Changes for Round 10 v Pies

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  • caj23
    Senior Player
    • Aug 2003
    • 2462

    #76
    Originally posted by 707
    Other teams making lots of changes to rest players, wonder if we'll have a few extra changes accordingly.
    We’ve been making more changes than normal this year, I’m sure we’ll follow suit

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    • Melbourne_Blood
      Senior Player
      • May 2010
      • 3312

      #77
      Changes for Round 10 v Pies

      Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
      It's strange, isn't it? I think even Longmire in his post-match press conference, said something along the lines of: we got smashed in the clearances. But statistically, we didn't? Though I suppose that's a quantitative assessment, rather than a qualitative one.
      Yeah I think clearances need to be broken into categories to tell the full story. Effective and ineffective maybe. All well and good winning the clearances but if they all end up down the throat of the opposition more times than not it doesn’t really help. Conversely you can win far fewer but if they are clean and gain your side territory and land in a teammates arms, it’s a different story.


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      Last edited by Melbourne_Blood; 4 August 2020, 08:58 PM.

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      • Auntie.Gerald
        Veterans List
        • Oct 2009
        • 6480

        #78
        I suspect that we all could go close to agreeing that if you pick warner or ling or you dont pick warner or ling it wont make a serious difference to the outcome of a game.

        Same for most of the peripheral players that are fighting for experience and or emerging into our 22

        For me i dont care much either way re which emerging young players is in or out..........but what i am not a fan of is persisting with dead wood / robbing opportunity for our youth in a season where the only advantage we gain is more games for our youth.
        "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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        • dejavoodoo44
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2015
          • 8637

          #79
          Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
          Yeah I think clearances need to be broken into categories to tell the full story. Effective and ineffective maybe. All well and good winning the clearances but if they all end up down the throat of the opposition more times than not it doesn’t really help. Conversely you can win far fewer but if they are clean and gain your side territory and land in a teammates arms, it’s a different story.


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          Yes, I wonder if the clubs keep more detailed stats, than what is available to the general public? I assume they would.

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          • waswan
            Senior Player
            • Oct 2015
            • 2047

            #80
            Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
            I suspect that we all could go close to agreeing that if you pick warner or ling or you dont pick warner or ling it wont make a serious difference to the outcome of a game.

            Same for most of the peripheral players that are fighting for experience and or emerging into our 22 .
            I think we create peripheral players when we play them out of position.
            Ling is a different story due to injury but no way, no how is Warner a small forward. Put him in the middle.

            Look at Cerong, played on ball against Danger and after 3 games being talked up as a running mate to Fyfe.

            We took 4 yrs to put Mills on Bont.
            Give them a taste of why they were drafted and we might be surprised.

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            • waswan
              Senior Player
              • Oct 2015
              • 2047

              #81
              From the Swans bloody website -

              Warner impressed for Western Australia in the 2019 AFL Under-18 Championships, averaging 18.2 touches (50 per cent contested), 3.2 clearances and 6.8 tackles per game. He also tallied an average of 27.1 disposals, 6.4 clearances and 7.4 tackles per match at Colts level for East Fremantle in 2019

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              • RogueSwan
                McVeigh for Brownlow
                • Apr 2003
                • 4602

                #82
                Originally posted by Captain
                Harry is the lock down defender, Nick Smith replacement. He must stay there.
                Originally posted by caj23
                I think a stronger midfield is more important than a lockdown defender, I’m on the Harry to mids bandwagon
                HC isn't a 1 on 1 defender.
                He was a good wing man back in the sling shot days. Speed and decent kick in to forward line. Now, if only we had a forward line ...
                "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                • Thunder Shaker
                  Aut vincere aut mori
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 4200

                  #83
                  We should look at resting players who have niggling injuries.

                  For what it's worth, we have a bye coming up but that's not a real bye because it's only a 7-day break. That bye only seems to exist so we can be switched from the "late" half of a round's fixture to the "early" half. When we play the Giants on August 13, Geelong play Port Adelaide the following day. We have not played either of these sides yet and I'm expecting our next two games in the next fixture block to be against at least one of these sides, possibly both. (I can't work out the Giant's likely next opponents though, they've already played both of these sides and both of the sides that play the following day, North and Brisbane.)

                  Therefore, do not be surprised if we end up making six or more changes, and Collingwood do the same. Other clubs are already doing it this week. Team changes showing players being "managed": Geelong 4 (plus 1 injured) vs North 3 (plus 1 injured), Adelaide 4 (plus 4 omitted), Melbourne none (plus 1 injury and 3 omitted).
                  "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                  • Mark26
                    Senior Player
                    • Jan 2017
                    • 1535

                    #84
                    Originally posted by waswan
                    I think we create peripheral players when we play them out of position.
                    Ling is a different story due to injury but no way, no how is Warner a small forward. Put him in the middle.

                    Look at Cerong, played on ball against Danger and after 3 games being talked up as a running mate to Fyfe.

                    We took 4 yrs to put Mills on Bont.
                    Give them a taste of why they were drafted and we might be surprised.
                    +1

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                    • RogueSwan
                      McVeigh for Brownlow
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 4602

                      #85
                      Originally posted by waswan
                      I think we create peripheral players when we play them out of position.
                      ...
                      Give them a taste of why they were drafted and we might be surprised.
                      Blakey to the mids?
                      "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                      • 707
                        Veterans List
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 6204

                        #86
                        Originally posted by RogueSwan
                        Blakey to the mids?
                        Mills to mids? :-)

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                        • waswan
                          Senior Player
                          • Oct 2015
                          • 2047

                          #87
                          Originally posted by RogueSwan
                          Blakey to the mids?
                          couldnt hurt could it

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                          • Captain
                            Captain of the Side
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 3602

                            #88
                            Would be good for Sam Reid to actually stand up as well.

                            We have persisted with him through his injuries and it's time that he, as a senior player, delivers something.

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                            • stevoswan
                              Veterans List
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 8559

                              #89
                              Originally posted by Captain
                              Would be good for Sam Reid to actually stand up as well.

                              We have persisted with him through his injuries and it's time that he, as a senior player, delivers something.
                              Yes....he isn't the most consistent player for all his 'experience'.....plays a blinder one week, getting all our hopes up then goes missing for weeks....or gets injured again. He has been frustrating. Time to repay the fans and the club Sam.

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                              • jono2707
                                Goes up to 11
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 3326

                                #90
                                Looks like there'll be another debutant tomorrow.

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