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  • liz
    Veteran
    Site Admin
    • Jan 2003
    • 16770

    Swans chat 2021 Swans Academy thread

    I don't think we yet have a 2021 Swans Academy thread, so I thought I'd kick one off with a question:

    - where on earth does one find information about the academy fixtures for this season?

    If we think the Swans are tight with information about the EFL team (I can't bring myself to refer to it as the VFL), it's even worse when it comes to the U19 Academy side. AFL360 highlighted this evening that the NAB Cup (for the Victorian u19s) starts this weekend, so I figured maybe the Academy series might also be soon underway. But I can't find anything.

    I did notice that the northern academies teams' involvement in the NAB Cup seems to have been cut back to a single game for each - all in late May. It's a bit of a shame that this has been cut down from the three games they each got in 2019, especially after Kevin Sheehan indicated he'd like to see their participation increased, but I guess we have to make some short-term allowances for living in a COVID-affected environment. Maybe the ongoing uncertainly dissuaded them from fixturing more than those single games for this season.

    Is there anyone with an inside track to the academy set-up that has any idea when we might start to see our U19 team play competitive matches?
  • dejavoodoo44
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2015
    • 8626

    #2
    Originally posted by liz
    I don't think we yet have a 2021 Swans Academy thread, so I thought I'd kick one off with a question:

    - where on earth does one find information about the academy fixtures for this season?

    If we think the Swans are tight with information about the EFL team (I can't bring myself to refer to it as the VFL), it's even worse when it comes to the U19 Academy side. AFL360 highlighted this evening that the NAB Cup (for the Victorian u19s) starts this weekend, so I figured maybe the Academy series might also be soon underway. But I can't find anything.

    I did notice that the northern academies teams' involvement in the NAB Cup seems to have been cut back to a single game for each - all in late May. It's a bit of a shame that this has been cut down from the three games they each got in 2019, especially after Kevin Sheehan indicated he'd like to see their participation increased, but I guess we have to make some short-term allowances for living in a COVID-affected environment. Maybe the ongoing uncertainly dissuaded them from fixturing more than those single games for this season.

    Is there anyone with an inside track to the academy set-up that has any idea when we might start to see our U19 team play competitive matches?
    I know, it's all a mystery to me, too. The best I can offer, is to keep an eye on the Swans academy Facebook page, as they usually give streaming details, a week or so before a game.

    I'm a bit disappointed that we aren't really a part of the NAB League, since I think that the wins against a few Victorian teams in 2019, probably helped the development of our players. Though I suppose games against the other academy sides will perform a similar function. Assuming that we play against Brisbane and Gold Coast, and not just a couple of games against GWS?

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    • Mr Magoo
      Senior Player
      • May 2008
      • 1255

      #3
      Its actually quite a limited timetable this year -
      1. Intraclub - 15 April
      2. two trial games against GWS on 24 April (Canberra) and 8 May (BISP)
      3. Three nab league games all in melbourne - Geelong 22 may, Dandenong 29 May, Nth Knights 5 June

      Allies then dont happen until July / August.

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      • dejavoodoo44
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        • Apr 2015
        • 8626

        #4
        Originally posted by Mr Magoo
        Its actually quite a limited timetable this year -
        1. Intraclub - 15 April
        2. two trial games against GWS on 24 April (Canberra) and 8 May (BISP)
        3. Three nab league games all in melbourne - Geelong 22 may, Dandenong 29 May, Nth Knights 5 June

        Allies then dont happen until July / August.
        Handy that we're playing a few NAB League games.

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        • Mr Magoo
          Senior Player
          • May 2008
          • 1255

          #5
          Yeah definitely but compared to pre covid when they played all the other academies plus about six nab games plus the opportunity to play in NEAFL its quite a bit more limited. I guess the upside is that the Sydney Prems and U19s comps get a fair boost of talent.

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          • Ludwig
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2007
            • 9359

            #6
            Luke Parks will be selected by Carlton this week. So the Academy is now producing players for other AFL clubs. It's another reason to keep the academies.

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            • KTigers
              Senior Player
              • Apr 2012
              • 2499

              #7
              At this rate Carlton's entire list will have a NSW connection within a few years. I'm not sure if that is good or bad.

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              • dejavoodoo44
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                • Apr 2015
                • 8626

                #8
                Originally posted by Mr Magoo
                Yeah definitely but compared to pre covid when they played all the other academies plus about six nab games plus the opportunity to play in NEAFL its quite a bit more limited. I guess the upside is that the Sydney Prems and U19s comps get a fair boost of talent.
                And I'd assume that boosting the Sydney competition would be one of the aims of the academy. With the number of academy graduates scattered around the comp, it's probably working to some degree.

                - - - Updated - - -

                Originally posted by Ludwig
                Luke Parks will be selected by Carlton this week. So the Academy is now producing players for other AFL clubs. It's another reason to keep the academies.
                In a few years time, we might even benefit from go home factor.

                - - - Updated - - -

                Originally posted by KTigers
                At this rate Carlton's entire list will have a NSW connection within a few years. I'm not sure if that is good or bad.
                As long as it's mainly GWS cast offs, I won't mind.

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                • aardvark
                  Veterans List
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 5685

                  #9
                  U/17 & U/19 Boys playing Saturday Live Stream.

                  Under 17 Male Academy - GSW Giants v Sydney Swans - YouTube 12.30 pm

                  Under 19 Male Academy - GSW Giants v Sydney Swans - YouTube 14.45 pm

                  Enjoy!

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                  • liz
                    Veteran
                    Site Admin
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 16770

                    #10
                    Hmmm...might be otherwise occupied at the times of the live streams. Hopefully they'll be available to watch on replay.

                    Thanks for the heads up that the games are on.

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                    • aardvark
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                      • Mar 2010
                      • 5685

                      #11
                      Originally posted by liz
                      Hmmm...might be otherwise occupied at the times of the live streams. Hopefully they'll be available to watch on replay.

                      Thanks for the heads up that the games are on.
                      I might record the Seniors and make a day of it. Some nibbles, a nice bottle of something and a few Swans wins!

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                      • Mr Magoo
                        Senior Player
                        • May 2008
                        • 1255

                        #12
                        Originally posted by aardvark
                        I might record the Seniors and make a day of it. Some nibbles, a nice bottle of something and a few Swans wins!
                        Unfortunately no swans wins - u19s beaten by 31 points , u17 by a goal on the siren.

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                        • aardvark
                          Veterans List
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 5685

                          #13
                          Seems the games are still available on you tube at the above links if anyone wants to watch.

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                          • bloodspirit
                            Clubman
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 4448

                            #14
                            “We’re not doing a good enough job”: Crouch dispels Sydney Academy myths (sen.com.au)
                            All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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                            • Blood Fever
                              Veterans List
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 4048

                              #15
                              Excellent interview. Host does an outstanding and surprisingly positive job. Helped that he had lived in Brisbane and Sydney and hasn't had the total Victorian brainwashing. Sam Hargreaves is his name. Hope he doesn't get ostracized by his colleagues!

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