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  • waswan
    Senior Player
    • Oct 2015
    • 2047

    #61
    Originally posted by Odysseus
    Where are you reading that, waswan? What I'm seeing the-full-afl-injury-list-round-nine says 6-8 weeks for Hewett. It's Rampe who, apparently, is a chance against all previous expectation.
    Was on AFL this morning been updated since

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    • Blood Fever
      Veterans List
      • Apr 2007
      • 4051

      #62
      Originally posted by Markwebbos
      That was my thinking. Given our trouble winning clearances and lacking leg speed why didn’t the Swans play him on ball?
      We did play him on the ball but he kept getting injured

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      • Ludwig
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2007
        • 9359

        #63
        All 14 Experts at The Age picked St. Kilda to win, for what it's worth.

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        • TheBloods
          Suspended by the MRP
          • Feb 2020
          • 2047

          #64
          Originally posted by Markwebbos
          An important requirement from this week's game v the Saints is that Mills continues to be allowed to play in the midfield. If Rampe is unable to play, which seems quite a high probability, then I don't want Mills being moved back to provide leadership. Let Aliir lead and bring in the Manchild.

          BTW there was a discussion on the AFL website (The Data Game) of how Zak Jones is flourishing as a centre-bounce attending midfielder rather than wingman. He's averaging 6.5 clearances a game!
          Was Mills really that influential in the midfield? He was serviceable no doubt, but it's ironic you speak of how well Zak Jones is doing in clearances. Our mids didn't look close to getting a clearance, Mills included. Rowbottom most likely, but all he did was get caught with it.

          Would Mills be missed that much at centre bounces? I highly doubt that .

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          • MattW
            Veterans List
            • May 2011
            • 4232

            #65
            Originally posted by Ludwig
            All 14 Experts at The Age picked St. Kilda to win, for what it's worth.
            Certainly worth noting. Last week 3/14 tipped us. Let's show them!

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            • Markwebbos
              Veterans List
              • Jul 2016
              • 7186

              #66
              Originally posted by Blood Fever
              We did play him on the ball but he kept getting injured
              That’s not how I remember it.

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              Originally posted by TheBloods
              Was Mills really that influential in the midfield? He was serviceable no doubt, but it's ironic you speak of how well Zak Jones is doing in clearances. Our mids didn't look close to getting a clearance, Mills included. Rowbottom most likely, but all he did was get caught with it.

              Would Mills be missed that much at centre bounces? I highly doubt that .
              He’s had one game. He needs to be given a run at it, preferably the rest of the year.

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              • Melbourne_Blood
                Senior Player
                • May 2010
                • 3312

                #67
                Originally posted by Markwebbos
                That’s not how I remember it.

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                He’s had one game. He needs to be given a run at it, preferably the rest of the year.
                + 1. He’s essentially having to re learn a role that he’s pretty much never played at the top level. It’s not going to happen after one or two games.


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                • MattW
                  Veterans List
                  • May 2011
                  • 4232

                  #68
                  A little love here, although they couldn't resist a hackneyed sledge at the start of the bit (also the Fox reporters are tipping St Kilda 11 zip):

                  "Champion Data numbers revealed On The Couch indicated the Swans’ ball movement has become quicker, more central and more direct. Over the past four rounds, the Swans have been ranked first for corridor usage from defensive 50 and kick long percentage, as well as second for mark-play on percentage and third for kick forward percentage."

                  AFL Round 9 2020 tipping, Blowtorch: Preview, fixture, tips, predictions, SuperCoach, Fox Footy commentators, betting odds | FOX SPORTS

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                  • Colin Hounsell
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Jul 2020
                    • 19

                    #69
                    Agreed. The media “good on you horse for letting the kids play” comments are just as repetitive and stupid as the criticisms from 4 weeks ago. Problem with those Mexicans is they don’t enjoy tactics and hard hits.

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                    • Colin Hounsell
                      On the Rookie List
                      • Jul 2020
                      • 19

                      #70
                      On changes for this week, surely Rampe out. Maybe Stephens rested. Hopefully Hayward in. Try Melican as well.

                      Try Bell on the ball this week? Seeing Clarke fire up on the ball last week reminded me that people like Bell and Gray will do better following the ball than on a flank. Still may not make the grade but sticking them at high half forward doesn’t really allow them to do their best.

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                      • neilfws
                        Senior Player
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 1835

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Ludwig
                        All 14 Experts at The Age picked St. Kilda to win, for what it's worth.
                        14/15 models over at Squiggle too, for what that's worth. Not by big margins though.

                        St Kilda v Sydney @ Gabba

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                        • mcs
                          Travelling Swannie!!
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 8177

                          #72
                          Originally posted by MattW
                          Certainly worth noting. Last week 3/14 tipped us. Let's show them!
                          Maybe this is the time they break the 'bogey team' badge with us - but we've had the wood over St Kilda, even when we've been going really poorly at times in recent seasons. A repeat effort of what we did in Q3/start Q4 last week and we can upset them.

                          They are an ever improving team, but for whatever reason we've always worried them in recent years. I fancy us to keep it close at worse, but depending on in/out (i.e. if rampe is there in particular) I don't rule us out of getting another upset.
                          "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                          • Ludwig
                            Veterans List
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 9359

                            #73
                            I was quite critical of the way St. Kilda overpaid for Brad Hill and traded their way out of 2 drafts, 2019 and 2020. 2019 looks like it will turn out to be a pretty good draft. But the rest of what the Saints did has worked out better than they could have imagined. I'm not surprised that Zak Jones is doing well, but how lucky, or astute, were they with Dan Butler. And Jack Steele has become a very serious AA contender in their midfield. And how about picking up Rowan Marshall and Callum Wilkie in rookie drafts. Except for Hanners, their injury list is one of the best in the league.

                            With Covid and probable list size reductions, it no big deal not being a player in this year's draft.

                            It's hard to get so many things right in such a short time that it propels you from a non-contender to premiership contender, but the Saints seem to have done it. It's a bit like the way we built out last premiership team, getting critical pieces from a lot of different sources and having a healthy list nearly every year. How things have changed.

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                            • Blood Fever
                              Veterans List
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 4051

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Ludwig
                              I was quite critical of the way St. Kilda overpaid for Brad Hill and traded their way out of 2 drafts, 2019 and 2020. 2019 looks like it will turn out to be a pretty good draft. But the rest of what the Saints did has worked out better than they could have imagined. I'm not surprised that Zak Jones is doing well, but how lucky, or astute, were they with Dan Butler. And Jack Steele has become a very serious AA contender in their midfield. And how about picking up Rowan Marshall and Callum Wilkie in rookie drafts. Except for Hanners, their injury list is one of the best in the league.

                              With Covid and probable list size reductions, it no big deal not being a player in this year's draft.

                              It's hard to get so many things right in such a short time that it propels you from a non-contender to premiership contender, but the Saints seem to have done it. It's a bit like the way we built out last premiership team, getting critical pieces from a lot of different sources and having a healthy list nearly every year. How things have changed.
                              Premature hailing of the Saints as contenders. One really good win has happened before to them, for them to revert to type. Not convinced yet.

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                              • 707
                                Veterans List
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 6204

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Blood Fever
                                Premature hailing of the Saints as contenders. One really good win has happened before to them, for them to revert to type. Not convinced yet.
                                They've done what they have this year with a very healthy list, not sure they have a lot of quality depth if they get hit with injuries, their form has also been patchy like every team so far.

                                Only got a first rounder this year then junk picks so last years trade period was risky. Let's wait and see eh?

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