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  • Ludwig
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2007
    • 9359

    #91
    How do we let Higgens take 12 marks? The most he's had in any previous game was 6 and averaging around 3. Fox was on him at the start of the game. I don't recall if we switched in the 2nd half. This was probably the worst game Fox has played for a while. Kennedy with only 14 disposals; must be a career low or close to it.

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    • Legs Akimbo
      Grand Poobah
      • Apr 2005
      • 2809

      #92
      Just for a moment, let's consider the htb decision against mccartin. The bank was between King's legs. Now, for the last 4 weeks it has been almost impossible to be paid holding the ball. If the umpire saw the ball between king's legs, why did he pay it? If he didn't see the ball, why did he pay it? It was right in front of the goals. A mistake will cost the swans a goal. I just wish Longmire would raise it and take the fine.
      He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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      • rojo
        Opti-pessi-misti
        • Mar 2009
        • 1103

        #93
        No wonder Rampe was frustrated, giving away stupid, certain-goal free kicks. He should not have to play on the tallest forward. When we meet a team with three tall forwards rotating through their forward line and a good midfield we will be in real trouble.

        So good that we won though. Did we deserve to? I think I will say - yes.

        I do feel for Jack Higgins but his missed goals helped make up for the questionable umpiring decisions that led to the same number of goals that the Saints did kick.

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        • stevoswan
          Veterans List
          • Sep 2014
          • 8573

          #94
          Originally posted by Ralph Dawg
          Higgins will have nightmares about today


          Saints have the umpires in their pocket, we have Higgins
          Part of the AFL match report's headline......'missy' Higgins. I like it!

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          • stevoswan
            Veterans List
            • Sep 2014
            • 8573

            #95
            Originally posted by Daisi
            I'd like to thank everybody here for being patient with my temper tantrum...but honestly, the shocking umpiring in AFL ( it always seems to be against us) makes me sooooo crazy angry....

            I've also had a pretty bad week in terms of work etc...so it's nice to let off some steam

            Thanks again all
            Vent on here anytime you like Daisi.....that's what RWO is for......mod's permitting.

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            • Aaron
              Regular in the Side
              • Jan 2009
              • 805

              #96
              For the record - the strange? biased? incapable ? brilliant ? umpires today : Curtis Deboy (11), Robert Findlay (23), Nathan Toner (38) !!!

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              • Maltopia
                Senior Player
                • Apr 2016
                • 1556

                #97
                Tough game, umps were trying their hardest to make us lose in the third and fourth. Neither of the 50 meter penalties were there, even channel 7 commentators said that, along with other soft frees. Glad we held on. We were under pressure a lot because of Ryder's strong leap in the ruck with Hickey not able to jump much, especially with Kennedy being very underwhelming in the first half. Possible BOG for both sides was Jack Higgins who kicked 1.6 to keep us in the game lol, and for St Kilda, kept taking i50 marks to keep them in the game too.

                Almartey looked fumbly and didn't attach the ball early but flourished as the game went on, which is great for us. Hickey despite not jumping much was great too. Hayward was excellent. Cunningham was really good too I thought. Papley, Kennedy, and to an extent Heeney, Parker and Mills were not up to their usual standard, but can bounce back next match hopefully.

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                • Matty10
                  Senior Player
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 1331

                  #98
                  Originally posted by Legs Akimbo
                  Just for a moment, let's consider the htb decision against mccartin. The bank was between King's legs. Now, for the last 4 weeks it has been almost impossible to be paid holding the ball. If the umpire saw the ball between king's legs, why did he pay it? If he didn't see the ball, why did he pay it? It was right in front of the goals. A mistake will cost the swans a goal. I just wish Longmire would raise it and take the fine.
                  When a player is on the ground and elects to drag the ball in (which in this case was probably just taking possession), rather than knocking it on, it becomes his responsibility to clear the ball. McCartin didn’t clear the ball, so a free kick was paid.

                  It looked weird because King was sitting on it at the end, but the AFL doesn’t want players who are already on the ground trying to take possession of the ball as it rarely gets out. If the roles were reversed I would expect the Swans to receive the free kick - and would be screaming out if it was not paid (but perhaps this might be called one-eyed). I was nervous when McCartin picked it up.

                  The point of contention more than anything is whether McCartin’s action of taking possession is equivalent to dragging it back in.

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                  • stevoswan
                    Veterans List
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 8573

                    #99
                    Originally posted by 707
                    Just got in from work, about to watch the game on replay. Am I to assume there might be some soft/non frees to Saints during this game?

                    As a general comment, there are far too many soft frees paid across most games, some are double the total frees of other games and when you watch those you roll your eyes at some of the soft/non frees paid. Just let the game flow umpires, it's not about you!
                    About 4 goals worth.

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                    • Matty10
                      Senior Player
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 1331

                      Originally posted by Ludwig
                      This was probably the worst game Fox has played for a while.
                      I am a fan of Fox but thought he was a bit off today. I wondered if his hand was bothering him. There was also a lot of finger pointing in the back line today. We didn’t seem to gel as well for some reason.

                      It also seemed like the whole team fumbled a bit today. Throw that bag of footballs out, I reckon.

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                      • Nico
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 11343

                        Originally posted by Legs Akimbo
                        Just for a moment, let's consider the htb decision against mccartin. The bank was between King's legs. Now, for the last 4 weeks it has been almost impossible to be paid holding the ball. If the umpire saw the ball between king's legs, why did he pay it? If he didn't see the ball, why did he pay it? It was right in front of the goals. A mistake will cost the swans a goal. I just wish Longmire would raise it and take the fine.
                        He paid it because McCartin dragged the ball back in. Strange that he blew the whistle when ball was between King's legs.
                        http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                        • Markwebbos
                          Veterans List
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 7186

                          Didn’t see the whole game but thought Amartey keeps his spot. Was a great 2nd game.

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                          • TheBloods
                            Suspended by the MRP
                            • Feb 2020
                            • 2047

                            I better sit this one out !

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                            • Roadrunner
                              Senior Player
                              • Jan 2018
                              • 1481

                              Originally posted by Ludwig
                              How do we let Higgens take 12 marks? The most he's had in any previous game was 6 and averaging around 3. Fox was on him at the start of the game. I don't recall if we switched in the 2nd half. This was probably the worst game Fox has played for a while. Kennedy with only 14 disposals; must be a career low or close to it.
                              I thought Fox was poor today. I don’t understand why he was preferred to Brandt, who played ok last week and who should have played on King. As good as Ramps is, he shouldn’t be expected to play on guys giving away so much height. As for Joey, he comes good late in the game when opponents are tired. A bit sad, really. Amartey improved during the game and should retain his spot, as should Logan, but Wiks didn’t do enough today. Overall, we were a little flat and we are not strong enough in the air to keep bombing into our forward zone. Happy with the win but not a game that was satisfying. Hope we improve next week!

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                              • Nico
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 11343

                                What kept St Kilda in the game was our 6 misses close in from set shots. Higgins missed up the other end but we were poor kicking for goal. Papley 2, Amartey 1, Hayward 2, Heeney 1. Heeney picked out his mum in the crowd on the opposite wing.
                                http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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