Changes for Round 13 vs Fremantle

[Meg]

In Rampe's case it looks less like bad luck and more like bad management. He played on with an injury so we can hardly be surprised unfortunately [emoji22].

The surgeon who operated on Rampe’s hand cleared him to play - so it wasn’t bad management that he has been playing with the injury. It would be if he continued to play on now after re-injuring it (as Longmire said Dane wanted to do).

I wonder if he will come back to Sydney for the operation with the same surgeon and then stay in Sydney. His situation in regard to having an operation and then rejoining the club might be complicated by quarantine requirements I think (both currently in WA and going forward in Qld).

It will be a double blow if the players lose him as an off-field leader as well as losing him as a player.

[barracuda]

Barracuda, could Fox play on Fyfe? I imagine he's going to be a difficult match up, like Dangerfield, who did a number on Rampe in that final a few years ago

I'm not sure, Fox could out run fyfe but struggle managing fyfe's bigger body

[barracuda]

Gould not quick enough? Haven't you seen his highlights reel?

Yes, and I have been fortunate to watch all the scratch matches. Gould is awesome, don't get me wrong, and I hope he debuts. But this year he has not been as quick as rampe or maubaum when his player breaks on the lead. Both rampe and maubaum have the closing speed over a short distance. Gould not quite as much. Yet! Having said all that I would be stoked if he debuted.

[707]

Gould's non appearance so far has had me baffled, on what he did at SANFL level, including the Premiership, he looked a monty for an early debut.

We've got a lot gone for the year now, should be opportunities for more debutants.

Barra, how is Barry O'Connor going in the scratchies?

[Odysseus]

The surgeon who operated on Rampe’s hand cleared him to play - so it wasn’t bad management that he has been playing with the injury. It would be if he continued to play on now after re-injuring it (as Longmire said Dane wanted to do).

I wonder if he will come back to Sydney for the operation with the same surgeon and then stay in Sydney. His situation in regard to having an operation and then rejoining the club might be complicated by quarantine requirements I think (both currently in WA and going forward in Qld).

It will be a double blow if the players lose him as an off-field leader as well as losing him as a player.

Good point.

No Joey. No Dane. I'd be looking over my shoulder if I were Luke Parker.

Gould's non appearance so far has had me baffled, on what he did at SANFL level, including the Premiership, he looked a monty for an early debut.

We've got a lot gone for the year now, should be opportunities for more debutants. ...

It sounded from Horse's presser today that we would be seeing more of the younger players, and he specifically mentions Will Gould. I'd be really pleased to see him in the team soon.

[barracuda]

Gould's non appearance so far has had me baffled, on what he did at SANFL level, including the Premiership, he looked a monty for an early debut.

We've got a lot gone for the year now, should be opportunities for more debutants.

Barra, how is Barry O'Connor going in the scratchies?

He had an awesome game early on and then has played solid developmental football. Not AFL ready yet.

[Ludwig]

I checked out Freo's injury list. I didn't realise that their top 3 KPDs are all out injured, plus promising running defender Hayden Young. They have a lot of KPPs. Jesse Hogan is not injured but not playing senior footy, having not kicked a goal in his 3 games this year. They also have Cam McCarthy, who hasn't played since round 1.

They have so many forwards and defenders, but not many midfielders. They're lucky that Mundy is still playing well at 35, as well as drafting ready made mid Caleb Serong, who has had a great start.

Sam Flanders was okay in his 2 games for GC, and also looks ready to play in his first year. We passed up on Serong and Flanders to get Stephens, who is also coming along nicely. The 2019 draft is looking strong so far.

Going to the draft the past couple of years has given us a good crop of players to fill in for our injured stars.

Blakey, Rowbottom, McInerney, Foot, Wicks, Stephens, Gould, Warner and ET*. 9 players in 2 years that can make it. That's a pretty decent haul.

*Opinion pending upon further review.

[rb4x]

I think Horse said we had nine players gone for the year. I can count eight, Rampe, E Taylor, Heeney, Hewett, Naismith, Ronke, Stoddart and Reynolds. I am wondering who the ninth might be. Kennedy, Franklin, Brand, Amartey and Aliir are all injured but not necessarily for the year, Maibaum did not play in the last scratch match and Knoll is just back from a serious injury. Is one of these also ruled out for the year by Horse?

[Ludwig]

I think Horse said we had nine players gone for the year. I can count eight, Rampe, E Taylor, Heeney, Hewett, Naismith, Ronke, Stoddart and Reynolds. I am wondering who the ninth might be. Kennedy, Franklin, Brand, Amartey and Aliir are all injured but not necessarily for the year, Maibaum did not play in the last scratch match and Knoll is just back from a serious injury. Is one of these also ruled out for the year by Horse?

He's probably counting Franklin in the 9.

[Markwebbos]

He's probably counting Franklin in the 9.

On what basis do you make that statement?

[Ludwig]

On what basis do you make that statement?

On the basis that the other possibilities seem likely to be available at some time in the near future and there is he's already 'overdue' for his original projected return date. He's still listed as indefinite with only 6 games remaining.

It's also possible that Longmire is not good at counting.

[Aaron]

https://www.afl.com.au/matches/injury-list updated today has Buddy listed as Indefinite and then 8 others as "Season"

[Aaron]

There is also the possibility of Reid playing in defence, who would add both size and experience. Then we might see someone like Amartey come in to take his place in the forward line.

_ I like this idea. Unfortunately, we don't have much transparency of the "injuries" of Amartey and Aliir mentioned previously.

[stevoswan]

Yes, and I have been fortunate to watch all the scratch matches. Gould is awesome, don't get me wrong, and I hope he debuts. But this year he has not been as quick as rampe or maubaum when his player breaks on the lead. Both rampe and maubaum have the closing speed over a short distance. Gould not quite as much. Yet! Having said all that I would be stoked if he debuted.

Yes, you're probably right there.....I think he's quick once he gets going but not so much off the mark.

[Markwebbos]

On the basis that the other possibilities seem likely to be available at some time in the near future and there is he's already 'overdue' for his original projected return date. He's still listed as indefinite with only 6 games remaining.

It's also possible that Longmire is not good at counting.

I thought the last explanation the most probable.