Swans VFL 2022

[Nico]

Its interesting to examine the composition of the VFL ladder this season. Most of the Victorian teams who are not affiliated with an AFL club really struggled to win games. They just don't have the money or talent to compete with a rival that has a healthy proportion of players who are full-time professional footballers. I watched the Coburg Lions a few times this season as I live near their ground. This is Fox's old Club. They tried really hard each week and won a few home games against the other non-affiliated teams but otherwise struggled. They are typical of the non-affiliated teams and have maybe two players who would make the Swans Reserves team.

Affiliated clubs like the Casey Demons and Swans who had the riches of the fringe players from a top finishing senior team did well. Gold Coast had an expanded list due to AFL concessions. Southport is the outlier. They are the dominant Club on the Gold Coast and have access to considerable money from their pokies club. They have a number of ex-AFL players on their list and these are well paid.

Overall, I think this competition is better for player development than the old NEAFL as there is a greater number of competitive teams to play against, but its far from perfect.

I have for some time believed that the AFL should have anointed Southport rather than establish the Gold Coast Club. Southport is on the Gold Coast, has a very good oval and already had an established Club. It would have been far cheaper to make the ground into a 40,000 capacity venue with an established supporter base.

[Aprilbr]

Jack Maibaum also in that team playing for the 3rd bottom team. Will AFL clubs calling for him

As Jack plays for Coburg I saw him play a bit this season (see above comments). He played as fullback or centre half back in a team that lost a lot. I would say he was handy but not dominant. Good spoiler and kick. Not a lot of intercept marks which is what they like to see these days. He plays more like Melican and less lke Paddy . I doubt he will get picked up by an AFL team but I hope I am wrong.

[Aprilbr]

Bit of a sad fizzle to our season in the end - going out in straight sets. Was disappointing to lose to the Suns, although they do have a lot of listed players. We haven't got a great track record at winning finals (especially grannies) in the reserves.

On the other hand, I take some pleasure in three of the four prelim finalists in the VFL being from north of the border.

Its interesting to examine the composition of the VFL ladder this season. Most of the Victorian teams who are not affiliated with an AFL club really struggled to win games. They just don't have the money or talent to compete with a rival that has a healthy proportion of players who are full-time professional footballers. I watched the Coburg Lions a few times this season as I live near their ground. This is Fox's old Club. They tried really hard each week and won a few home games against the other non-affiliated teams but otherwise struggled. They are typical of the non-affiliated teams and have maybe two players who would make the Swans Reserves team.

Affiliated clubs like the Casey Demons and Swans who had the riches of the fringe players from a top finishing senior team did well. Gold Coast had an expanded list due to AFL concessions. Southport is the outlier. They are the dominant Club on the Gold Coast and have access to considerable money from their pokies club. They have a number of ex-AFL players on their list and these are well paid.

Overall, I think this competition is better for player development than the old NEAFL as there is a greater number of competitive teams to play against, but its far from perfect.

[ugg]

Jack Maibaum also in that team playing for the 3rd bottom team. Will AFL clubs calling for him

[Aprilbr]

Three Swans named in VFL Team of the Year

That's the kiss of death. Taylor and Gould highly likely to be gone at season's end although I recognise some on here are very keen on retaining the latter. Will he be delisted or ask to be traded? Armetey may also ask to be traded for opportunities elsewhere but is still under contract.

[Maltopia]

Three Swans named in VFL Team of the Year

[dejavoodoo44]

Bit of a sad fizzle to our season in the end - going out in straight sets. Was disappointing to lose to the Suns, although they do have a lot of listed players. We haven't got a great track record at winning finals (especially grannies) in the reserves.

On the other hand, I take some pleasure in three of the four prelim finalists in the VFL being from north of the border.

Yes, the VFL is about as well named as the rookie list.

[bloodspirit]

Bit of a sad fizzle to our season in the end - going out in straight sets. Was disappointing to lose to the Suns, although they do have a lot of listed players. We haven't got a great track record at winning finals (especially grannies) in the reserves.

On the other hand, I take some pleasure in three of the four prelim finalists in the VFL being from north of the border.

[Mr Magoo]

I wholeheartedly agree that Rhyce is a far better development coach than Laidler, from my observations too. And what peeves me the most about Laidler is that there is no real heads-up on the reserves team pre or post. As a final nail in the coffin is the supposed writeup for the final game against GC. It reads more about the GC players than a specific write-up for the Swans team. Very disappointing by the Swans and this has been so the the whole season. Very little about the players by Laidler. Have a look at the other VFL team reports , they are more specific and elaborate about the players. Love to bring Rhyce back to the Swans

Id say thats more to do with the Swans slashing back office during covid and therefore comms staff rather than laidler.

[rickmat]

I wholeheartedly agree that Rhyce is a far better development coach than Laidler, from my observations too. And what peeves me the most about Laidler is that there is no real heads-up on the reserves team pre or post. As a final nail in the coffin is the supposed writeup for the final game against GC. It reads more about the GC players than a specific write-up for the Swans team. Very disappointing by the Swans and this has been so the the whole season. Very little about the players by Laidler. Have a look at the other VFL team reports , they are more specific and elaborate about the players. Love to bring Rhyce back to the Swans

[Goal Sneak]

Fair call. I only asked because like a boss at work , seeing what you think someone coaches like is far different to being coached by them. I have no opinion on laidler but the results he has achieved to date are okay without being fantastic albeit he has to deal with a team that week to week can be very different. Its actually a pretty hard role the way the swans run their reserves team - you have probably a core of listed players that are there on a week to week to basis but then a group of top ups that changes , the odd academy kid and then the players who are hovering between firsts and reserves . All of them trying to prove a point for differing motivations.

Hard way to build team cohesion with players that have no idea of the others game styles and maybe why the role is more suited to someone like Rhys who probably is far more passionate in the moment.

Good points. I may be a bit harsh on Laidler, no doubt he's in a difficult role in terms of consistency with the squad. He definitely does not show as much passion but that's not to say he's not passionate. I can't help but feel the younger boys would really appreciate the approach of Rhyce who wears his heart on his sleeve and seems to be more personable.

[Mr Magoo]

Possibly the case. I'm of the opinion that Shaw is a much better coach than Laidler. I was simply lamenting that he's not in the role Laidler currently holds.

Fair call. I only asked because like a boss at work , seeing what you think someone coaches like is far different to being coached by them. I have no opinion on laidler but the results he has achieved to date are okay without being fantastic albeit he has to deal with a team that week to week can be very different. Its actually a pretty hard role the way the swans run their reserves team - you have probably a core of listed players that are there on a week to week to basis but then a group of top ups that changes , the odd academy kid and then the players who are hovering between firsts and reserves . All of them trying to prove a point for differing motivations.

Hard way to build team cohesion with players that have no idea of the others game styles and maybe why the role is more suited to someone like Rhys who probably is far more passionate in the moment.

[Goal Sneak]

Two different roles aren't they (me don't doing any searching)? Shaw was more of a development coach and Laidler an assistant/line coach?

Possibly the case. I'm of the opinion that Shaw is a much better coach than Laidler. I was simply lamenting that he's not in the role Laidler currently holds.

[RogueSwan]

Based on my opinion and what I've seen and heard from both. Laidler is uninspiring for me. Rhyce seems more passionate, switched on and genuine. I think the players responded better to him. Laidler seems more robotic and clinical without a lot of tactical nous. Is that fair enough?

Two different roles aren't they (me don't doing any searching)? Shaw was more of a development coach and Laidler an assistant/line coach?

[Goal Sneak]

Based on what facts ? Not trying to be cheeky here but have both coached you ?

Based on my opinion and what I've seen and heard from both. Laidler is uninspiring for me. Rhyce seems more passionate, switched on and genuine. I think the players responded better to him. Laidler seems more robotic and clinical without a lot of tactical nous. Is that fair enough?