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  • barry
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 8499

    #31
    The Bont had a look on his face after the brownlow count of "... how could the umpires not gift me the brownlow?... "
    Its become an expectation out near the sewerage works of werribee.

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    • snajik
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2003
      • 1115

      #32
      Originally posted by Meg
      And if Mills didn’t go to the rugby game he wouldn’t have spent 14 days in a hotel room, and if he didn’t spend 14 days in a hotel room his Achilles injury might not have flared up, and if his Achilles hadn’t flared up he would have played in the EF, and if Mills had played in the EF ....... [emoji2368] [emoji22]

      Lol. have to be content with his 14 Brownlow votes ....
      Conclusion = we must eradicate rugby.
      It's very hard to live in a studio apartment in San Jose with a man who's learning to play violin. That's what she told the police when she handed them the empty revolver.
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      • Doctor J.
        Senior Player
        • Feb 2003
        • 1310

        #33
        Originally posted by longmile
        Ollie Wines one of the most average players to win the brownlow?

        Like he's obviously a decent player but lacks the x factor of a lot of past winners.
        Tony Liberatore says hi

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        • dejavoodoo44
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2015
          • 8490

          #34
          Originally posted by liz
          I went and looked at the stats. He did have a lot of possessions and topped the Dreamtime (name?) score. But I think a lot of that was just useless short possessions in the Eagles' back half.

          I listened to the first few minutes of the Damo and Nat podcast on the AFL site this morning. They mentioned that the umpires now have access to the match stats before they cast their votes. That may explain - in part - why the mids who get huge amounts of ball dominate the votes nowadays, even if, sometimes, their impact isn't borne out by possession numbers.

          (It doesn't entirely explain away the current day dominance of the Brownlow by midfielders because, as that podcast also points out, pretty much every other award, including the AFLCA award, is also dominated by midfielders.)
          I went back and checked a write up of that game, largely because I couldn't remember if it was Sheed or Shuey that elbowed Mills (it was Shuey). But the Mongrel Punt article that I landed on, was discussing why they didn't include Sheed as one of their best players for the day. They pointed out, that while Sheed had just as many disposals as their BOG, Mills; Sheed's disposal efficiency was 45%, compared to the 76% achieved by Mills.

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          • Blood Fever
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2007
            • 4040

            #35
            Originally posted by barry
            The Bont had a look on his face after the brownlow count of "... how could the umpires not gift me the brownlow?... "
            Its become an expectation out near the sewerage works of werribee.
            LOL.. Werribee a long way from Footscray. Melbourne geography lesson needed.

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            • 707
              Veterans List
              • Aug 2009
              • 6204

              #36
              Mills five BOG's, developing nicely :-)

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              • barry
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2003
                • 8499

                #37
                Originally posted by Blood Fever
                LOL.. Werribee a long way from Footscray. Melbourne geography lesson needed.
                You may be right, but I do believe the smell lingers in footscray on the prevailing westerly breeze.

                Anyway, who is this "footscray"?, I thought they were the team of Melbourne western suburbs. The fine cities of...
                City of Brimbank
                City of Hobsons Bay
                City of Maribyrnong
                City of Moonee Valley
                City of Melton
                City of Wyndham

                and Werribee is in wyndham.

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                • stevoswan
                  Veterans List
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 8543

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Blood Fever
                  LOL.. Werribee a long way from Footscray. Melbourne geography lesson needed.
                  There's no doubt that Footscray's crap ends up there....and somewhere in that same putrid mess lies the 2016 Premiership Cup.....tainted and smelly.

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                  Originally posted by barry
                  You may be right, but I do believe the smell lingers in footscray on the prevailing westerly breeze.

                  Anyway, who is this "footscray"?, I thought they were the team of Melbourne western suburbs. The fine cities of...
                  City of Brimbank
                  City of Hobsons Bay
                  City of Maribyrnong
                  City of Moonee Valley
                  City of Melton
                  City of Wyndham

                  and Werribee is in wyndham.
                  That's reaching....it's still a long way from Footscray.

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                  • Bloods05
                    Senior Player
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 1641

                    #39
                    Originally posted by barry
                    You may be right, but I do believe the smell lingers in footscray on the prevailing westerly breeze.

                    Anyway, who is this "footscray"?, I thought they were the team of Melbourne western suburbs. The fine cities of...
                    City of Brimbank
                    City of Hobsons Bay
                    City of Maribyrnong
                    City of Moonee Valley
                    City of Melton
                    City of Wyndham

                    and Werribee is in wyndham.
                    They're trying to claim Ballarat now too, with the connivance of the Ballarat Council (and, I might add, the AFL).
                    Last edited by Bloods05; 20 September 2021, 03:35 PM. Reason: added comment

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                    • stevoswan
                      Veterans List
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 8543

                      #40
                      One thing for me which stuck out from the count was Touk Miller's 18 votes after a stellar season which I thought would lead to an embarrassing win to a suspended player. I believe the umpires may have ignored him after he became ineligible......which I thought they are not supposed to do. More HQ influence/directives on AFL umpiring perhaps??

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                      • barry
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 8499

                        #41
                        Originally posted by stevoswan
                        One thing for me which stuck out from the count was Touk Miller's 18 votes after a stellar season which I thought would lead to an embarrassing win to a suspended player. I believe the umpires may have ignored him after he became ineligible......which I thought they are not supposed to do. More HQ influence/directives on AFL umpiring perhaps??
                        The brownlow has changed so much over the years. Back in the day, you thought players were a better chance if they played for a weaker team (ie, you'd stand out), and fullfowards (plugger) and spare men in defence (woewodin) could win it. Now its just a possession count for midfielders.

                        Umpires!, reclaim your medal from the stats counters!

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                        • Bloods05
                          Senior Player
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 1641

                          #42
                          Originally posted by barry
                          The brownlow has changed so much over the years. Back in the day, you thought players were a better chance if they played for a weaker team (ie, you'd stand out), and fullfowards (plugger) and spare men in defence (woewodin) could win it. Now its just a possession count for midfielders.

                          Umpires!, reclaim your medal from the stats counters!
                          It's true that non-midfielders won it more frequently in the past, and that it wasn't so rare for a player in a team outside the top four, but I'm pretty certain Plugger was the only permanent full-forward ever to win it. Bernie Quinlan played a lot at full-forward, but not exclusively.

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                          • Mel_C
                            Veterans List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 4470

                            #43
                            Originally posted by SCGonasunnyday
                            Can’t believe dom sheed polled 1 vote in the game where we won by 92. Seems suss
                            I couldn't believe it either. I was certain it would be 3 swans.

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                            • Mel_C
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 4470

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Meg
                              And if Mills didn’t go to the rugby game he wouldn’t have spent 14 days in a hotel room, and if he didn’t spend 14 days in a hotel room his Achilles injury might not have flared up, and if his Achilles hadn’t flared up he would have played in the EF, and if Mills had played in the EF ....... [emoji2368] [emoji22]

                              Lol. have to be content with his 14 Brownlow votes ....
                              Meg I've thought this exact same thing a number of times since the Elimination Final loss ?.

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                              • Mel_C
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 4470

                                #45
                                Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
                                It was silly, but I didn't mind - it meant the Bont got so agonisingly close, only to see it snatched away.

                                An exact replica of what I hope happens Saturday night and I wanna see up close shots of the heart break on the face of him and his team mates.
                                I was glad he didn't win. I don't know what others thought but to me he looked pissed that he missed out.

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