Round 18: Swans v Cats

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  • Sandrevan
    Warming the Bench
    • May 2016
    • 355

    Originally posted by sharp9
    I don’t know how Mooney and Brereton with all their premierships can know less about football than a soccer player from New Zealand BUT....all their whining about why Hawkins was pinged really pissed me off. It was a clear free kick because the knee to the head was not in the marking contest. He landed on the ground before marking the ball. It had nothing to do with the Toby Greene rule it was an excellent (and brave!) call by the umpire. If anyone is watching the replay listen to the umpire call “it was too early”. Dimwits
    I thought we were lucky to get that free - although if you knee someone in the head...

    Perhaps this decision was the 'even up' for the the incorrect 'in the back' decision earlier where Hawkins was gifted a goal.

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    • Auntie.Gerald
      Veterans List
      • Oct 2009
      • 6474

      good game to watch geelong vs the swans

      judo at its best

      Geelong absorbed our direct play

      we took the game on direct

      yet..........the cats redirected the push and redirected beautifully when it mattered !

      elegant coaching by Scott and elegant absorption by the Cats with counter punch and no match at the siren by us

      reminded me of the many 2-1 victories by many a soccer team that controls a game whether behind or in front during the game but nails iit in the final parts to win
      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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      • Markwebbos
        Veterans List
        • Jul 2016
        • 7186

        Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
        good game to watch geelong vs the swans

        judo at its best

        Geelong absorbed our direct play

        we took the game on direct

        yet..........the cats redirected the push and redirected beautifully when it mattered !

        elegant coaching by Scott and elegant absorption by the Cats with counter punch and no match at the siren by us

        reminded me of the many 2-1 victories by many a soccer team that controls a game whether behind or in front during the game but nails iit in the final parts to win
        That’s not how I saw it. We should have put the game away in the 2nd Q. We were clearly the better side on the day but not on the scoreboard. And they could not defend our ball movement.

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        • Velour&Ruffles
          Regular in the Side
          • Jun 2006
          • 896

          Originally posted by sharp9
          So you think it’s OK to jump up and knee a guy in the head whilst the ball is only half way to the contest and then stand there waiting to take an uncontested mark? Somewhere between the obvious free I have outlined above and Warwick Capper is a line where it becomes illegal. “Too Early” the umpire said because the contact was NOT IN THE MARKING CONTEST. Hawkins was back down on the ground when the ball arrived. You could call it a “shove out” or “two actions” but whichever way it was a definite free kick.
          Well said. 100% correct.
          My opinion is objective truth in its purest form

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          • Auntie.Gerald
            Veterans List
            • Oct 2009
            • 6474

            MW do you mean that the game stopped at half time?

            we were very capable at sling shot footy and or counter punch back in the day.........ie teams might have thought they had us toasted in the first couple or 3 qtrs...........only to be iced when it mattered

            thats sport when you can absorb then penetrate when it matters

            not for us in 2020 but a willing contest which i thoroughly enjoyed despite not being the victor
            "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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            • Thunder Shaker
              Aut vincere aut mori
              • Apr 2004
              • 4161

              Originally posted by mcs
              We've had some shocking performances thrown in, but compared to 2019, I think our 'better' footy has been of a far higher standing - yes we won 3 less games then last year (in a shorter season of course), but I think its been much clearer this year where we are trying to head.
              8/22 = 36.4%
              5/17 = 29.4%

              6/17 = 35.3%, so this year is roughly one game worse than last year and we finished one place lower. We had five losses by less than 10 points and a couple of shockers.

              Getting games into young players is always good, though it's more normal to have fewer young players playing than we were fielding in some games this year.

              Imagine if these cygnets ended up maturing together, all peaking at the same time.
              "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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              • Blood Fever
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2007
                • 4040

                Originally posted by Markwebbos
                That’s not how I saw it. We should have put the game away in the 2nd Q. We were clearly the better side on the day but not on the scoreboard. And they could not defend our ball movement.
                Ignore gobblygook

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                • Markwebbos
                  Veterans List
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 7186

                  Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                  MW do you mean that the game stopped at half time?

                  we were very capable at sling shot footy and or counter punch back in the day.........ie teams might have thought they had us toasted in the first couple or 3 qtrs...........only to be iced when it mattered

                  thats sport when you can absorb then penetrate when it matters

                  not for us in 2020 but a willing contest which i thoroughly enjoyed despite not being the victor
                  I’m saying that we should have kicked 3 or 4 more goals in the second quarter and won the game. Geelong didn’t play clever football, they got lucky.

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                  • Thunder Shaker
                    Aut vincere aut mori
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 4161

                    Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                    And speaking of age, I just had to check, McCartin is still only 20. Another couple of years, and he should be one of comp's best key defenders. Probably had the better of today's duel, with the soon to be crowned Coleman Medallist.
                    McCartin will join the ranks of Swans players recruited as forwards who end up playing distinguished careers in defence. Grundy and Barry being recent examples.
                    "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                    • neilfws
                      Senior Player
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 1818

                      For some reason my son chose this game for his first "distraught and in floods of tears after losing" experience. Maybe knowing it was the last for the year? Maybe after having his last Auskick of the season that morning? Maybe just getting more emotionally invested? Definitely because we both dared to dream that we might steal it.

                      I told him given where the team is at, to take it up to a top 4 team and only lose by a goal, was pretty good. That they'll be better for the experience, and much better next year. And I do believe that!

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                      • MattW
                        Veterans List
                        • May 2011
                        • 4195

                        Originally posted by neilfws
                        For some reason my son chose this game for his first "distraught and in floods of tears after losing" experience. Maybe knowing it was the last for the year? Maybe after having his last Auskick of the season that morning? Maybe just getting more emotionally invested? Definitely because we both dared to dream that we might steal it.

                        I told him given where the team is at, to take it up to a top 4 team and only lose by a goal, was pretty good. That they'll be better for the experience, and much better next year. And I do believe that!
                        I believe that too, but it's a perspective wrought from bitter experience.

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                        • bloodspirit
                          Clubman
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 4448

                          Originally posted by neilfws
                          For some reason my son chose this game for his first "distraught and in floods of tears after losing" experience. Maybe knowing it was the last for the year? Maybe after having his last Auskick of the season that morning? Maybe just getting more emotionally invested? Definitely because we both dared to dream that we might steal it.

                          I told him given where the team is at, to take it up to a top 4 team and only lose by a goal, was pretty good. That they'll be better for the experience, and much better next year. And I do believe that!
                          I had a similar experience. My youngest son has only recently started getting quite interested in footy and the Swans. He is an epic cheerer and barracked energetically and nearly indefatigably all game long, leading chants and claps and jumping around. He found it hard to understand why I wasn't more upset when we lost and I tried to avoid explaining that part of my consolation was getting pick 3.

                          Like you, I focused on explaining we are young and have a bright future. I certainly hope we do. I thought that last year and didn't expect us to finish so low this year. But I do think so. And if we're not playing finals by 2022 I'll be disappointed and think someone has some accounting to do.
                          All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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                          • crackedactor 01
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Jun 2020
                            • 732

                            Originally posted by neilfws
                            For some reason my son chose this game for his first "distraught and in floods of tears after losing" experience. Maybe knowing it was the last for the year? Maybe after having his last Auskick of the season that morning? Maybe just getting more emotionally invested? Definitely because we both dared to dream that we might steal it.

                            I told him given where the team is at, to take it up to a top 4 team and only lose by a goal, was pretty good. That they'll be better for the experience, and much better next year. And I do believe that!
                            Remember they were a top four team with a full team ! none of their regulars were missing. Unlike the Swans with Buddy, Rampe, Heeney, Hewitt all absent. On reflection it was a great effort by a young and upcoming team.

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                            • bloodspirit
                              Clubman
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 4448

                              Geelong v Sydney - The Mongrel Review - The Mongrel Punt

                              The kinda alarming bit that stuck out at me was calling Will Hayward the new Gary Rohan! I love Gazza but I have higher hopes for Will.
                              All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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                              • dimelb
                                pr. dim-melb; m not f
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 6889

                                Thanks for that bloodspirit - never seen this bloke but he's a decent commentator.
                                He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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