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  • MattW
    Veterans List
    • May 2011
    • 4193

    Team List Changes for Rd. 5 vs West Coast Eagles

    IN: Stoddart; Melican; Gray
    OUT: Fox; Naismith; Blakey

    There is no point persevering with Fox in that running defender role - too many mistakes under pressure and I just don't see the improvement. He reminds me of Rose/Brandon Jack in his apparent fear of taking possession. I also think there is a pretty low ceiling on O'Riordan, although I understand that may be a minority view - too many kicking and awareness errors at the top level. So let's give Stoddart a go - properly, for at least a few weeks. He's been an emergency the last couple of games. I note barracuda's comment that he is not AFL standard, but it's his third year and I think it's time to give him another shot.

    Either McCartin or Melican in for Naismith. I went for Melican to play on either Darling or Kennedy, while Rampe takes the other. I can't see Aliir really matching either for body strength. But, we might need him to match up on one if Ryan gets loose against... *checks notes* ... Cunningham(?) and Rampe needs to take Ryan. The absence of a shut-down small defender in the Smith mould is a real liability. Please not Mills, he's a decent loose man type defender, but it's actually kind of painful to watch him defend one-on-one and Ryan will be too quick and the others too big. (Of course, John's comments in today's presser are not cause for optimism although he did readily acknowledge Mills played well in midfield.) I notice Brand is listed as injured for the next two weeks. Looks like we're waiting for O'Connor.

    Again, suspect this is a minority view, but Blakey looks really lost and down on confidence at the moment, and in my view needs a spell and a chance to build confidence playing at reserves level. It worked last year. Gray needs to up his work-rate, but at least he's a good kick and smart with the ball (yes, when he gets it).
  • waswan
    Senior Player
    • Oct 2015
    • 2047

    #2
    Stephens to play on Gaff

    Got to play a top 5 pick.

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    • waswan
      Senior Player
      • Oct 2015
      • 2047

      #3
      Stephens the 1 of 2 top 10 picks
      yet to get a game, the other is from Freo who have played 2 of their3 top ten picks

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      • Nico
        Veterans List
        • Jan 2003
        • 11328

        #4
        Please not Melican. As loose as granny's teeth and gives NO run out of the backline.
        http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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        • Markwebbos
          Veterans List
          • Jul 2016
          • 7186

          #5
          Someone needs to come in if Mills is to be allowed to move to the middle. Why not McCartin? Agree about Fox.

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          • TheBloods
            Suspended by the MRP
            • Feb 2020
            • 2047

            #6
            Out: take your pick - McLean, Blakey, Taylor, Fox, Ronke, McInerney, Hayward, Cunningham

            In: anyone who can perform for more than a quarter and a half. and who actually give a damn about the jumper they're wearing and the great club it represents.

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            • bloodspirit
              Clubman
              • Apr 2015
              • 4448

              #7
              Good intro, MattW. And some interesting ideas.

              On paper we look outgunned but it's not a bad time to have drawn the Eagles. Maybe their hub-itis will give us a chance. Or maybe they'll finally get their act together.

              I don't have many bright ideas about selection. It's hard to judge without being able to watch reserves. Could be good to regain McCartin but I won't be surprised if they spell him another week. Gray seems a likely inclusion although it will mean we're getting shorter and shorter. In fact, if we select as you suggest, won't we only have three players 190+ cm? (Sinclair, McLean & Aliir unless McCartin is available.) Actually, I'm overlooking the addition of Melican, which goes to show why we need him.

              I'm not sure what to think about COR. He's such a hard worker. Does that reinforce your point about him having a low ceiling (otherwise wouldn't he be better by now?) or does it suggest he will be able to remedy his deficiencies if given enough opportunity?

              Last random thought: it bears remembering that these are strange and difficult times. There are a lot of people who are struggling. Players are not immune. Do we need to make some allowance for this before making long term judgments about their worth? The coaches and welfare staff are fortunately better placed to assess this.
              All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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              • waswan
                Senior Player
                • Oct 2015
                • 2047

                #8
                Probably the tallest injury list ever, Mccartin aside everyone is 196cm Plus

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                • waswan
                  Senior Player
                  • Oct 2015
                  • 2047

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Markwebbos
                  Someone needs to come in if Mills is to be allowed to move to the middle. Why not McCartin? Agree about Fox.
                  Just read that article from Longmire about who replaces Mills down back, must be the only coach in the comp worried about losing a lockdown defender instead of a ball winning midfielder

                  He is our top 3 onballer or our 3rd best defender

                  Absolute madness

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                  • Mountain Man
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 907

                    #10
                    IMHO Mills is not well suited to match either Darling or Kennedy (too small) OR Ryan (too slow). Surely Mills to mid field for this match.

                    If McCartin is available, it will be interesting to see if he is played down back or in the forward line - good experience if on say Darling.

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                    • 111431
                      Regular in the Side
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 697

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Mountain Man
                      IMHO Mills is not well suited to match either Darling or Kennedy (too small) OR Ryan (too slow). Surely Mills to mid field for this match.

                      If McCartin is available, it will be interesting to see if he is played down back or in the forward line - good experience if on say Darling.
                      Darling will snap Big Tommy in half

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                      • Ralph Dawg
                        Senior Player
                        • Apr 2018
                        • 1729

                        #12
                        Given how important it is to rebound quickly out of defence, especially when you have an undersized forward line, I feel we need to free Aliir and Rampe from tackling the big KF. Aliir is much better playing loose, intercepting attacking forays and Rampe can be potent with his run and carry, finished off with a penetrating left boot. Plus Aliir then more able to give a chop out in the ruck. Would it not be worth trying 2 of Melican, Brand and Maibaum to match up on Darling and Kennedy? Our back half could look like Melican, Brand (if fit), Aliir, Rampe, Lloyd, Cunningham. Mills plays out of the middle, Dawson on a wing / HF.

                        Ins Melican Brand (Maibaum) McCartain
                        Outs Naismith Fox Hayward

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                        • waswan
                          Senior Player
                          • Oct 2015
                          • 2047

                          #13
                          Brand is unavailable
                          He "hurt himself in the final session and couldnt get up for the game" which is 3 weeks min at Sydney

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                          • longmile
                            Crumber
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 3360

                            #14
                            In: Melican, Gray
                            Out: Naismith, Blakey

                            Hayward to try a more midfield or defensive role.

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                            • KSAS
                              Senior Player
                              • Mar 2018
                              • 1766

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                              Given how important it is to rebound quickly out of defence, especially when you have an undersized forward line, I feel we need to free Aliir and Rampe from tackling the big KF. Aliir is much better playing loose, intercepting attacking forays and Rampe can be potent with his run and carry, finished off with a penetrating left boot. Plus Aliir then more able to give a chop out in the ruck. Would it not be worth trying 2 of Melican, Brand and Maibaum to match up on Darling and Kennedy? Our back half could look like Melican, Brand (if fit), Aliir, Rampe, Lloyd, Cunningham. Mills plays out of the middle, Dawson on a wing / HF.

                              Ins Melican Brand (Maibaum) McCartain
                              Outs Naismith Fox Hayward
                              +1
                              This also has been my thinking with our defensive structure & where players might be best suited for their game/team. With Brand still being unavailable, Maibaum comes into selection consideration as the 3rd tall. McCartin and McLean being our tall targets up forward, with the latter also able to provide as a ruck chop out alongside Allir in assisting Sinclair. Not sure where Knoll is at with his injury recovery, but look forward to see him being given a decent run in Naismith's absence.

                              My only point of difference is Blakey going out instead of Hayward, who appears to be suffering from the 2nd year blues. Agree with Longmile above for Hayward to be given more of a midfield/defensive role to see if it helps improves his game.

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