Changes for Round 5: Swans vs GWS

[dimelb]

Pardon if someone has already raised this, but there was an incident where Buddy marked the ball and was all set to line up on the posts when the umpire called play on and Buddy got jumped.
Do others recall this? Buddy was very put out but had to abide by the ruling. Another goal was all we ever wanted!

[bloodspirit]

According to AFL Player Ratings (which are not perfect, but much better than Fantasy points, based on Champion Data) Melican was second best Swan and third best on ground behind Buddy and Mummy.

https://twitter.com/AFLPlayerRating/status/1383354450635460611?s=19

[aardvark]

According to AFL Player Ratings (which are not perfect, but much better than Fantasy points, based on Champion Data) Melican was second best Swan and third best on ground behind Buddy and Mummy.

https://twitter.com/AFLPlayerRating/...635460611?s=19

Except for two very ordinary kicks I thought he was all right.

[bloodspirit]

Except for two very ordinary kicks I thought he was all right.

What's especially interesting is that he got better and better as the game wore on. Either that or it was coming in a lot more and he just had more to do.

[giant]

Spot on Nico. We played disjointed footy. They made us look silly at times and our pressure was not there at all. Yes, we’re a young ream but let’s not make excuses and call it what it is- listless!
Hope our coaches let them know that this is not on. I can count only about 6 players who deserved to play for the Bloods, and the best was our oldest in Buddy, with special mention to Joey who tried his heart out.

GWS killed us everywhere bar the scoreboard.

Learn the lesson, Swannies!

I'm afraid that's dead set rubbish. Our pressure was excellent all night - our execution and decision-making let us down at crucial times and as a result we lost by 2 pts after leading most of the match. Lessons will be learned, and hopefully by some of our more excitable supporters as well.

[monopoly19]

Pretty poor to drop this one. GWS had a lot of outs. We lost Hickey late but didnt change much.

Can melican never play again ??

Losing your ruck matters a lot when your back up ruck has to leave the field for a few minutes at the end of a game we lost by two points! Hickey being on the field could have easily been the difference.

[Ruck'n'Roll]

Not sure I understand all the Melican hate. A couple of poor kicks but some quite good moments as well - overall a comfortable pass mark.
He was by no means the only Swans player who kicked it to the opposition. The problem was our on-ballers were beaten (despite Hickey's best efforts when on the ground) and we reverted to a much stodgier game style. Those things are not Melican's fault.

He took 7 marks and spoiled effectively plenty of times. His disposal clangers were the result of him trying to pinpoint passes in the PykedSwans style, and it looked very much like he's not up to that. He might be better off if Dawson or Lloyd was running off him for the handball, which should be easier now with all these scarecrows minding the mark. Unfortunately it just didn't seem to happen yesterday.

[bloodspirit]

I like these weekly ratings written by someone who knows our team: Player ratings: Sydney Swans vs GWS Giants, Round 5, 2021.

[mcs]

Great idea. The grand old lady is just down the road, waiting, patiently.

You've got your scarf piled up alongside your free tickets haven't you Barry, yearning for the day of free entry to swans games?

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At the game it just felt like we never got any rhythm or flow. Without watching the replay, I don’t know if that was because of us or because of GWS. I kept thinking we’d break the shackles at any moment and get out to a 30+ point lead but it just never happened. Ultimately, we got beaten around the ball by their bulls. Tom Green is going to be some player.

I thought Warner and Gulden were not bad and showed glimpses but below their best. Campbell and McDonald looked a step back. Wicks was almost unsighted. It’s not to be unexpected though - any players under 10 games are more likely to be in your bottom 6 than your top.

I was happy for Hayward. He cops a hiding here - even when he kicks 3 goals, people find a way to blame him. It really seemed like it was him, Buddy or bust last night. GWS must’ve done a much better job clogging gals and manning up because we just couldn’t get the marks inside 50 that we have been able to in previous games.

Overall, let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water. We are 4-1 and take on a ruck-less Gold Coast next week.

Thank goodness its gold coast next week. Sinclair in the parts of the reserves game I watched while in the passenger seat on the drive up battled away but didn't do much at all to be honest. But he has always been a player that takes a bit of time to wind up. I can't see any option but to pick him next week, but should hopefully be able to be relatively dominant in the ruck against Gold Coast hopefully.

I thought Campbell was the best of the younger guys last night, although part of a backline well below its best overall.

[mcs]

Losing your ruck matters a lot when your back up ruck has to leave the field for a few minutes at the end of a game we lost by two points! Hickey being on the field could have easily been the difference.

Baby and bathwater with that particular poster.

To be frank, we should of been comfortably beaten - their kicking for goal kept us in it. But losing Hickey, and then Reid at a critical point hurt. And then when we did find a way out a couple of times (in particular what appeared from 20 metres away to be a perfectly good contested mark by Blakey ruled as play on when that could have really been a 'circuit break), we just didn't get the rub of the green when it mattered.

One of those nights where we never really got going, but could have snuck the game. We were lucky to win last week against the Bombers, a little unlucky to lose this week. But that's footy and the vast majority of us I think felt we were likely to be fairly inconsistent this year. Could be a tough few weeks without Heeney, Rampe, Hickey. But a good test also for the younger guys - we can't expect to play every week like we did in week 1 to 3, but we've been thrown the gauntlet the last two weeks, and as a collective have to find a way to counter the tactics that teams will play against us. Only the very, very best teams ultimately are able to impose their style onto a contest and more often then not play the game on their terms. As good as our first 3 weeks were style wise, we are still a very young, developing team and building the ability to do that takes plenty of time and experience. What we have seen though in those first 3 rounds is that, if we do reach a point of consistency in that regard over time, we have a game plan that will definitely work, be good to watch (for those that prefer style over substance out there) and will deliver results. Its a big if - but we are at the start of the journey, not the end.

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He took 7 marks and spoiled effectively plenty of times. His disposal clangers were the result of him trying to pinpoint passes in the PykedSwans style, and it looked very much like he's not up to that. He might be better off if Dawson or Lloyd was running off him for the handball, which should be easier now with all these scarecrows minding the mark. Unfortunately it just didn't seem to happen yesterday.

He is an old fashioned style defender, not necessarily suited to being a 'do it all defender'. I've always thought he can play a role, but its important we frame the role in a way he can fulfill it too. He had a couple of bad moments last night, but you could say that about almost everyone on the park last night in red and white. And he has never been a player that just comes in and 'fires' - has always taken him a few games to get going after a break (usually injury caused).

[barry]

Pretty poor to drop this one. GWS had a lot of outs.

GWS are a better team with the outs in my opinion. Whitfield is about the only one who should walk back in.

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You've got your scarf piled up alongside your free tickets haven't you Barry, yearning for the day of free entry to swans games?

Certainly not free.

[barry]

I like these weekly ratings written by someone who knows our team: Player ratings: Sydney Swans vs GWS Giants, Round 5, 2021.

I don't think buddy was the best player. Sure, he got goals, but Taylor was also one of the best giants. Out-marked him a few times. Great duel.

[greeng]

Franklin just gets in the way.

[Ludwig]

Thank goodness its gold coast next week.

We lost 2 pf the last 3 times we've played them.

[neilfws]

We lost 2 pf the last 3 times we've played them.

Suns always feels like a danger game to me, Swans get complacent and I always wonder how much "Dew's inside knowledge" counts.

Still, a 9-2 record overall and never lost at Carrara!