Round 12: Swans v Giants in Perth

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  • Melbourne_Blood
    Senior Player
    • May 2010
    • 3312

    Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
    Blakey has to play as a wingman, with occasional attendances inside and some time roaming at half forward. He is too slightly built to play as a KF and given how narrow his shoulders are, unlikely to become bulky enough. Plus his skill set lends to playing in a more midfield role.

    Rowbottom is a future AA inside mid. It's only a matter of time before he plays whole games like his first quarter last night.
    I have thought the same Re Blakey. How do put size onto such a remarkably slender man ? I’m sure it can be done to an extent but I just Can’t imagine it.


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    • Syd76
      Warming the Bench
      • Jul 2019
      • 200

      Robbie Fox for the most improved player at the Swans this year.

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      • Markwebbos
        Veterans List
        • Jul 2016
        • 7186

        Originally posted by Syd76
        Robbie Fox for the most improved player at the Swans this year.
        Or possibly Sir James?

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        • Ralph Dawg
          Senior Player
          • Apr 2018
          • 1729

          Originally posted by Markwebbos
          Or possibly Sir James?
          It would be a tough choice. I'd give it to Fox, given his baseline was alot lower than Rowbum. He's gone from being a spare parts player, likely delist to an integral part of the backline.

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          • Scottee
            Senior Player
            • Aug 2003
            • 1585

            Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
            Yes, a few things about Cameron's performance stick in my mind. Firstly, his only goal was from a non-existent free against Rampe. Secondly, the Mills headlock showed his tendency to turn to dirt, when he's getting thoroughly beaten. And adding an exclamation mark to how badly he was getting beaten by the great Dane, was Rampe throwing out his injured right hand, to casually pluck a one handed mark.

            And on the extended headlock: that's a perfect example, of how the various interpretations of the 50 metres rules drive me crazy. On the one hand, players are penalized for fleetingly encroaching in the protected zone, for ostensibly slowing down play; even though the ball carrier often has no idea that they're there. On the other hand, when a player is penalized for high contact and then chooses to continue that headlock for another five seconds or so, that is inevitably considered not to be worthy of a 50. Even though it obviously slows down play, far more than the fleeting encroachment.
            Should have been a 50.Pathetic inaction by the umpire.

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            We have them where we want them, everything is going according to plan!

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            • Swanny40519
              Regular in the side.
              • Oct 2012
              • 469

              A big cheer to the WA Swans supporters last night. I was surprised by the amount of red and white in the crowd and the cheers for our team, particularly in the last qtr.

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              • Hotpotato
                Senior Player
                • Jun 2014
                • 2271

                The only change I’d like is to see Lloyd stop going 5 miles backwards after a mark or a free kick ... I know it’s necessary sometimes when heaps of players are behind the ball... but it’s a momentum killer otherwise.

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                • stevoswan
                  Veterans List
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 8559

                  Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                  And on the extended headlock: that's a perfect example, of how the various interpretations of the 50 metres rules drive me crazy. On the one hand, players are penalized for fleetingly encroaching in the protected zone, for ostensibly slowing down play; even though the ball carrier often has no idea that they're there. On the other hand, when a player is penalized for high contact and then chooses to continue that headlock for another five seconds or so, that is inevitably considered not to be worthy of a 50. Even though it obviously slows down play, far more than the fleeting encroachment.
                  Nicely put......the 'encroachment' rule is the stupidest, most harshly penalised infraction in footy. It's a shame our leagues leaders are too stupid to see that. Any rule that goes against the spirit of the game and the spirit of fairness should be scrapped.....and this one is the worst.

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                  • waswan
                    Senior Player
                    • Oct 2015
                    • 2047

                    Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                    Blakey has to play as a wingman, with occasional attendances inside and some time roaming at half forward. He is too slightly built to play as a KF and given how narrow his shoulders are, unlikely to become bulky enough. Plus his skill set lends to playing in a more midfield role.
                    Turn him into a Bont, his skillset and pace lend him to being anything in there. Massive line breaker
                    A point of note also is that he was by far the lowest Time on Ground too, 64%, will only get better.

                    So many good tough players, Parker is unbelievable in tight, Bell contests on the ground as much as Tom and Sam do in the air fwd, very underrated influence.

                    Ollie was inside outside too, dont understand the bashing on here for him. He did alot of the tough stuff for a slight build.

                    Defence was unreal, oraganised and the fact that Mills in 23 is amazing.

                    Would love to see all that young manic fwd pressure alongside Buddy

                    Everyone did their jobs and the players we need getting touches got touches.

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                    • Ralph Dawg
                      Senior Player
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 1729

                      Originally posted by waswan
                      Turn him into a Bont, his skillset and pace lend him to being anything in there. Massive line breaker
                      A point of note also is that he was by far the lowest Time on Ground too, 64%, will only get better.

                      So many good tough players, Parker is unbelievable in tight, Bell contests on the ground as much as Tom and Sam do in the air fwd, very underrated influence.

                      Ollie was inside outside too, dont understand the bashing on here for him. He did alot of the tough stuff for a slight build.

                      Defence was unreal, oraganised and the fact that Mills in 23 is amazing.

                      Would love to see all that young manic fwd pressure alongside Buddy

                      Everyone did their jobs and the players we need getting touches got touches.
                      I agree about Ollie, did alot of grunt work and tackled hard, as did Stephens. I reckon Dylan will have a breakout game soon.

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                      • Markwebbos
                        Veterans List
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 7186

                        Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
                        I agree about Ollie, did alot of grunt work and tackled hard, as did Stephens. I reckon Dylan will have a breakout game soon.
                        Thought he had a breakout quarter in the previous game against the Pies. He seems pretty tough for a skinny looking kid. Laid the perfect tackle on, I think, Cameron not far from their goal, when Cameron was looking for a high free kick.

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                        • dejavoodoo44
                          Veterans List
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 8637

                          Originally posted by stevoswan
                          Nicely put......the 'encroachment' rule is the stupidest, most harshly penalised infraction in footy. It's a shame our leagues leaders are too stupid to see that. Any rule that goes against the spirit of the game and the spirit of fairness should be scrapped.....and this one is the worst.
                          And the other element in the infuriating mix, is that some teams to be drilled, that if you can't stop your opponent from taking a mark, then at least rugby tackle them from behind. Hawthorn defenders, such as Stratton, Sicily and Frawley, seem to be the main adherents to this deliberate delaying tactic. Even though it's in the rules as a 50 and it slows down the play far more than encroachment, it's very rarely penalized.

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                          • dejavoodoo44
                            Veterans List
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 8637

                            Originally posted by Markwebbos
                            Thought he had a breakout quarter in the previous game against the Pies. He seems pretty tough for a skinny looking kid. Laid the perfect tackle on, I think, Cameron not far from their goal, when Cameron was looking for a high free kick.
                            That might of been Langdon: when he started throwing his head back, before any contact was made. Since contact was then made at around chest level, you'd have to say that there was more staging, than what Papley was fined for.

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                            • neilfws
                              Senior Player
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 1826

                              Well worth watching the highlights package. I think it captures most of the key moments. The Papley to Bell goal sequence is great, as is Stephens' goal.

                              Just good solid kicking for goal all round really.

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                              • O'Reilly Boy
                                Warming the Bench
                                • Feb 2014
                                • 474

                                I agree re Bell. He brings a considerable presence and seems able to impose himself physically. The team looked fast, and a lot of that was to do with good ball movement and the hard attack on the ball, led by Papley, Parker, Rowbottom and Thurlow, whose game I really enjoyed. FLorent not so visible, but I didn't mind what he did. Got to the right places and did his bit. Stephens is starting to show why he was such a high pick. Love the way he is building into the team.

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