Match Thread: Swans v Demons.

[TheBloods]

He played better than Chad last night....not that Chad played bad, he just didn't play as well as RB....sore ribs and all. Credit where it's due TB instead of this stubborn and relentless doubling down on your stupidity on RB. I don't ever expect you to back down, it doesn't seem to be in your nature but some maturity on the subject would be refreshing.

Sorry what does Chad have to do with it ? My comment was about a dog act on Rowbottom

[Bangalore Swans]

I’m sorry, I don’t like it when umpires continually make bad decisions.

This happened didn’t it??

As you say umpires are humans - last time I looked so are players.

But to appease you we should trade Papley - yeah rightio.

Papley’s behaviour towards umpires has to improve. Last year he was fined $500 for staging. Last night he abused an umpire and gave a 50m penalty away.

I know most people on here are huge Papley supporters and probably blame the umpires for Papley’s behaviour.

I think in fact it’s become “Swanism” to blame umpires and AFL house if things are not working out.

[joeykanga]

Hands down the most annoying poster on here with your smug holier than thou attitudes...So glad to have Papley in our team with his spirit and personality ...he doesn’t need watering down ...on the other hand maybe you do ...
You annoy me everytime you post

[stevoswan]

Sorry what does Chad have to do with it ? My comment was about a dog act on Rowbottom

I think you know exactly what I mean.....you're a Chad fan boy as we all are so I thought I'd point out something you may not be aware of due to you're prejudice.....and I just don't think it's wise or kind to start any sentence with "I don't think much of him as a player" when writing about a Swan with copious talent and determination and everything that embodies 'The Bloods' ethos. Fair enough?

[stevoswan]

I think in fact it’s become “Swanism” to blame umpires and AFL house if things are not working out.

Seriously pathetic comment. Just know that if you keep defending the umpires and the AFL, it's a battle you will lose.....because in regard to the Swans, your argument is in reality, deluded.

[Wardy]

Papley’s behaviour towards umpires has to improve. Last year he was fined $500 for staging. Last night he abused an umpire and gave a 50m penalty away.

I know most people on here are huge Papley supporters and probably blame the umpires for Papley’s behaviour.

I think in fact it’s become “Swanism” to blame umpires and AFL house if things are not working out.

The fact is Papley isn’t a dirty player, yep he has lost his cool a few times just like 75% of other players in the competition - just because he doesn’t live up to your lofty standards is not a reason to trade him.

[Bangalore Swans]

Hands down the most annoying poster on here with your smug holier than thou attitudes...So glad to have Papley in our team with his spirit and personality ...he doesn’t need watering down ...on the other hand maybe you do ...
You annoy me everytime you post

Appreciate your feedback. For the record I think Papley is an excellent footballer who plays with great effort and intensity.

I just have a gripe with footballers who get on the wrong side of officials. I really liked Zak Jones but then he started giving away silly reverse free kicks and got on the wrong side of officials.

[crackedactor 01]

Papley’s behaviour towards umpires has to improve. Last year he was fined $500 for staging. Last night he abused an umpire and gave a 50m penalty away.

I know most people on here are huge Papley supporters and probably blame the umpires for Papley’s behaviour.

I think in fact it’s become “Swanism” to blame umpires and AFL house if things are not working out.

Do you know what he actually said? Rumour has it he said " You must be Joking" If this is the case I would heap the blame on the umpire for being too precious.

[TheBloods]

I think you know exactly what I mean.....you're a Chad fan boy as we all are so I thought I'd point out something you may not be aware of due to you're prejudice.....and I just don't think it's wise or kind to start any sentence with "I don't think much of him as a player" when writing about a Swan with copious talent and determination and everything that embodies 'The Bloods' ethos. Fair enough?

You might not think its wise but its my opinion. & one i think is being proven. The talent gulf between someone like Chad and him is clear. But i will indulge you .. what copious talent does he have ? I think you might be right that he has determination. ive even said he would make a good tagger. Strong tackler. I would maybe move him to HBF instead of o'riordan to play a defensive role. I reckon he'd carve a fine career in the red&white in that position. I know you will think im hating on him - im not i just dont see the midfield talent in him. In fact i would like to see him succeed and tihnk his best chances of doing so are in a defensive role where he can be accountable for an opponent without having to win as much of the ball or do much with it. Other than that im not sure what he offers in the midfield.

[Nico]

Appreciate your feedback. For the record I think Papley is an excellent footballer who plays with great effort and intensity.

I just have a gripe with footballers who get on the wrong side of officials. I really liked Zak Jones but then he started giving away silly reverse free kicks and got on the wrong side of officials.

If you have umpired a game at senior level you will understand that every player mouths off at the Umps. AFL, VFL, Amateurs and suburban footy. No decision is correct, whingeing about everything and anything that comes into their minds and any goal/point decision is wrong. Yep, players are so good at being right that they can be 30 metres out from goal and call a close goal/point decision when kicked from an acute angle at goal post height. Haven't you noticed that when a defender or forward gets out marked that they stretch their jumper to say they were held. So it's folly to single a player out for his antics.

[SwanSand]

Possibly due to Melbourne's disciplined defensive set up? We don't always have a choice. The same applies to all those complaining about us 'bombing it in'.....we don't always have a choice. Sometimes the opposition has a say in this.

Completely agree that we don’t always have a choice and sometimes the players decide to take territory. I think bombing it in is fine but we just need to prevent intercept marks and easy exits. Unfortunately we missed Sam Reid and Heeney in that role of extra marking target.

[Nico]

Completely agree that we don’t always have a choice and sometimes the players decide to take territory. I think bombing it in is fine but we just need to prevent intercept marks and easy exits. Unfortunately we missed Sam Reid and Heeney in that role of extra marking target.

As I said last night, Melbourne defence set up across our 30 metre zone, so you could see our players looking for someone to run to space but there was no space. In the end they had no option but to bomb it long. When we did manage to get the ball in quickly we looked dangerous. Something we need to correct.

[liz]

Completely agree that we don’t always have a choice and sometimes the players decide to take territory. I think bombing it in is fine but we just need to prevent intercept marks and easy exits. Unfortunately we missed Sam Reid and Heeney in that role of extra marking target.

I reckon one of the things the team did pretty well yesterday was preventing intercept marks. In that regard, the coaches' decision to play an extra tall paid reasonable dividends. We couldn't mark in the forward 50 but we did keep it in our forward half quite well, especially in the second half. Unfortunately, our ground level players just weren't able to manufacture much at ground level.

The Dees similarly weren't great at ground level in their forward 50. They beat us in the air, but our small and medium defenders did an exceptional job of limiting scores by other means.

[Kafka's Ghost]

I reckon one of the things the team did pretty well yesterday was preventing intercept marks. In that regard, the coaches' decision to play an extra tall paid reasonable dividends. We couldn't mark in the forward 50 but we did keep it in our forward half quite well, especially in the second half. Unfortunately, our ground level players just weren't able to manufacture much at ground level.

The Dees similarly weren't great at ground level in their forward 50. They beat us in the air, but our small and medium defenders did an exceptional job of limiting scores by other means.

Excellent observation, Liz. Their great intercept mark, Jake Lever, took one mark for the match, and had 6 touches. In that respect, the much-maligned Sinclair really did his job.
On a side note, having watched a couple of today’s games, and the marks that were paid, McLean should have been awarded his two grabs last night.

[liz]

On a side note, having watched a couple of today’s games, and the marks that were paid, McLean should have been awarded his two grabs last night.

He probably held them longer than two or three of the ones he was paid against Geelong. At least one seemed to be knocked out of his hands after he'd controlled the ball, and another there was a very slight arm chop.