Pre-match Discussion: Round 4 V Bombers @SCG

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  • Thunder Shaker
    Aut vincere aut mori
    • Apr 2004
    • 4150


    Negative: selection dilemma.
    "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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    • The Runner
      Regular in the Side
      • May 2017
      • 718

      Originally posted by TheBloods
      It was his run off HB, exciting to watch. If others had done what he was doing people would be giving him the Skilton already
      He had 1 rebound 50 for the game.
      I like J Mac. I'm not fully convinced on his defensive capabilities. He'll be a great line breaking ball user for us. But at the moment, he's 23rd in the queue.

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      • Ludwig
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2007
        • 9359

        Originally posted by The Runner
        He had 1 rebound 50 for the game.
        It may have only been 1 R50, but it was elite, to be sure.

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        • Bexl
          Regular in the Side
          • Jan 2003
          • 817

          Originally posted by The Runner
          20 touches at 60%, 0 tackles, 2 one percenters, is hardly elite. He was good, but settle down
          The Bloods loves Mcinerney and Stephens which is fine but the thing is when R B has 20 touches at 80% 5 tackles 3 marks and 2 goals The Bloods says he is over rated. I don't know why ANYBODY responds to his posts they are ALL insanely biased.

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          • 707
            Veterans List
            • Aug 2009
            • 6204

            Originally posted by southsideswan
            I remember the elimination final in 2017. 2nd quarter .. we kicked 10 goals. It was breathtaking!!!
            I was in the front row of the first deck between the goal and point post at our second quarter end, the blitz unfolded just below me in front of a packed bay of Bomber supporters - bliss!

            This is a danger game

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            • caj23
              Senior Player
              • Aug 2003
              • 2462

              We will account for them comfortably. They are an ordinary team with the worst midfield in the league who managed to have a day out against another ordinary team

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              • TheBloods
                Suspended by the MRP
                • Feb 2020
                • 2047

                GReat the big fella is back

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                • Aaron
                  Regular in the Side
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 805

                  Just one change:
                  Hayden McLean makes way for Lance Franklin.

                  Harry Cunningham Dane Rampe Braeden Campbell
                  Jordan Dawson Tom McCartin Jake Lloyd
                  Ollie Florent Luke Parke Nick Blakey
                  Isaac Heeney Logan McDonald Sam Wicks
                  Tom Papley Lance Franklin Sam Reid
                  Tom Hickey Callum Mill Josh Kennedy
                  I/C: George Hewett Chad Warner Justin McInerney Errol Gulden

                  Emergencies
                  James Bell Will Hayward Lewis Melican Callum Sinclair
                  Last edited by Aaron; 7 April 2021, 07:06 PM.

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                  • Thunder Shaker
                    Aut vincere aut mori
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 4150

                    Syd: IN: Franklin, OUT: McLean, Bell.
                    Ess: IN: Heppell. OUT: Redman, Cutler.

                    Since the 2017 game when we beat them by a point, both sides have turned over a lot of players.

                    Players who will play both games:
                    Sydney: Isaac Heeney, Tom Papley, Josh P. Kennedy, Oliver Florent, Callum Mills, Sam Reid, Lance Franklin, Dane Rampe, Luke Parker, George Hewett, Jake Lloyd (11).
                    Essendon: Andrew McGrath, Kyle Langford, Zach Merrett, Dyson Heppell, Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti (5).
                    "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                    • MattW
                      Veterans List
                      • May 2011
                      • 4193

                      Originally posted by O'Reilly Boy
                      I agree. I watched the game again and had the same response. He presented well, and got a long way up the ground. Didn't necessarily clunk marks, but brought the ball to ground, where the smalls were all over it. I think that he is a better retain than McLean at this stage, although McLean doesn't really deserve to be dropped.

                      On McInerney—I worry that again we are falling into the trap of relying too much on disposal stats to measure the value of his game. In the past Rohan, Cunningham, Jetta, and even, for a period, Lloyd, were punished on this forum because they were playing low-possession outside games, where much of the work they do goes unregistered. Running up and down the fatside wing can be pretty thankless, but simply taking up the space and denying an easy exit, for example, is part of team play.

                      FLorent's game was terrific on the weekend. A couple of outstanding flat, bullet-like passes, and lots of great link play. He must be loving the new style.

                      And props to Harry Cunningham. The new Nick Smith, with extra added speed.
                      My comments on McInerney made no reference to possession numbers, and I didn't see any comments which did.

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                      • mcs
                        Travelling Swannie!!
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 8149

                        Originally posted by TheBloods
                        It was his run off HB, exciting to watch. If others had done what he was doing people would be giving him the Skilton already


                        So the stats almost universally used to measure overall performance in that position say he had a good game but nothing near 'elite', but being 'exciting to watch' is all it takes to be elite.

                        I swear if your not a salesman in real life, you should be. Your ability to turn and twist every which way is quite astounding....

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                        Originally posted by Thunder Shaker
                        We got to be doing something right if that is the most pressing negative they can come up with!

                        Originally posted by SwanSand
                        I was watching the OTC vision on our defensive structure of pushing hard and leaving your man and going forward and manning up. I don’t know if this was specifically designed for Richmond or its ever present in all games.
                        But this will be exploited by opposition at some stage as this will result in some mismatch in the defensive half and maybe teams will start switching play through the corridor with a hard running HB.
                        Will be interesting to see if we have subtle change in plan for Essendon.
                        Will be interesting to see. I don't think the Bombers are probably anywhere near good enough to exploit the potential vulnerability, but other teams will be. But I liked the tactical flexibility we showed elsewhere against Richmond on Saturday (in particular shifting to short accurate kicks) so I'm hopeful we are developing a nice ability to 'change on the way' through.
                        "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                        • Captain
                          Captain of the Side
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 3602

                          No surprises with just the one change.

                          Ridiculous calls by some to rest the kids and/or drop Blakey.

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                          • giant
                            Veterans List
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 4731

                            Originally posted by Thunder Shaker
                            Syd: IN: Franklin, OUT: McLean, Bell.
                            Ess: IN: Heppell. OUT: Redman, Cutler.

                            Since the 2017 game when we beat them by a point, both sides have turned over a lot of players.

                            Players who will play both games:
                            Sydney: Isaac Heeney, Tom Papley, Josh P. Kennedy, Oliver Florent, Callum Mills, Sam Reid, Lance Franklin, Dane Rampe, Luke Parker, George Hewett, Jake Lloyd (11).
                            Essendon: Andrew McGrath, Kyle Langford, Zach Merrett, Dyson Heppell, Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti (5).
                            That's extraordinary turnover for the Bombers - not all of it wanted/planned.

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                            • Aprilbr
                              Senior Player
                              • Oct 2016
                              • 1803

                              I wonder if Rowbottom failed a fitness test again and so they left him out or they just decided not to bring him in given its a winning team?

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                              • giant
                                Veterans List
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 4731

                                Originally posted by SwanSand
                                I was watching the OTC vision on our defensive structure of pushing hard and leaving your man and going forward and manning up. I don’t know if this was specifically designed for Richmond or its ever present in all games.
                                But this will be exploited by opposition at some stage as this will result in some mismatch in the defensive half and maybe teams will start switching play through the corridor with a hard running HB.
                                Will be interesting to see if we have subtle change in plan for Essendon.
                                If Richmond had kicked properly a few times, it could have been exploited on Saturday. I've seen examples of it in rounds 1&2, but this was its most pronounced use - I suspect it was especially for the Tigers and/or MCG circumstances, but we'll continue to see it used sporadically.

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