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  • jono2707
    Goes up to 11
    • Oct 2007
    • 3326

    #31
    Originally posted by MattW
    Ok, here's the Swans focussed report: Swans consistent performance.

    Just two players mentioned in the Laidler quotes, but it's good news:

    “Dylan Stephens and James Bell were two players that really competed all day with their hardness.”
    That was a complete shocker of a match report. I'll be getting in touch with the club and asking them to do another one. We all know they're down in numbers behind the scenes but the report was absolutely pathetic.

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    • MattW
      Veterans List
      • May 2011
      • 4232

      #32
      Originally posted by jono2707
      That was a complete shocker of a match report. I'll be getting in touch with the club and asking them to do another one. We all know they're down in numbers behind the scenes but the report was absolutely pathetic.
      Thanks for writing to the club.

      It's on Laidler, I think. That GWS report is essentially a series of quotes from the development coach.

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      • Mr Magoo
        Senior Player
        • May 2008
        • 1255

        #33
        Originally posted by jono2707
        That was a complete shocker of a match report. I'll be getting in touch with the club and asking them to do another one. We all know they're down in numbers behind the scenes but the report was absolutely pathetic.
        I always feel like you have to read between the lines on reports like that. You could take it that what they were really saying is that no one really pushed for senior selection and Stephens and Bell were hard at it without being absolute standouts.

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        • barracuda
          Regular in the Side
          • Jun 2016
          • 551

          #34
          Ok here is my match report
          Game was played in 8x7.5 minute periods.

          Overall my best players were: Stephens, Bell, Wicks, Armatey, Warner. Goal kickers Warner 3, Stoddart, Bell, Taylor, Stephens. Swans won 7 goals to 6.

          Stephens: Wow can he find the ball, and he is tough. Great clearance work and running. There is a pretty big development area and that is disposal by foot. He seems to be tentative with passing resulting in endless missed kicks, turnovers and resulting goals to gws. he often brought some great linkage play to a standstill by miss kicks. Going to be a gun when he gets a bit more kicking confidence, and was best for the swans.

          Bell: Lots of hard work and body work. Solid game

          Wicks: In midfield and forward. Super clean by hand and foot, set up a number of goals. Lots of tackling pressure inside 50 including two holding the ball decisions that resulted in goal assists.

          Armatey, Rucked most of the game against Jacobs. Held him ok which was well done. When Connor took over the ruck duties sauce really killed him. Armatey was a little quiet around the ground but had his hands full in the ruck.

          Warner: strong and alert to any opportunity. He kicked three, with a couple finishing off some nice linkages. He also suffers from poor disposal by foot, missing targets, but definitely looks the goods.

          Stoddart: Played well and what he did was clean and purposeful. Some nice clean marking with good ball movement.

          Foote: Not quite as good as last week, however he provided some good running from half back and wing, and the 6 or 7 touches he got were solid with good run and spread.

          Taylor: Played well but missed a number of tackles he should have made. One thing about him though, his disposal is excellent. He created a couple of goals through accurate passing into the forward line.

          The following players were quiet or did not press for selection in the seniors. Fox, did a few nice things but not enough. Thurlow just looks disinterested. Maibaum ok but not much. Ling not much. Connor was quiet. He really got dominated by jacobs when in the ruck. Jacobs was getting perfect uncontested taps. Elijah was quiet. Gould struggled. His disposal was poor, and other than a great run in the dying minutes that resulted in a goal he was quiet.

          What was really apparent is how poor the first years dispose by foot. I guess they need a couple of seasons to get that right.

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          • Captain
            Captain of the Side
            • Feb 2004
            • 3602

            #35
            Thanks for the match report!

            There doesn't seem to be a lot of positives and it is far from ideal that Stephens and Warner had poor disposal. If they struggle in a scratch match, imagine how they will go in an AFL game!

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            • MattW
              Veterans List
              • May 2011
              • 4232

              #36
              Originally posted by barracuda
              Ok here is my match report
              Game was played in 8x7.5 minute periods.

              Overall my best players were: Stephens, Bell, Wicks, Armatey, Warner. Goal kickers Warner 3, Stoddart, Bell, Taylor, Stephens. Swans won 7 goals to 6.

              Stephens: Wow can he find the ball, and he is tough. Great clearance work and running. There is a pretty big development area and that is disposal by foot. He seems to be tentative with passing resulting in endless missed kicks, turnovers and resulting goals to gws. he often brought some great linkage play to a standstill by miss kicks. Going to be a gun when he gets a bit more kicking confidence, and was best for the swans.

              Bell: Lots of hard work and body work. Solid game

              Wicks: In midfield and forward. Super clean by hand and foot, set up a number of goals. Lots of tackling pressure inside 50 including two holding the ball decisions that resulted in goal assists.

              Armatey, Rucked most of the game against Jacobs. Held him ok which was well done. When Connor took over the ruck duties sauce really killed him. Armatey was a little quiet around the ground but had his hands full in the ruck.

              Warner: strong and alert to any opportunity. He kicked three, with a couple finishing off some nice linkages. He also suffers from poor disposal by foot, missing targets, but definitely looks the goods.

              Stoddart: Played well and what he did was clean and purposeful. Some nice clean marking with good ball movement.

              Foote: Not quite as good as last week, however he provided some good running from half back and wing, and the 6 or 7 touches he got were solid with good run and spread.

              Taylor: Played well but missed a number of tackles he should have made. One thing about him though, his disposal is excellent. He created a couple of goals through accurate passing into the forward line.

              The following players were quiet or did not press for selection in the seniors. Fox, did a few nice things but not enough. Thurlow just looks disinterested. Maibaum ok but not much. Ling not much. Connor was quiet. He really got dominated by jacobs when in the ruck. Jacobs was getting perfect uncontested taps. Elijah was quiet. Gould struggled. His disposal was poor, and other than a great run in the dying minutes that resulted in a goal he was quiet.

              What was really apparent is how poor the first years dispose by foot. I guess they need a couple of seasons to get that right.
              So good, thanks barracuda.

              I wonder whether Amartey is a chance to come in to ruck this week, allowing Aliir to play back, avoiding the need to replace Melican, noting the absence of tall defenders fit and in form.

              I'd also love to see Stoddart in for O'Riordan and Warner for Gray.

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              • dimelb
                pr. dim-melb; m not f
                • Jun 2003
                • 6889

                #37
                Thanks barracuda. So much better than the club drivel, with no scores and not even who won!
                There sounds like some possibles in the 2s. Glad to see Bell working hard.
                He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                • Mr Magoo
                  Senior Player
                  • May 2008
                  • 1255

                  #38
                  I remember the days (not that long ago) when some first/2nd year players would be getting forty plus disposals in the NEAFL and not getting a call up . To be considering anyone from that report other than through necessity does not really scream "earn your spot".

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                  • Scottee
                    Senior Player
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 1585

                    #39
                    Originally posted by 707
                    Not very hard! I don't care how few people are currently in our media department, it takes 10 minutes for someone, probably Laidler, to add a playing list and a couple of notes on who played where.

                    U8's motherhood reporting of "pleased everyone had a dip" type stuff tells you nothing. Doesn't help us advise the MC via RWO on what changes we want in the senior team this week :-)
                    LOL[emoji23]

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                    • Scottee
                      Senior Player
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 1585

                      #40
                      Originally posted by barracuda
                      Ok here is my match report
                      Game was played in 8x7.5 minute periods.

                      Overall my best players were: Stephens, Bell, Wicks, Armatey, Warner. Goal kickers Warner 3, Stoddart, Bell, Taylor, Stephens. Swans won 7 goals to 6.

                      Stephens: Wow can he find the ball, and he is tough. Great clearance work and running. There is a pretty big development area and that is disposal by foot. He seems to be tentative with passing resulting in endless missed kicks, turnovers and resulting goals to gws. he often brought some great linkage play to a standstill by miss kicks. Going to be a gun when he gets a bit more kicking confidence, and was best for the swans.

                      Bell: Lots of hard work and body work. Solid game

                      Wicks: In midfield and forward. Super clean by hand and foot, set up a number of goals. Lots of tackling pressure inside 50 including two holding the ball decisions that resulted in goal assists.

                      Armatey, Rucked most of the game against Jacobs. Held him ok which was well done. When Connor took over the ruck duties sauce really killed him. Armatey was a little quiet around the ground but had his hands full in the ruck.

                      Warner: strong and alert to any opportunity. He kicked three, with a couple finishing off some nice linkages. He also suffers from poor disposal by foot, missing targets, but definitely looks the goods.

                      Stoddart: Played well and what he did was clean and purposeful. Some nice clean marking with good ball movement.

                      Foote: Not quite as good as last week, however he provided some good running from half back and wing, and the 6 or 7 touches he got were solid with good run and spread.

                      Taylor: Played well but missed a number of tackles he should have made. One thing about him though, his disposal is excellent. He created a couple of goals through accurate passing into the forward line.

                      The following players were quiet or did not press for selection in the seniors. Fox, did a few nice things but not enough. Thurlow just looks disinterested. Maibaum ok but not much. Ling not much. Connor was quiet. He really got dominated by jacobs when in the ruck. Jacobs was getting perfect uncontested taps. Elijah was quiet. Gould struggled. His disposal was poor, and other than a great run in the dying minutes that resulted in a goal he was quiet.

                      What was really apparent is how poor the first years dispose by foot. I guess they need a couple of seasons to get that right.
                      Thanks Barracuda, your bloods worth bottlin!

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                      • troyjones2525
                        Swans Fanatic!
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 2908

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
                        And you’ve let them know about it on their Instagram post by the looks of it haha !


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                        Haha bloody oath mate! Sick and tired of the lazy reporting by our club!

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                        • troyjones2525
                          Swans Fanatic!
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 2908

                          #42
                          It's a bit surprising that Stephens foot skills looked poor as from the vision I saw of him last year he looked pretty polished by foot which was something I was most excited about. Hopefully it was just a bad game.

                          Gould was another who was rated as a good kick last year so hope the same.

                          I think Warner was probably never a super skilled youngster but just a hard at it desperate type player, one type player that we've always targeted.

                          What we really need though is skill, we've been poor in that area for many years barring a couple of quality players so I really hope Stephens, Gould, E. Taylor and others improve fast!

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                          • 707
                            Veterans List
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 6204

                            #43
                            Thanks Barracuda, keep getting to those games on our behalf, cheers

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                            • barracuda
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Jun 2016
                              • 551

                              #44
                              Originally posted by troyjones2525
                              It's a bit surprising that Stephens foot skills looked poor as from the vision I saw of him last year he looked pretty polished by foot which was something I was most excited about. Hopefully it was just a bad game.

                              Gould was another who was rated as a good kick last year so hope the same.

                              I think Warner was probably never a super skilled youngster but just a hard at it desperate type player, one type player that we've always targeted.

                              What we really need though is skill, we've been poor in that area for many years barring a couple of quality players so I really hope Stephens, Gould, E. Taylor and others improve fast!

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                              Yes, watching them play on the weekend they were not confident with their passing kicks. As a consequence they were poking at them. So many dropped short or missed. I imagine over time they will get confident and start really banging their passes. Florent and Rowbottom can be a bit similar in that they are trying so hard to hit the target they choke the kick.

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                              • jono2707
                                Goes up to 11
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 3326

                                #45
                                I'd guess that whilst it's not ideal to play the same team too often, GWS have a pretty strong Reserves team so development wise, it's gotta be good for our kids to come up against them. Potentially the underwhelming disposals were at least in part due to strong pressure from a strong opposition? It must set our young 'uns up on a decent learning curve and be good preparation for the real thing....

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