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  • Mark26
    Senior Player
    • Jan 2017
    • 1535

    #46
    Originally posted by Blood Fever
    Are TB and BS two characters from the one play?
    Waiting for Godot is my guess.

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    • AnnieH
      RWOs Black Sheep
      • Aug 2006
      • 11332

      #47
      Brilliant Ludwig.
      I expect nothing less.

      I feel for the Lizard... he's a really nice bloke.
      At first I thought he'd gotten the gig because his father was assistant coach.
      Last year, the boy looked like he had promise!!
      I don't know if it's the second year blues OR are we looking at shades of Dean Towers.
      The brain fade shepherd in front of our goals in the final minutes on Saturday night did it for me.
      That was a tackle and a goal just waiting to happen!!
      Disappointed.
      Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
      Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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      • NeonBible
        Warming the Bench
        • Mar 2021
        • 280

        #48
        Originally posted by mcs
        Interesting through Neon.

        I guess my thoughts is not every player is cut out to be a 'chad' or a Papley or the like in terms of having that extreme level of self-confidence/natural leadership (in terms of geeing up and lifting a team etc) - and that is perfectly fine, because I don't think every player needs to be like that either - I don't subscribe to a theory that you need it become a 'special' player either, although undoubtedly it can help in taking that final step.

        I just think its a broader reflection that people mature as 'people' in different ways and at different speeds - and for some that sort of role will never be natural, for some it will develop later as they build confidence in their ability to match it at the top level, and for some it is there from day dot. No different to any cross-sectional group from any part of the community - and the beauty of any team game is you need a mix of players with different strengths to be able to become a champion team. I don't subscribe to any concept that there some form of 'model player' everyone must aspire to be, or that a team must have 'x of this, y of that, z of something else' to succeed either.
        Hear hear mcs. It truly does come down to the individual player! For example Cunners doesnt need to have much arrogance. His role is one built on focus and discipline in stopping the best small fwd each week!

        I say that lack of arrogance might be a hindrance for Rowbottom because he is in the team as a bullocking midfielder. His game will be based around his ability to win the hard ball and crash packs, break into the clear and take the game and the opponent on! Leave them in his dust! The kinds of things Chad is currently doing and impressing with! He cant afford to be passive and let others around him do all the flashy stuff, he must take the onus upon himself!

        Watching him the last few weeks there is a passiveness to him. Hes very serious and he looks unsure with the ball. It is fine to be modest and subsequently be modest with your possessions, which he seems to be doing at the moment - focusing more on getting the ball to those around him rather than doing much with it himself. But if he doesnt learn to back himself to seize the moments more he could end up no more than an accumulator. & TheBloods might be right that he doesnt find the ball enough to be an accumulator which means he needs to learn to be an impact player! And if there is one thing i dont want, its for TheBloods to be right!

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        • Ludwig
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2007
          • 9359

          #49
          Originally posted by AnnieH
          I feel for the Lizard
          Last year, the boy looked like he had promise!!
          I don't know if it's the second year blues.
          You know something must be wrong when you get the second year blues in your third year.

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          • stevoswan
            Veterans List
            • Sep 2014
            • 8543

            #50
            Originally posted by Ludwig
            You know something must be wrong when you get the second year blues in your third year.

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            • stevoswan
              Veterans List
              • Sep 2014
              • 8543

              #51
              Originally posted by NeonBible
              I say that lack of arrogance might be a hindrance for Rowbottom because he is in the team as a bullocking midfielder.

              He cant afford to be passive and let others around him do all the flashy stuff, he must take the onus upon himself!

              ...... if he doesnt learn to back himself to seize the moments more he could end up no more than an accumulator.
              That goal he kicked on the weekend was pretty darn flashy....I would say he seized the moment there. I think he's on the right track.....and we have coaches (with actual AFL experience) that will get the best out of him.

              Wish I could say the same thing with confidence re: Blakey.

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              • NeonBible
                Warming the Bench
                • Mar 2021
                • 280

                #52
                Originally posted by stevoswan
                That goal he kicked on the weekend was pretty darn flashy....I would say he seized the moment there. I think he's on the right track.....and we have coaches (with actual AFL experience) that will get the best out of him.

                Wish I could say the same thing with confidence re: Blakey.
                Blakey and Rowbottom need to swap brains!! Rowbottom could do with letting his natural game show more he just needs the confidence to do it while Blakey i think has a little bit too much confidence in his ability and needs to get back to the basics!!

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                • Ludwig
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9359

                  #53
                  Originally posted by NeonBible
                  Blakey and Rowbottom need to swap brains!! Rowbottom could do with letting his natural game show more he just needs the confidence to do it while Blakey i think has a little bit too much confidence in his ability and needs to get back to the basics!!
                  Maybe we should just pass on the national draft and go straight to the rookie draft where we can find confident and competent players like Rampe, Papley and Lloyd.

                  BTW, Carruthers made a few mistakes in the VFL, but showed plenty of promise with both his skills and athleticism. I think he will be another 1st round rookie pick that makes his mark at the Swans.

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                  • Markwebbos
                    Veterans List
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 7186

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Blood Fever
                    Are TB and BS two characters from the one play?
                    Not a play but a TV movie: Sybil

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                    • crackedactor 01
                      Regular in the Side
                      • Jun 2020
                      • 730

                      #55
                      Originally posted by NeonBible
                      Blakey and Rowbottom need to swap brains!! Rowbottom could do with letting his natural game show more he just needs the confidence to do it while Blakey i think has a little bit too much confidence in his ability and needs to get back to the basics!!
                      Great analysis! Though I still believe RB is carrying an injury. How Blakey missed seeing that Fremantle on his left side when going forward is beyond me. He definitely needs to go back to basics. McDonald was very impressive in patches in Sunday's game, I believe his inclusion is a must. Reminded me a little bit of Buddy.

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                      • Bangalore Swans
                        Suspended by the MRP
                        • Mar 2021
                        • 1049

                        #56
                        Originally posted by NeonBible
                        Hear hear mcs. It truly does come down to the individual player! For example Cunners doesnt need to have much arrogance. His role is one built on focus and discipline in stopping the best small fwd each week!

                        I say that lack of arrogance might be a hindrance for Rowbottom because he is in the team as a bullocking midfielder. His game will be based around his ability to win the hard ball and crash packs, break into the clear and take the game and the opponent on! Leave them in his dust! The kinds of things Chad is currently doing and impressing with! He cant afford to be passive and let others around him do all the flashy stuff, he must take the onus upon himself!

                        Watching him the last few weeks there is a passiveness to him. Hes very serious and he looks unsure with the ball. It is fine to be modest and subsequently be modest with your possessions, which he seems to be doing at the moment - focusing more on getting the ball to those around him rather than doing much with it himself. But if he doesnt learn to back himself to seize the moments more he could end up no more than an accumulator. & TheBloods might be right that he doesnt find the ball enough to be an accumulator which means he needs to learn to be an impact player! And if there is one thing i dont want, its for TheBloods to be right!

                        Are you looking for Rowbottom to display a bit more of this?

                        AFL - Bryan Taylor goes nuts - YouTube

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                        • NeonBible
                          Warming the Bench
                          • Mar 2021
                          • 280

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Bangalore Swans
                          Are you looking for Rowbottom to display a bit more of this?

                          AFL - Bryan Taylor goes nuts - YouTube
                          Couldn't hurt could it ?? LOL

                          Seems like the apple really does fall far from the tree in this case!!

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                          • SwanSand
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Aug 2020
                            • 523

                            #58
                            Originally posted by crackedactor 01
                            Great analysis! Though I still believe RB is carrying an injury. How Blakey missed seeing that Fremantle on his left side when going forward is beyond me. He definitely needs to go back to basics. McDonald was very impressive in patches in Sunday's game, I believe his inclusion is a must. Reminded me a little bit of Buddy.
                            Dermott Brereton also commented once when Blakey was one on one in the forward 50 and Buddy was kicking the ball to him that Blakey just did not understand the limitations of the kicker. Blakey was expecting a kick over the head of the defender but that needed to be a 70 - 80 m kick which would be nearly impossible for most kickers and as a forward he needed to understand this and move forwards which he did not.
                            So obviously that tells me he has a problem with decision making and taking the right option. If that is a concern, He needs a pep talk that maybe what he expects himself to do with what he has been told at the junior level may not be achievable and he is likely to not reach the heights that were expected. A bitter pill to swallow for a player who has been hyped up. But again, if the pep talk happens now, he may settle down now into a very narrow role and grow from there.

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                            • i'm-uninformed2
                              Reefer Madness
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 4653

                              #59
                              Originally posted by TheBloods
                              Mate have you been to the scg ? We dont give a stuff about his mullet or where he played junior or went to high school ! That is the elitist @@@@ you'd expect from the Demons supporters sipping their chardonnays ! TRUE bloods fans have always admired the hard workers and the team lifters ! We dont wanna see a bloke running around out there like a peacock thinking hes the number 1 pick then stuffing it up ! If you are gonna carry on on the field you gotta be able to back it up with pure talent - Jmac, Chad these boys always get the SCG going with their energy and huge plays at crucial moments. We love THEM ! We cheer Blakey on and want him to succeed just as much as them but unfortunately he gives us more facepalms than reasons to cheer !
                              Lots of faux hard language, phrasing and imagery. Plenty of CAPITAL letters for EMPHASIS. The exclamation points. Denouncing elitists and mullets in one go whilst praising the blonde tipped guy. It’s all there. The parents’ basement must be a special place.
                              'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                              • Ralph Dawg
                                Senior Player
                                • Apr 2018
                                • 1729

                                #60
                                Ins McDonald JMac
                                Outs Blakey Wicks

                                I wouldn't drop McLean. He's been really good up until last weekend and is entitled to another chance. With McDonald in as a proper third tall, we can afford to use McLean to provide a chop out to Hickey. If Hickey is out, would we gamble on Naismith or just go with Sinclair?

                                Wicks looks a bit out of sorts, if JMac not fit, Lewie Taylor has been playing well enough to get a go.

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