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  • dejavoodoo44
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2015
    • 8727

    #16
    Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
    Just checked, Autry recorded it in 1937 which raises two questions
    1) What was sung prior to the Autry crap, and
    2) Did that tune bring to an end the Swans "Golden Era"?
    Which is sort of curious, as I was looking into it and found this link to a Trove page.

    23 Jan 1932 - S.M.F.C. Social Evening - Trove

    It says that a couple of Swans players sang the song with altered lyrics, at a social night in 1932. There was an original 1929 version, but I haven't put myself through listening to that.

    Perhaps we used the social night parody lyrics for the theme song?

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    • BRISWAN
      Warming the Bench
      • Aug 2005
      • 304

      #17
      Here we go with the PC again !!!

      Just let the girls either have their own song or alter the traditional words to suit them.

      We waited 72 years to sing our song....dont mess with history

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      • Ludwig
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2007
        • 9359

        #18
        Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
        Personally, I'd go for something non-gendered, like: while the loyal ones are marching.
        I'd take it one step further so we won't have to change the song again in 2050, changing it to: while the loyal bots are marching.

        This could be the Swans' team photo in 2050:





        It's bemusing that so many are upset if we use the term quarterback, yet it's okay that the team song is a ripoff on the song of a famous American university.

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        • dejavoodoo44
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2015
          • 8727

          #19
          Originally posted by BRISWAN
          Here we go with the PC again !!!

          Just let the girls either have their own song or alter the traditional words to suit them.

          We waited 72 years to sing our song....dont mess with history
          Not sure if you've learnt much from history. If somebody hadn't messed with history in 1961, we'd still have that godawful Springtime in the Rockies as our theme song.

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          • dejavoodoo44
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2015
            • 8727

            #20
            Originally posted by Ludwig
            I'd take it one step further so we won't have to change the song again in 2050, changing it to: while the loyal bots are marching.

            This could be the Swans' team photo in 2050:





            It's bemusing that so many are upset if we use the term quarterback, yet it's okay that the team song is a ripoff on the song of a famous American university.
            Yes, earlier in the thread, I was going to mention, that with all the great songwriters in Australia, we could probably do better than a knock off of an American college marching tune. But I thought that I'd better take it one word at a time. From sons, to ones, to bots, and finally, the new world order.

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            • Captain
              Captain of the Side
              • Feb 2004
              • 3602

              #21
              Originally posted by BRISWAN
              Here we go with the PC again !!!

              Just let the girls either have their own song or alter the traditional words to suit them.

              We waited 72 years to sing our song....dont mess with history
              This. Absolutely this.

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              • The Runner
                Regular in the Side
                • May 2017
                • 718

                #22
                Originally posted by BRISWAN
                Here we go with the PC again !!!

                Just let the girls either have their own song or alter the traditional words to suit them.

                We waited 72 years to sing our song....dont mess with history
                Why does caring about others feeling included get classes as political correctness? This isn't a political issue, it's a song with lyrics that have dated.

                And has anyone worked out why the "her" is in the song?

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                • Markwebbos
                  Veterans List
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 7186

                  #23
                  Didn’t we just change the national anthem to make it more inclusive?

                  My suggestion is “lovely buns”. Works for both genders.

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                  • liz
                    Veteran
                    Site Admin
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 16786

                    #24
                    Originally posted by The Runner

                    And has anyone worked out why the "her" is in the song?
                    See post 9.

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                    • Meg
                      Go Swannies!
                      Site Admin
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 4828

                      #25
                      Team Song - time to update?

                      The line under discussion actually seems to be a non sequitur.

                      Swans will go in and win over all
                      While her loyal sons are marching
                      Onwards to victory!

                      How do the Swans “go in and win” if they are busily marching?

                      So I suggest:

                      Swans will go in and win over all
                      While our loyal fans are cheering
                      Onwards to victory!

                      Makes more sense and solves the sons/daughters issue ......i

                      Ps: it’s actually the Notre Dame band that does the marching not the players.

                      Last edited by Meg; 23 February 2021, 05:41 AM.

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                      • MattW
                        Veterans List
                        • May 2011
                        • 4231

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Meg
                        The line under discussion actually seems to be a non sequitur.

                        Swans will go in and win over all
                        While her loyal sons are marching
                        Onwards to victory!

                        How do the Swans “go in and win” if they are busily marching?

                        So I suggest:

                        Swans will go in and win over all
                        While our loyal fans are cheering
                        Onwards to victory!

                        Makes more sense and solves the sons/daughters issue ......i

                        Ps: it’s actually the Notre Dame band that does the marching not the players.

                        Notre Dame Victory March - YouTube
                        Agreed - the use of 'sons' in the first line of the original song suggests the reference to 'sons' is actually to supporters:

                        "Rally sons of Notre Dame
                        Sing her glory and sound her fame
                        Raise her Gold and Blue
                        And cheer with voices true"

                        Your change is great - someone email Tom.

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                        • stevoswan
                          Veterans List
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 8573

                          #27
                          Originally posted by BRISWAN
                          Here we go with the PC again !!!
                          Originally posted by Captain
                          This. Absolutely this.
                          It so easy to reject a 'belief' because it seems 'over the top'. Just remember that the original tenet of PC was for everyone to respect everyone else, for the majority to respect and embrace the marginalised minorities......before it was hijacked by certain minority extremists who don't seem to know when to stop. It was these occasional extreme actions which had people suddenly yelling "that's PC gone too far!" or "that's PC bull@@@@!"....and in some cases that may have been true. It did the PC cause no favours, turning people against what they saw as left wing touchy feely crap.....but at it's core, PC is a worthy societal pursuit.

                          There's always the extreme who will attempt to exploit any situation, sometimes actually shooting themselves in the foot in doing so. But there is nothing inherently wrong with PC.....it is all about respect and there is nothing wrong with that. We just have to slightly tweak our mindset.....ie: stop thinking that any societal change is a challenge to your rights or will make your life worse off in some way.....and instead think, 'if it leads to more people in society being happy and content with their life, that can only be a good thing'. It's pretty simple really.....

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                          • jono2707
                            Goes up to 11
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 3326

                            #28
                            Originally posted by BRISWAN
                            Here we go with the PC again !!!

                            Just let the girls either have their own song or alter the traditional words to suit them.

                            We waited 72 years to sing our song....dont mess with history
                            Seems like I missed that 72 year period when we didn't win a single match. What a dark period in our history - no wonder we never mention it.

                            So someone raising the very good point that the women's team should perhaps have an alternative to singing 'sons' triggers such anger?

                            I for one am on the side of keeping the words as is for the men, and adjusting slightly and suitably for the women. No dramas from me.

                            Now if someone starts trying to stop us from shaking down the thunder from the sky, then I'll lose it.......

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                            • Ludwig
                              Veterans List
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9359

                              #29
                              Thankfully, I'm so senile I can only hum the song. Humming is so inclusive.

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                              • KTigers
                                Senior Player
                                • Apr 2012
                                • 2499

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Ludwig
                                Thankfully, I'm so senile I can only hum the song. Humming is so inclusive.
                                By ignoring the club song for the last 35 or so years I have found myself "included" in the largest group of Swans
                                supporters of all, those that couldn't care less about it. It's great to be part of something again.

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