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  • Kafka's Ghost
    Regular in the Side
    • Sep 2017
    • 903

    Originally posted by rickmat
    Could not agree more, this comment puts the Swans situation in real perspective
    Hear, hear. We have no fit ruckmen and our forward line is lacking any height at all. McLean competes and is a good mark, he shows promise but he’s played 7 games. We’re rebuilding, and it will take time. After last week the Eagles were always going to have a point to prove, too.

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    • mcs
      Travelling Swannie!!
      • Jul 2007
      • 8166

      Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
      Do you think he and Bruce actually make 'Guitar Solo' faces when commentating?
      No idea but I genuinally thought the screen would go white at some stage and a 'technical difficulties' message would appear
      "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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      • rojo
        Opti-pessi-misti
        • Mar 2009
        • 1103

        I think you may be right re Heeney and Mills to the midfield. What is there to lose! It is too much for JPK and Parkes who no doubt are the first to be covered by the opposition and having Hewett tagging someone, where is the inside grunt coming from except for Rowbottom? I was disappointed with Florent today, he along with Lloyd and Cunningham, make that most of the others, are so easily pushed off the ball, out of the marking contest, guard space rather than getting in front or putting the body on the line. We had no effective talls today. What has happened to Dawson, he is a shadow of how he was playing at the end of last year and what does one say about Aliir, Blakey, Hayward and Melican!

        I know the team was very undermanned today so it is probably amazing that we weren't smashed. When so many players have to be pushed around the ground so much, all the lines are unsettled and instead of playing confident football, the less experienced ones are either too concerned about where they should be and who the should be picking up or who should be going for the ball or be at the feet etc,.and the more experienced ones have to look after their team mates as well as the opposition. I give a tick today to Rowbottom and McInerney, they weren't perfect but they were giving what I like to see. Papley and Heeney, along with Parkes were doing their best and Rampe and Mills just didn't have enough support in the backline. Today we just didn't have enough experienced, in form players on the ground to carry the rest, against a good team which played well. What a difference even just Sinclair would have made.

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        • mcs
          Travelling Swannie!!
          • Jul 2007
          • 8166

          Originally posted by Mark26
          Agreed. That’s the beauty of playing kids. The effort is there. We need more of it.
          I was also impressed with Rowbottom and McInerney's efforts. They are part of our future.[/QUOTE]

          I have said time and time again how good I think Rowbottom is. McInerney is an interesting one. Does some good stuff, but decision making seems below par at this stage. Definitely worth perservering with however.
          "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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          • Nico
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 11339

            Originally posted by jono2707
            Hear hear. It's an absolute must that they get more midfield time from now on. Heeney especially thrives on the contest and is not a full forward. He needs to be given more opportunities to shape the game in the middle, and deliver more passes like that into the 50.

            And Hayward can have a rest. He's stinking it up this year.
            I think starting Hayward back next week, right from the start, is the best move. Preferably 20 rows back in the stand.
            http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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            • snajik
              Senior Player
              • Jan 2003
              • 1115

              Originally posted by stevoswan
              ....and the Suns are getting flogged to boot. Time to see how much fortitude they have.
              Yet in the blink of an eye.......
              It's very hard to live in a studio apartment in San Jose with a man who's learning to play violin. That's what she told the police when she handed them the empty revolver.
              The Scarlatti Tilt - Richard Brautigan

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              • stevoswan
                Veterans List
                • Sep 2014
                • 8559

                Originally posted by snajik
                Yet in the blink of an eye.......
                True....it appears they have some fortitude after all.????

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                • waswan
                  Senior Player
                  • Oct 2015
                  • 2047

                  Undermanned and out of position and injuries blah blah blah.

                  We have passengers getting games over kids, one is a top 5 pick. In the age of entitlement these guys need games.

                  Ronke, Cunningham, COR, Hayward, Gray..... How exactly are they holding out anyone. 10 possessions from an experienced player (consistently) may mean they deserve to be overlooked.

                  Harry C in the side as a run with ? Why, let a kid do that.

                  Stephens has the biggest tank at the club

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                  • snajik
                    Senior Player
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 1115

                    So for season 2020 we've lost Smith, Grundy, McVeigh and Melican from the backline, Franklin, Reid and McCartin atm from the forward line, we have no ruckmen left, we have multiple players down on form. We have played some poor quarters but in the main we've been competitive. I question whether now is the ideal time to be bringing in debutants en masse. Maybe a staggered process would be better at the moment, and hope the incumbents play themselves into some form as others slowly return from injury. The best we can do is to stem the tide.

                    We could also do with some good luck.
                    It's very hard to live in a studio apartment in San Jose with a man who's learning to play violin. That's what she told the police when she handed them the empty revolver.
                    The Scarlatti Tilt - Richard Brautigan

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                    • Blood Fever
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 4050

                      Originally posted by waswan
                      Undermanned and out of position and injuries blah blah blah.

                      We have passengers getting games over kids, one is a top 5 pick. In the age of entitlement these guys need games.

                      Ronke, Cunningham, COR, Hayward, Gray..... How exactly are they holding out anyone. 10 possessions from an experienced player (consistently) may mean they deserve to be overlooked.

                      Harry C in the side as a run with ? Why, let a kid do that.

                      Stephens has the biggest tank at the club
                      Cunningham playing a role in the backline. Was on Ryan and did ok.

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                      • Ralph Dawg
                        Senior Player
                        • Apr 2018
                        • 1729

                        Beautiful day to watch the footy and Metricon is just an awesome ground. Now the bad news......

                        We have too many players not of AFL standard. Our midfield was slaughtered, not only by the ruck dominance but also through lack of execution and composure. Too often we would string together 2 or 3 hand passes with a final kick or hand pass needed to get into space being completely fluffed. Our lack of pace on the outside was obvious. Tackling pressure poor. JPK, Parks and Rowbottom were solid enough but with no helpers.

                        Our backline was spanked. Poor in the one on one contests. Rampe must pull his hair out every week with the lack of support. Lloyd racks up the touches as a link but really there is no one to run off him with any effect.

                        Our forward line suffers from opportunity. No point bombing it in when we are midgets but that's about all we can conjure up. At one point, Paps was outnumbered in a marking contest against McGovern and Barass. Most times we were outnumbered in attack because we had to push numbers into our beleaguered defence. Having said all this, the lack of forward tackling pressure was obvious, with the Eagles exiting defence with ease.

                        We obviously need our big men back. But our list is still very shallow, especially in the midfield and defence. Based on what I saw live today, Clarke, COR, Cunningham, Hayward, Gray, Melican, Aliir and Ronke would all struggle to hold their spots if we had any suitable replacements.

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                        • Nico
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 11339

                          Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                          Beautiful day to watch the footy and Metricon is just an awesome ground. Now the bad news......

                          We have too many players not of AFL standard. Our midfield was slaughtered, not only by the ruck dominance but also through lack of execution and composure. Too often we would string together 2 or 3 hand passes with a final kick or hand pass needed to get into space being completely fluffed. Our lack of pace on the outside was obvious. Tackling pressure poor. JPK, Parks and Rowbottom were solid enough but with no helpers.

                          Our backline was spanked. Poor in the one on one contests. Rampe must pull his hair out every week with the lack of support. Lloyd racks up the touches as a link but really there is no one to run off him with any effect.

                          Our forward line suffers from opportunity. No point bombing it in when we are midgets but that's about all we can conjure up. At one point, Paps was outnumbered in a marking contest against McGovern and Barass. Most times we were outnumbered in attack because we had to push numbers into our beleaguered defence. Having said all this, the lack of forward tackling pressure was obvious, with the Eagles exiting defence with ease.

                          We obviously need our big men back. But our list is still very shallow, especially in the midfield and defence. Based on what I saw live today, Clarke, COR, Cunningham, Hayward, Gray, Melican, Aliir and Ronke would all struggle to hold their spots if we had any suitable replacements.
                          Spot on summary.
                          http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                          • crackedactor 01
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Jun 2020
                            • 743

                            Better recruiting than us. Taylor, Gray , Clarke?? Not one of them is up to AFL standard. Our recruiting officer must be losing it and its time to find an replacement.

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                            • AB Swannie
                              Senior Player
                              • Mar 2017
                              • 1579

                              First three first choice rucks injured. First three choice key forwards injured. Team already rebuilding after losing about 1000 games experience through retirement. Let’s be honest. We had almost no chance.

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                              • Captain
                                Captain of the Side
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 3602

                                I thought Cunningham was pretty good. Locked down Ryan well and generally used the ball well.

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