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  • TheBloods
    Suspended by the MRP
    • Feb 2020
    • 2047

    #46
    Originally posted by mcs
    Sounds like Parker and Hayward aren't taking their careers seriously, and should be delisted at the earliest opportunity

    Back on a serious note, good to hear some of the younger brigade doing well. A big year in 22 for Stephens and Gould for mine - good to hear them starting it on the right foot.
    You cant help yourself

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    • mcs
      Travelling Swannie!!
      • Jul 2007
      • 8166

      #47
      Originally posted by TheBloods
      You cant help yourself
      Only because the bites keep coming

      No doubt we will have further moments of absurdity to come over the long pre-season ahead.
      "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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      • Ludwig
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2007
        • 9359

        #48
        Originally posted by mcs
        A big year in 22 for Stephens and Gould for mine - good to hear them starting it on the right foot.
        I agree. They're both serious about their careers and would be disappointed at where they ended 2021. I think they'll work their butts off to force their way into the senior side. They have the talent and I'm backing them in to do it. They could be the ones that give us the depth to make the top 4 in 2022.

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        • Ralph Dawg
          Senior Player
          • Apr 2018
          • 1729

          #49
          The one photo of Squizzy Taylor shows him to be in good shape!

          I reckon competition for positions in our team will be intense, especially for the last 3-4. Maybe that's why Dawson left because he couldn't stand the heat ????????

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          • Thunder Shaker
            Aut vincere aut mori
            • Apr 2004
            • 4198

            #50
            Originally posted by mcs
            Only because the bites keep coming

            No doubt we will have further moments of absurdity to come over the long pre-season ahead.
            It's not called the silly season for no reason.
            "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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            • SeanM
              Warming the Bench
              • Jul 2016
              • 304

              #51
              Went down to training Monday morning around 930am. They had already started and were doing some straight line running. It was a big group with a lot of academy/vfl players integrated into the same sesssion as the senior guys. Seemed to be Blakey, Mills, Clarke, Melican and Amartey doing a lighter session on the far side.

              Think they split into 3 groups for 2km. For the first group initially Fox established a reasonable gap, Stephens and Rankin had a clear gap in 2nd and everyone else was in a bunch together. Though in the last lap Rankin tired and dropped off, Stephens finished really strongly and made up some ground on Fox. And the bunch of players behind them started to spread out. It seemed Ronke and Gulden were finishing strongly. In the 2nd group CoR was way ahead of everyone else.

              - Kicked the ball back and forth in threes

              - Rotated through 3 skill stations
              Picking up a rolling ground ball and getting a handball away after being tackled in congestion.
              6 attackers working the ball past 5 defenders using kicks
              3 attackers running in a line drawing 2 defenders with sideways handballs before kicking to a leading player

              - More skill stations
              Set up in a square with 2 defenders in the middle. Then kicking the ball to one of the other 3 points in the square
              6 attackers handballing past 5 defenders
              3 lanes of players handballing past 2 defenders in a tight space

              - Set up in a large square, run and kick to the opposite diagonal. Two balls in motion.

              - Attacking team structured with 4 backs 4 mids 4 forwards. They work the ball out with short kicks from defence. Then eventually kick long to a ruckman on halfway who taps it down. The attacking team reacts and attacks from the crumbed ball.

              - Using a big wide open area of the field. The attacking team of 5 is set up in 3 wide lanes vs 6 defenders (2fwds-2mids-2backs). They work the ball past the defenders using movement and the width of the field.

              - 12 attackers vs 9 defenders. Attacking team works the ball past the defending team with a focus on keeping their shape.

              - Few players did some shuttle runs. 3 sets of 4x50m shuttles.

              - At the end players were just kicking for goal. The rucks did some work with one of the coaches.

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              • mcs
                Travelling Swannie!!
                • Jul 2007
                • 8166

                #52
                Originally posted by SeanM
                Went down to training Monday morning around 930am. They had already started and were doing some straight line running. It was a big group with a lot of academy/vfl players integrated into the same sesssion as the senior guys. Seemed to be Blakey, Mills, Clarke, Melican and Amartey doing a lighter session on the far side.

                Think they split into 3 groups for 2km. For the first group initially Fox established a reasonable gap, Stephens and Rankin had a clear gap in 2nd and everyone else was in a bunch together. Though in the last lap Rankin tired and dropped off, Stephens finished really strongly and made up some ground on Fox. And the bunch of players behind them started to spread out. It seemed Ronke and Gulden were finishing strongly. In the 2nd group CoR was way ahead of everyone else.

                - Kicked the ball back and forth in threes

                - Rotated through 3 skill stations
                Picking up a rolling ground ball and getting a handball away after being tackled in congestion.
                6 attackers working the ball past 5 defenders using kicks
                3 attackers running in a line drawing 2 defenders with sideways handballs before kicking to a leading player

                - More skill stations
                Set up in a square with 2 defenders in the middle. Then kicking the ball to one of the other 3 points in the square
                6 attackers handballing past 5 defenders
                3 lanes of players handballing past 2 defenders in a tight space

                - Set up in a large square, run and kick to the opposite diagonal. Two balls in motion.

                - Attacking team structured with 4 backs 4 mids 4 forwards. They work the ball out with short kicks from defence. Then eventually kick long to a ruckman on halfway who taps it down. The attacking team reacts and attacks from the crumbed ball.

                - Using a big wide open area of the field. The attacking team of 5 is set up in 3 wide lanes vs 6 defenders (2fwds-2mids-2backs). They work the ball past the defenders using movement and the width of the field.

                - 12 attackers vs 9 defenders. Attacking team works the ball past the defending team with a focus on keeping their shape.

                - Few players did some shuttle runs. 3 sets of 4x50m shuttles.

                - At the end players were just kicking for goal. The rucks did some work with one of the coaches.
                Fantastic, thanks for the update Really interesting to hear a bit more detail about early pre-season training. Interesting sounding attacking drills - I have zero understanding of what is the 'norm' in that regard, but it fits broadly with the way we tried to play last year in the way you describe those drills.


                Originally posted by Thunder Shaker
                It's not called the silly season for no reason.
                So very true..... I'm sure we will get many more classic nonsense comments before the (usually insert long and hot here - but not so sure this year) Summer is out!
                Last edited by mcs; 6 December 2021, 08:32 PM.
                "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                • Aprilbr
                  Senior Player
                  • Oct 2016
                  • 1803

                  #53
                  I'm excited about how fit the boys look. Competition for midfield spots will be intense. I'm expecting a breakout year for Dylan Stephens. He is looking super fit and much stronger.

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                  • TheBloods
                    Suspended by the MRP
                    • Feb 2020
                    • 2047

                    #54
                    Originally posted by mcs
                    Only because the bites keep coming

                    No doubt we will have further moments of absurdity to come over the long pre-season ahead.
                    What are you on about , i said nothing absurd at all , made a few comments about the players that others have said the same about , and asked a question about 2 others who i thought might be injured or something , why do you have to turn everything into an argument , you say you dont like the nastiness but thats all you do even when i say something positive

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                    • COB
                      Pushing for Selection
                      • Jan 2021
                      • 89

                      #55
                      Originally posted by TheBloods
                      What are you on about , i said nothing absurd at all , made a few comments about the players that others have said the same about , and asked a question about 2 others who i thought might be injured or something , why do you have to turn everything into an argument , you say you dont like the nastiness but thats all you do even when i say something positive
                      Spot On.

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                      • Meg
                        Go Swannies!
                        Site Admin
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 4828

                        #56
                        Lol, check out @naismith10 Instagram post made this afternoon. Sam hasn’t given up on his playing career!

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                        • wolftone57
                          Veterans List
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 5857

                          #57
                          To tell the truth pre-season training does not rock my boat. As a player I was not too fond of it as the first thing we did was a 10,000 metre run. Then we did 10 X 100 metre sprints, 20 X 200 metre sprints, then airobic exercises. Gyms were not a big thing in those days, it was all about aerobic fitness and then after that the balls came out.

                          Bloody hell. I can remember being on Rathmines Oval until 7:30pm of we lost a match in the A grade. The reserves were struggling to get a team but the A's were very close to the top 4.

                          I believe the proof of the efficacy of pre-season training is in the games. The preseason games are for trying things. I hope they actually get to do that this season


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                          Last edited by wolftone57; 7 December 2021, 06:11 PM.

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                          • mcs
                            Travelling Swannie!!
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 8166

                            #58
                            Originally posted by TheBloods
                            What are you on about , i said nothing absurd at all , made a few comments about the players that others have said the same about , and asked a question about 2 others who i thought might be injured or something , why do you have to turn everything into an argument , you say you dont like the nastiness but thats all you do even when i say something positive
                            Take a chill pill man!

                            The second part of the comment wasn't directed at you or your post - apologies if you interpreted it that way. It was meant as a general comment about the board itself (as per my follow up response to Thunder Shaker), and indeed a shot at my own sarcastic extrapolation on the original comment re: Parker and Hayward. Preseason always brings along many absurd posts, as we are all starved of footy to actually watch and comments invariably go down the rabbit warren to all sorts of strange places. I.e. we've had a running update on the amateur cricket career of a couple of out players for weeks on end ha. That was all I was referring to - I should have made it a separate comment to be exceedingly clear.

                            Stop looking for a fence in every post. Try looking for a gate instead - have a laugh, think to yourself that person is an idiot, and walk right on through.
                            Last edited by mcs; 8 December 2021, 09:54 AM.
                            "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                            • mcs
                              Travelling Swannie!!
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 8166

                              #59
                              Originally posted by wolftone57
                              To tell the truth pre-season training does not rock my boat. As a player I was not too fond of it as the first thing we did was a 10,000 metre run. Then we did 10 X 100 metre sprints, 20 X 200 metre sprints, then airobic exercises. Gyms were not a big thing in those days, it was all about aerobic fitness and then after that the balls came out.

                              Bloody hell. I can remember being on Rathmines Oval until 7:30pm of we lost a match in the A grade. The reserves were struggling to get a team but the A's were very close to the top 4.

                              I believe the proof of the efficacy of pre-season training is in the games. The preseason games are for trying things. I hope they actually get to do that this season


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                              Beyond a complete lack of footballing (indeed same applies for most sports) ability, it is hearing about gruelling pre-season workouts like that which make me glad pursuing professional sport was never something I got anywhere near..... 10K run followed by sprints.... just kill me already!
                              "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                              • wolftone57
                                Veterans List
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 5857

                                #60
                                Originally posted by mcs
                                Take a chill pill man!

                                The second part of the comment wasn't directed at you or your post - apologies if you interpreted it that way. It was meant as a general comment about the board itself (as per my follow up response to Thunder Shaker) - preseason always brings along many absurd posts, as we are all starved of footy to actually watch and comments invariably go down the rabbit warren to all sorts of strange places. I.e. we've had a running update on the amateur cricket career of a couple of out players for weeks on end ha. That was all I was referring to - I should have made it a separate comment to be exceedingly clear.
                                I loathe this time of year. I am not a huge cricket fan. Footy is the only game I really love. Have played, footy, basketball, cricket, softball, volleyball, badminton, tennis, squash, athletics. Umpired and played mixed Netball. But as a sport to watch nothing beats Aussie Rules.

                                Pre-season is even harder for me now that I am nearly 6,000 kilometres away. There is a certain amount of disconnect. Social media and the news sites only give a certain amount of info. I used to love to have a look at training. Watch the ressies live. But can no longer do that. I am at the moment looking at replays of our 2021 matches.

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