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  • Aaron
    Regular in the Side
    • Jan 2009
    • 805

    Swans chat Changes to R20 V Dons

    Date and Venue Updates:
    Essendon v Sydney Swans at the Gabba, 7.40pm AEST on Saturday

    Mills and Cunningham will finish their isolation on Tuesday and they will be back. Ronke and one of Bell/Rowbottom will be rested. With Buddy suspended for 1 week, McDonald will be back.
    Last edited by Aaron; 26 July 2021, 07:29 PM.
  • TheBloods
    Suspended by the MRP
    • Feb 2020
    • 2047

    #2
    Amartey should be in before McD , was doing his role OK , replaced by Reid and needed a rest anyway , had his rest now bring him back now

    Most similar to Bud too

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    • AB Swannie
      Senior Player
      • Mar 2017
      • 1579

      #3
      In: Mills, Cunningham, McDonald
      Out: Franklin, Ronke, Bell

      Agree that the decision is between dropping RB or Bell. I'd prefer he didn't have to, but I think Franklin's absence pushes Heeney forward a bit more. This means I think RB will be retained to provide more midfield support.

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      • gazza
        Warming the Bench
        • Mar 2005
        • 329

        #4
        mills,cunningham,mcdonald out ronke,franklin bell
        forgotten 1996
        2005 a much sweeter memory,2012 even better

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        • wolftone57
          Veterans List
          • Aug 2008
          • 5851

          #5
          Yes that looks the most likely scenario, Mcdonald back. I think Rowie will go back to the reserves to get some form on the board. Mills will be a big in.? Ronke? will come out for Cunningham I should think.

          We play at the Gabba. Not a happy hunting ground for us. But we are in pretty good form. Barring slow starts. This week we really do have to be switched on from the start. Last weekend Essendon and GWS produced a total of 16 goals and only 39 scoring shots between them. GWS like a strangle but they find it difficult to put a big score up.

          Bombers have had a few big scores but they play that set pattern that can be exploited. They back their mids in. No tagging. We will tag either Merritt or Parrish or possibly Stringer. If they are not on with their disposal they turn the ball over, a lot. Against GWS thus was very obvious. Not only that Parrish was tagged out of the game. Nick Hind had a defensive forward playing on him and lost nearly all his influence and consequently was always under pressure. We will probably play Will or Belly on Parish. They have the pace to go with him.

          We have the game plan and if we use our passing game we will get forward entries. Essendon allow that.

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          • Matty10
            Senior Player
            • Jun 2007
            • 1331

            #6
            Originally posted by TheBloods
            Most similar to Bud too
            In what way? Not sure we have someone who plays a similar game (although It is hard to work out how we play Bud at times).

            It will be an interesting setup. I wonder if they will go for something different (e.g. small, quick targets) or look to play a straight lead up role (Logan or McLean), or use Reid as a permanent forward.

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            • TheBloods
              Suspended by the MRP
              • Feb 2020
              • 2047

              #7
              Originally posted by Matty10
              In what way? Not sure we have someone who plays a similar game (although It is hard to work out how we play Bud at times).

              It will be an interesting setup. I wonder if they will go for something different (e.g. small, quick targets) or look to play a straight lead up role (Logan or McLean), or use Reid as a permanent forward.
              Obviously no one plays a similar game to Buddy , he is an all time great ! Amartey is athletic , wins more ground balls than marks similar to the champ , McD and Mclean are more marking types and not as suited to our current group of pressure smalls

              Bell stays

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              • wolftone57
                Veterans List
                • Aug 2008
                • 5851

                #8
                Originally posted by TheBloods
                Obviously no one plays a similar game to Buddy , he is an all time great ! Amartey is athletic , wins more ground balls than marks similar to the champ , McD and Mclean are more marking types and not as suited to our current group of pressure smalls

                Bell stays
                Mcdonald is a leading forward more than a pack marker. I think Amartey can take a huge pack mark but yes he is incredibly mobile. But then again so is Mcdonald. We need to shutdown Hind.

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                • MattW
                  Veterans List
                  • May 2011
                  • 4208

                  #9
                  Originally posted by AB Swannie
                  In: Mills, Cunningham, McDonald
                  Out: Franklin, Ronke, Bell

                  Agree that the decision is between dropping RB or Bell. I'd prefer he didn't have to, but I think Franklin's absence pushes Heeney forward a bit more. This means I think RB will be retained to provide more midfield support.
                  That's what I'd do and your reasoning is sound, but suspect they'll drop Rowbottom and retain Bell.

                  Suspect Ben has played his last senior game for us.

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                  • Markwebbos
                    Veterans List
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 7186

                    #10
                    Originally posted by wolftone57
                    Yes that looks the most likely scenario, Mcdonald back. I think Rowie will go back to the reserves to get some form on the board. Mills will be a big in.? Ronke? will come out for Cunningham I should think.

                    We play at the Gabba. Not a happy hunting ground for us. But we are in pretty good form. Barring slow starts. This week we really do have to be switched on from the start. Last weekend Essendon and GWS produced a total of 16 goals and only 39 scoring shots between them. GWS like a strangle but they find it difficult to put a big score up.

                    Bombers have had a few big scores but they play that set pattern that can be exploited. They back their mids in. No tagging. We will tag either Merritt or Parrish or possibly Stringer. If they are not on with their disposal they turn the ball over, a lot. Against GWS thus was very obvious. Not only that Parrish was tagged out of the game. Nick Hind had a defensive forward playing on him and lost nearly all his influence and consequently was always under pressure. We will probably play Will or Belly on Parish. They have the pace to go with him.

                    We have the game plan and if we use our passing game we will get forward entries. Essendon allow that.
                    I agree that we’ll tag Parish and Hind.

                    The SCG game against the Bombers was the first time that the Slick Swans lost their mojo and began to be constipated in ball movement.

                    I believe we’ve taken forward steps since that game (particularly the last month) so hope we can dominate them.

                    Would love to see RB stay but probably the changes you’ve flagged.

                    Also didn’t Hooker destroy McCartin last time around. Hoping that won’t happen again.

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                    • Bangalore Swans
                      Suspended by the MRP
                      • Mar 2021
                      • 1049

                      #11
                      Originally posted by gazza
                      mills,cunningham,mcdonald out ronke,franklin bell
                      Agree.

                      When you have Reid as back up ruckman you can play another pure tall forward as opposed to a hybrid ruckman / forward that Amertey and McLean are.

                      Good opportunity for McDonald. If he plays really well then he may put pressure on Hayward’s spot as 3rd tall.

                      According to one poster, Amartey may be being held back as Reid and Hickey have child births coming up and may have to enter NSW. This will lead to two week delays in their availability to play outside NSW. Amartey may be very important in covering that period and can’t afford any injuries now.

                      I would always pick Rowbottom over Bell. Rowbottom has more talent and if he needs to play some time up forward has demonstrated that he’s a decent kick for goal.

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                      • Meg
                        Go Swannies!
                        Site Admin
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 4828

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Bangalore Swans
                        Agree.


                        According to one poster, Amartey may be being held back as Reid and Hickey have child births coming up and may have to enter NSW..
                        Both Kim Reid and Chlo Hickey are currently in quarantine in Brisbane with their respective toddlers.

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                        • Captain
                          Captain of the Side
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 3602

                          #13
                          Pretty good position that we have 3 players ready to replace Buddy.

                          Logan is the best long term prospect but would be my last picked now, namely as the other two will be able to better take over from Buddy in a final this year if he goes down injured. May as well play them now when we can.

                          I would go Amartey over McLean namely due to his ruck ability. That leaves Reid to play the Buddy full forward role and do no rucking, which he is more than capable of. Also eases him back better from injury.

                          Assuming no injuries, Bell and Ronke would clearly be the ones to make way for Mills and Harry.

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                          • joeykanga
                            Warming the Bench
                            • Jul 2019
                            • 361

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Bangalore Swans
                            Agree.

                            When you have Reid as back up ruckman you can play another pure tall forward as opposed to a hybrid ruckman / forward that Amertey and McLean are.

                            Good opportunity for McDonald. If he plays really well then he may put pressure on Hayward’s spot as 3rd tall.

                            According to one poster, Amartey may be being held back as Reid and Hickey have child births coming up and may have to enter NSW. This will lead to two week delays in their availability to play outside NSW. Amartey may be very important in covering that period and can’t afford any injuries now.

                            I would always pick Rowbottom over Bell. Rowbottom has more talent and if he needs to play some time up forward has demonstrated that he’s a decent kick for goal.
                            Rowbottom may have more talent but I don’t see him replacing Bell up forward in that role.

                            Bell may go out this week but I still think he’ll keep his spot ..he played his role perfectly and that was his best gane so far .

                            I’d love to see Amartey back but then again Logan has been impressive and McLean ain’t too bad either ..it’s nice to have the choices

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                            • Aprilbr
                              Senior Player
                              • Oct 2016
                              • 1803

                              #15
                              Ronke had zero impact so his time as a senior AFL player is probably up. Mills is a star so he obviously comes straight back in. Assuming Harry's fitness is not too impaired by the covid break he should be back in too. Whether Bell or Rowbottom makes way may depend on potential match ups.

                              The loss of Buddy provides an interesting dilemma as to which of McDonald, Armetey or McLean comes in to replace him. McDonald is a lead up style forward. Reid is like that too. The other two are bigger and can take pack marks. Armetey can also take tap outs. Perhaps that gives Armetey the edge? Tough selection calls this week.

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