Round 12, the other games. When too much footy is never enough.

[AB Swannie]

Not happy about umpire influenced Carlton win.

If we beat Freo next week we'll be up to 12th, with JUH matching very early, that means pick 8, about where Campbell might attract a bid. There goes our double dip at the pointy end of the draft :-(

So you don’t want us to win next week?

[707]

So you don’t want us to win next week?

A narrow loss due to a last minute umpiring error Freo's way (to balance up last night's wrong calls) would do me fine. Happy to win against top 8 sides not the "eight point" games against those in the lower reaches of the table vying with us for picks 2,3,4

Got my heart set on a pick before matching Campbell and Gulden :-)

[MattW]

A narrow loss due to a last minute umpiring error Freo's way (to balance up last night's wrong calls) would do me fine. Happy to win against top 8 sides not the "eight point" games against those in the lower reaches of the table vying with us for picks 2,3,4

Got my heart set on a pick before matching Campbell and Gulden :-)

I think wins for this young squad are more valuable than picks.

[stevoswan]

I just don't get all this whining about the fact that winning is wrecking our high draft pick position and somehow threatening our future.
We play to win......not too manipulate the draft. We are not Melbourne.....we have pride and a 'winning' culture.
Move on.....

[Markwebbos]

I just don't get all this whining about the fact that winning is wrecking our high draft pick position and somehow threatening our future.
We play to win......not too manipulate the draft. We are not Melbourne.....we have pride and a 'winning' culture.
Move on.....

I agree with you and MattW, wins are what we want. Worth bearing in mind too that Freo are in deficit and will slip a place or two in the draft from their ladder position.

[Meg]

I think wins for this young squad are more valuable than picks.

Spot on. The joy in the change rooms after the match is all the evidence you need.

[Sandridge]

I just don't get all this whining about the fact that winning is wrecking our high draft pick position and somehow threatening our future.
We play to win......not too manipulate the draft. We are not Melbourne.....we have pride and a 'winning' culture.
Move on.....

Absolutely!! You've only got to look at how we played Thursday night and the celebration afterwards.

[KTigers]

I just don't get all this whining about the fact that winning is wrecking our high draft pick position and somehow threatening our future.
We play to win......not too manipulate the draft. We are not Melbourne.....we have pride and a 'winning' culture.
Move on.....

Yes, it is odd thinking isn't it? ie let's not win now, so that we can maybe get a higher draft pick that might be able to help us
win in three or four years. How about this idea instead.... we win now AND we win later.

[Sandridge]

Early days but Hawks getting thrashed.

[707]

I agree with you and MattW, wins are what we want. Worth bearing in mind too that Freo are in deficit and will slip a place or two in the draft from their ladder position.

Good point, forgot that

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Early days but Hawks getting thrashed.

Oh no, they'll drop below us and grab pick 3!

How's the angry gnome taking it? In his usual surly manner no doubt!

[rb4x]

Yes Hawks are below the Swans on a live ladder at present

[dejavoodoo44]

Yes Hawks are below the Swans on a live ladder at present

One down, another seven and we're in the eight.

[dejavoodoo44]

Odd first quarter: Richmond leading the inside 50 count 17-4. The quarter time score, 13-13. Also odd is Oleg Markov wearing boots that are almost all black, and matched with black socks, they seem really strange. Times have changed. Pink, fluoro green, bright orange and shiny gold stripes, all now par for the course, but black; well, that's a bit weird.

[MattW]

I really don't like Richmond's Tom Lynch.

AFL 2020: Tom Lynch hit on Sam Collins, Richmond vs Gold Coast Suns | FOX SPORTS

[KTigers]

I really don't like Richmond's Tom Lynch.

AFL 2020: Tom Lynch hit on Sam Collins, Richmond vs Gold Coast Suns | FOX SPORTS

Yes, he has turned into a bit of a dickhead. Or was he like this before, when he was at the Suns?