the benefit of the video of the game against hawthorn my observations would be:

          1. Will Gould; best game he has played for the swans against quality opposition. Looks to have taken the next step. Lots of good positioning, level headed, good drive forward and plenty of touches
          2. Zac Foote; really pushing for senior selection. Endless run matched with good head over the ball attack. Still fine tuning his use of the ball, but is definitely ready for a run in the seniors.
          3. Jack Maibaum; Smart defender, with some strong intercept marking. Also looking ready to step up
          4. Jammes Bell; Has now developed in to a strong body able to withstand the rigours. Used the ball very well and generally either won the midfield or squared it.

          These were the best four. Next was probably Wicks who got plenty of ball and laid a ton of tackles. Some of his ball use could have been better. If so would have got more than 2 goals. However he is a real competitor around congested traffic and is very hard to beat one on one. Ling was pretty good when he was on as was Gray and Thurlow. McIneney was interesting. He can find the ball but is not strong in the tackle. He gets taken to ground very easily rather than standing up in the tackle and disposing of the ball. Rowles started to find the ball, however his use is atrocious. Actually a bit of a problem.

          Overall Hawthorn would have beaten the swans by 5-10 goals. It should be noted though Hawthorn was providing 3 or more players to the swans including the ruckman, so the score is not that useful.

          My overall observation is that players need to be played in the correct positions. For example:

          Zac Foote is an awesome running wingman. As a midfielder or small forward, not so good.
          Jammes Bell is a very good inside mid, and a handy high forward
          Justin McInerney is a good running wingman but the body strength to be a midfielder is absent, and is not much good playing forward
          Wicks is a strong inside mid and a good small forward
          Barry Connor ain't no ruckman!

          It was really clear when these players were played out of position the impact on the team. In the midfield you could almost count on the clearance being squared or won with bell and or wicks in there. With McInerney especially you could almost count on it being lost. This is noting that Gray in particular is purely an outside mid and will not engage in the body contest to win the ball.

          Next week:

          If the seniors need backmen go for Gould or Maibaum. Gould tends to stay a bit deeper. Maibaum a bit higher.
          If an inside mid is needed go for Bell
          If a small kieran jack type forward/mid go for wicks
          If a hard running wingman is needed go for foote.

          What I hope doesn't happen is they pick the best performing player from the scratch match and play him out of position in the seniors.
          Loving your insights Barra and totally agree with you regarding us needing to play these young guys in their best positions! Unfortunately more often than not when they play seniors they don't and the results seem to speak for themselves! Horse needs to back these kids more! Yes they will struggle at times but at least they will hopefully show enough to let us know if they are worth persisting with at the highest level!

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          • Puppy Eyes
            Pushing for Selection
            • Apr 2009
            • 85

            Anything happen yesterday?

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            • troyjones2525
              Swans Fanatic!
              • Mar 2008
              • 2908

              Any updates on a scratch match last weekend Barra?

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              • barracuda
                Regular in the Side
                • Jun 2016
                • 551

                Originally posted by troyjones2525
                Any updates on a scratch match last weekend Barra?

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                No scratch match. This week GWS again

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                • troyjones2525
                  Swans Fanatic!
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 2908

                  Originally posted by barracuda
                  No scratch match. This week GWS again
                  Damn! Thanks for letting us know!

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                  • ugg
                    Can you feel it?
                    Site Admin
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 15976

                    Looks like the scratch match is on now

                    Can see Amartey, Foot, Maibaum, McInerney, O'Connor, Reynolds, Rowles, Warner, Wicks in the short clip.


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                    • Aaron
                      Regular in the Side
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 805

                      Laidler Report :
                      https://www.sydneyswans.com.au/video/786153/laidler-we-cracked-in-for-the-whole-60-minutes?videoId=786153&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1596178596001

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                      • MattW
                        Veterans List
                        • May 2011
                        • 4231

                        The social media team is doing its best, but we didn't get a whole lot of detail from Laidler there.

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                        • Melbourne_Blood
                          Senior Player
                          • May 2010
                          • 3312

                          Originally posted by MattW
                          The social media team is doing its best, but we didn't get a whole lot of detail from Laidler there.
                          Not as much as we’d like but more than they were offering before you gave them a nudge !

                          Good that they incorporated some fan questions from Twitter.

                          Sounds as though Gould is pretty close, considering who has debuted already he seems a little stiff to have not gotten a call up yet.

                          Surprised to hear Harry Reynolds name mentioned , for some reason I though he was long gone from our list.

                          Sounds as though Amartey may get a look soon too, and Wicks.


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                          • dazedjosh
                            Pushing for Selection
                            • Nov 2019
                            • 62

                            Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
                            Not as much as we’d like but more than they were offering before you gave them a nudge !

                            Good that they incorporated some fan questions from Twitter.
                            Considering how little the Swans used to talk, a 3 and a half minute video is a flood of information! A weekly update like this isn't bad though. I also liked that they added some Twitter questions about players, thought that was a nice touch.

                            I definitely agree on Amartey, I think he might get a run in the next few weeks if we decide to rest a couple of big guys. Sounds like they're being patient with Gould, I like how they're rotating him against small forwards and tall forwards so he gets a good spread of opponents to develop against, it might mean he takes a little longer to debut, but long term it should stand him in good stead.

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                            • Scottee
                              Senior Player
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 1585

                              Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
                              Not as much as we’d like but more than they were offering before you gave them a nudge !

                              Good that they incorporated some fan questions from Twitter.

                              Sounds as though Gould is pretty close, considering who has debuted already he seems a little stiff to have not gotten a call up yet.

                              Surprised to hear Harry Reynolds name mentioned , for some reason I though he was long gone from our list.

                              Sounds as though Amartey may get a look soon too, and Wicks.


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                              Great to see that the communication has been ramped up by the club.

                              On Harry Reynolds, he's a real dasher with a lot of potential and a bit of size. Its only some injuries and his youth have held him back.

                              If he stays fit I predict he will be a senior player.

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                              We have them where we want them, everything is going according to plan!

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                              • ugg
                                Can you feel it?
                                Site Admin
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 15976

                                Scratch match against the Pies right now. Tweets from Collingwood's Performance and Strategy Manager.

                                From the photo - Gould on Cox, O'Connor on Cameron, Amartey in the ruck, Blakey and Clarke in the middle. Gray in the forwards. Looks like Pies have lent us a player judging by the defender in red top and black shorts.


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