Adam Goodes and Hall of Fame

[i'm-uninformed2]

Typical of Robbo. Always scoop driven, rather than supporting Adam's wishes.

To be fair, he was one of the few media voices in constant and robust support of Goodes at the height of the booing.

And any journo worth his salt that gets that story is going to run with it.

[i'm-uninformed2]

I agree with every pixel of this. I can scarcely say the word Fitzpatrick without wanting to vomit with rage.

Him and Gil.

I was at a Swans Chairman's Club event in 2016, when in walked Gil.

I was standing next to Richard Colless, who I knew and who knew my views on Gil's handling of the whole thing.

Colless must have sensed me instantly tense, as he straight away just grabbed my arm and said: "don't".

I wanted to smash a plate into Gil's stupid face.

[Kafka's Ghost]

Adam Goodes will always remain a part of Swans legend, and most certainly part of the Swans’ family. Hopefully at some time in the future he is able to be celebrated as he should have been, and should be, but his decision now is entirely his to make. The AFL as an organisation doesn’t deserve the time of day from Adam.
Mike Fitzpatrick’s vindictiveness towards Sydney as a club, and pettiness towards Adam as a man, says everything you need to know about him. How ironic he used his position in Rio Tinto to justify his “indigenous credentials”.

[Bloods05]

This Fitzpatrick statement was the apex of the AFL's miserable handling of it all. Months late, and all about himself.

And by the way, based on some leaks at the time, Fitzpatrick's private view was it was nothing to do with race and all about Adam as an 'upstart'.

An utter piece of .... (can't say it on here).

Mike Fitzpatrick statement on Adam Goodes

That stuff about his involvement in the mining industry is gag-inducing.

[KTigers]

I agree with every pixel of this. I can scarcely say the word Fitzpatrick without wanting to vomit with rage.

From the Fitzpatrick statement in 2015.... "I have been fortunate to be a director of the two organisations in Australia which I believe have
achieved much for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders - Rio Tinto and the AFL". Yep, not just the AFL, but Rio Tinto as well. The twin towers
of virtue signaling in this country.

[bloodspirit]

It's interesting that you have to accept your induction. Unless you're dead. In that case the Commission has no compunction about awarding the gongs posthumously.

Sometimes nominees turn down Academy Awards, others turn down Nobel prizes, knighthoods, Michelin stars etc. Despite this Academy Awards and Nobel Prizes have been awarded to people adjudged worthy winners despite their declining the offer e.g. George C. Scott and Marlon Brando refused but were awarded the Best Actor Oscar in 1971 & 1973 respectively, Jean-Paul Sartre the Nobel Prize in Literature 1964. I'm not sure what the ethics and etiquette of ignoring the honoree's wishes are but I can certainly see the logic: this award simply represents what we think of you, you are not required to accept it. (This process works well for Razzies and Darwin Awards too - although occasionally winners (like Tom Selleck) have accepted Razzies - can't say the same for Darwin Awards!)

My tentative feeling is that I would ultimately like to see Goodes acknowledged as the Hall of Fame Legend that he is irrespective of whether he wishes to accept the accolade himself. Out of sensitivity and respect for his feelings, I would suggest that this not happen any time soon. However, I can see counter-arguments that it may be improper.

[rb4x]

From the Fitzpatrick statement in 2015.... "I have been fortunate to be a director of the two organisations in Australia which I believe have
achieved much for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders - Rio Tinto and the AFL". Yep, not just the AFL, but Rio Tinto as well. The twin towers
of virtue signaling in this country.

Juukan Gorge! Yes Rio has done a lot in wiping out indigenous history. That of course came after Fitzpatrick's statement.

[snajik]

It's clear to see just how raw it all still is for almost everyone that posts here. It would be magnified further again for Adam.
Good on him. Once again a demonstration of his resolute credibility. Forever a Legend for the red and white.

[NeonBible]

Typical of Robbo. Always scoop driven, rather than supporting Adam's wishes.

It was going to come out one way or another when Adam didn't turn up at the event. It was published respectfully enough by Robbo, who i don't usually give my time to

[Blood Fever]

It was going to come out one way or another when Adam didn't turn up at the event. It was published respectfully enough by Robbo, who i don't usually give my time to

They wouldn't invite him against his wishes. Wouldn't have come out except for the article.

[liz]

It's clear to see just how raw it all still is for almost everyone that posts here. It would be magnified further again for Adam.
Good on him. Once again a demonstration of his resolute credibility. Forever a Legend for the red and white.

It's raw for us. We don't know how much it eats at Adam but it's entirely possible that he's completely moved on and doesn't give it any thought. Except to the extent that he no longer wants to have anything to do with AFL (apart from possibly minor contact with the Swans).

It was going to come out one way or another when Adam didn't turn up at the event. It was published respectfully enough by Robbo, who i don't usually give my time to

Sure, when he wasn't inducted people would wonder why but then the AFL could quietly confirm that he'd decline an invitation. That seems to be what Adam wanted. I'm not surprised that the media has reported it once they got hold of the story, but that doesn't make it any more "right" IMO to disregard his request.

[NeonBible]

Sure, when he wasn't inducted people would wonder why but then the AFL could quietly confirm that he'd decline an invitation. That seems to be what Adam wanted. I'm not surprised that the media has reported it once they got hold of the story, but that doesn't make it any more "right" IMO to disregard his request.

Hi liz, i am with you that it doesn't make it right as it is none of our business if and when Adam chooses to reconcile with the AFL. I do however think it was going to be a media storm either way, whether the news was leaked earlier by Robbo or after the facts once Adam was a no-show. If anything, it getting out to the media ahead of the HoF event has given the public the time and the opportunity to reflect on why Adam declined and to discuss the ways in which he was so wronged by the industry in the first place!

[Legs Akimbo]

Good on Adam. A principled man who knows himself and what he stands for. A human being I have utmost respect for. Can't say the same about Mike Fitzpatrick. Adam's rejection of the AFL is like the proverbial albatross, hanging around its proverbial neck. Long may it stay there stinking the place up and causing discomfort.

[Nico]

If we didn't come out after half time in that disgraceful WCE game I would have felt it entirely appropriate. Worst display of mass human behaviour I have seen. How many of those hypocrites would have attended the Dreamtime game on the weekend. The media lauded the West Aussies who made it a sellout.

[MattW]

Highly recommend watching this clip of Eddie Betts on the issue: https://twitter.com/FOXFOOTY/status/...546677761?s=19.