Round 22: the other games. Have the elimination finals started?

[KTigers]

Tonight's game will once and for all decide who is the better ex-Sydney ruckman.

The biggest question in football. Around the dinner table here we talk of little else.

[barry]

The biggest question in football. Around the dinner table here we talk of little else.

I don't think we are any closer to the answer.

[KTigers]

I don't think we are any closer to the answer.

I think you're right man. The answer remains as elusive as ever.

[wolftone57]

Richmond are in denial. Too much arrogance from coach, players. The game plan has been found out. The tall towers are easily controlled if you get the match ups right. Their backs do not like playing man on man they like to zone and you can create space from this. We were the team that pulled their game plan to pieces and murdered them.

If you don't recognise your failures as well as you achievements then you will drown in mediocracy. They have been elite but now they aren't. Their players do not have the hunger any more. Get rid of some of the players. Regenerate the list a bit with players hungry for the same success. But most importantly they must change the game plan.

I think GWS were very good. Have been the last two weeks. The Cats game told me something, not about GWS but about the Cats. They will not win the premiership because if they come up against several sides they WILL lose. Dees, GWS, Swans & Dogs. Even Port run them. That means Cats are close to the end of their run. They will need to retire almost half their side after 2022.

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[707]

That's Richmond gone, can't stand that smug Hardwick.

What will be interesting now will be the actual match ups in the first round of finals, chance that some of the round 23 matches could be repeated the following week in the finals, Brisbane WC, Cats Melb, Fairypups Power.

[barry]

Richmond have just got lazy with success. Some of the hard "workers" have left, and the high reputation ones remaining don't want to roll there sleeves up.

Funny thing is, hardwick doesn't have anywhere near the reputation of other premiership coaches.

[Aprilbr]

That's Richmond gone, can't stand that smug Hardwick.

What will be interesting now will be the actual match ups in the first round of finals, chance that some of the round 23 matches could be repeated the following week in the finals, Brisbane WC, Cats Melb, Fairypups Power.

Hardwick claimed in the after-match press conference that Richmond will challenge for the flag again next year! They might try the Hawthorn trick of buying in experienced players from other teams with the hope of prolonging the dynasty. We all know where that leads. Best to bite the bullet now, recognise that youth is needed and start to go back to the draft while gradually offloading older players.

[KSAS]

Hardwick claimed in the after-match press conference that Richmond will challenge for the flag again next year! They might try the Hawthorn trick of buying in experienced players from other teams with the hope of prolonging the dynasty. We all know where that leads. Best to bite the bullet now, recognise that youth is needed and start to go back to the draft while gradually offloading older players.

A close mate who is a mad Tigers fan has been advocating this (re-build) since half way through the season. He thinks Cotchin, Houli and few others should give it away at year's end and trade a few out, to go to the Draft with a good hand (Rioli was one he called to be traded).

[joeykanga]

Richmond are in denial. Too much arrogance from coach, players. The game plan has been found out. The tall towers are easily controlled if you get the match ups right. Their backs do not like playing man on man they like to zone and you can create space from this. We were the team that pulled their game plan to pieces and murdered them.

If you don't recognise your failures as well as you achievements then you will drown in mediocracy. They have been elite but now they aren't. Their players do not have the hunger any more. Get rid of some of the players. Regenerate the list a bit with players hungry for the same success. But most importantly they must change the game plan.

I think GWS were very good. Have been the last two weeks. The Cats game told me something, not about GWS but about the Cats. They will not win the premiership because if they come up against several sides they WILL lose. Dees, GWS, Swans & Dogs. Even Port run them. That means Cats are close to the end of their run. They will need to retire almost half their side after 2022.

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Good post +1

On a separate note
I don’t usually like Hawthorn ..now that there’s a few unknowns playing it’s hard to dislike them as much as when you knew Hodge and Roughie were playing ..they’re actually looking pretty good ..it’s high pressure and plenty of good ball movement ..
That loss we had against them stacks up well with their from since ..they did come off a bye and we were backing up after five days

[Bangalore Swans]

Hawks up by 20 points early in last quarter.

It’s clear that the Hawks are playing for Clarko.

The competition is very even.

The bottom 6 sides deserve a big congratulations. They are all playing hard to win and want to knock some medium and top teams off.

[Sandridge]

You have to feel for the Bulldogs. They lost the free kick count today. Hard to compete with that sort of injustice.

[dejavoodoo44]

Good post +1

On a separate note
I don’t usually like Hawthorn ..now that there’s a few unknowns playing it’s hard to dislike them as much as when you knew Hodge and Roughie were playing ..they’re actually looking pretty good ..it’s high pressure and plenty of good ball movement ..
That loss we had against them stacks up well with their from since ..they did come off a bye and we were backing up after five days

Well, I can tolerate them when they're beating teams like the Bulldogs. And I don't mind them moving further away from the pointy end of the draft, but once the new season starts, my traditional antagonism is bound to resurface.

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You have to feel for the Bulldogs. They lost the free kick count today. Hard to compete with that sort of injustice.

Must be distressing for them. Perhaps a cup of tea, some fentanyl and a nice lie down.

[KTigers]

You have to feel for the Bulldogs. They lost the free kick count today. Hard to compete with that sort of injustice.

That is outrageous. Surely the AFL will launch an investigation. I thought they lost because they only kicked five goals, and Hawthorn played
better, but now the truth behind their loss has been revealed.

[KTigers]

Saints up and about. 5.1.31 to Geelong 0.0.0 with 4 mins to go in the first quarter.

[707]

You have to feel for the Bulldogs. They lost the free kick count today. Hard to compete with that sort of injustice.

Noooooooo!

Dreadful state of affairs, poor pups :-(

Remind me again why the Hawks are giving Clarko the flick, still the best tactician in the game.