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  • Mark26
    Senior Player
    • Jan 2017
    • 1535

    Originally posted by liz
    Can anyone provide hints about how to actually watch the stream? The page I linked above states it is being streamed but I can't find a link to the actual stream anywhere.
    Is this it? Watch it LIVE: Allies v Western Australia from 12.30pm ACST

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    • liz
      Veteran
      Site Admin
      • Jan 2003
      • 16773

      The link has just become live. I've verified it wasn't just me - there's a BF thread commenting on how the link wasn't working til just recently. Looks like we might have missed the best Allies play of the series so far, judging by the score.

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      • 707
        Veterans List
        • Aug 2009
        • 6204

        Originally posted by liz
        The link has just become live. I've verified it wasn't just me - there's a BF thread commenting on how the link wasn't working til just recently. Looks like we might have missed the best Allies play of the series so far, judging by the score.
        Have to watch a replay.

        Appreciate your thoughts on what you do catch Liz

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        • vicswan
          Registered User
          • Oct 2021
          • 11

          just found out that Chris Smith has left the academy. effective immediately
          he was head of the academy for 14 years
          no information from the swans?

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          • Mr Magoo
            Senior Player
            • May 2008
            • 1255

            Originally posted by vicswan
            just found out that Chris Smith has left the academy. effective immediately
            he was head of the academy for 14 years
            no information from the swans?
            Looks like a bit of a changing of the guard with Crouchy leaving earlier this year.

            A lot of lost experience but from what I’ve heard from different parents , maybe it could do with a shakeup as well.

            From different parents some of the common comments were :
            1. Lack of direct feedback to the boys both during the season and at the end to help their improvement.
            2. Boys being suddenly shunned without any real feedback as to why
            3. Lack of meaningful feedback when boys are cut.

            Will be interesting to see if Nick Davis stays on.

            Anyone know if he was pushed ?


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            • ugg
              Can you feel it?
              Site Admin
              • Jan 2003
              • 15970

              Swans Academy Games - 2022.

              Small report at the end of this article

              smh

              The last line sounds a tad ominous

              The club expects to use the opportunity presented to re-assess the program’s priorities and where resources are directed with the academies vital to the Giants, Gold Coast and Brisbane Lions’ programs
              Last edited by ugg; 20 July 2022, 04:35 PM.
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              • Ruck'n'Roll
                Ego alta, ergo ictus
                • Nov 2003
                • 3990

                Originally posted by Mr Magoo
                Looks like a bit of a changing of the guard with Crouchy leaving earlier this year.

                A lot of lost experience but from what I’ve heard from different parents , maybe it could do with a shakeup as well.

                From different parents some of the common comments were :
                1. Lack of direct feedback to the boys both during the season and at the end to help their improvement.
                2. Boys being suddenly shunned without any real feedback as to why
                3. Lack of meaningful feedback when boys are cut.

                Will be interesting to see if Nick Davis stays on.

                Anyone know if he was pushed ?
                Leaving aside the above issue, there's another thing I don't understand.
                In the last 8 drafts, we've picked up 4 Scholarship 1st rounders. Blakey, Mills, Heeney and Campbell.
                That's 1 every 2 years, and so far no failures.
                So far so good. But where are the Scholarship selections from outside the first round? - since 2014, I think there only been 1 - Errol Gulden and that's it. And the same dearth of selections applies to the rookies. McAndrew was a mid season pick - but there's litle else.
                It's not a huge sample I know. It could be a statistical anomaly, but when it comes to the Scholarship draftee profile we're defintely not talking a bell curve.
                I wonder whether anyones asking that question?

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                • dejavoodoo44
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 8637

                  Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
                  Leaving aside the above issue, there's another thing I don't understand.
                  In the last 8 drafts, we've picked up 4 Scholarship 1st rounders. Blakey, Mills, Heeney and Campbell.
                  That's 1 every 2 years, and so far no failures.
                  So far so good. But where are the Scholarship selections from outside the first round? - since 2014, I think there only been 1 - Errol Gulden and that's it. And the same dearth of selections applies to the rookies. McAndrew was a mid season pick - but there's litle else.
                  It's not a huge sample I know. It could be a statistical anomaly, but when it comes to the Scholarship draftee profile we're defintely not talking a bell curve.
                  I wonder whether anyones asking that question?
                  Quite a few have come through the rookie list: Bell, Wicks, Sheather, Naismith. In previous years there's been Foote, Brandon Jack. Not sure if Kieran came through the academy? There's probably a fair few that never got off the rookie list and a few others that I can't recall at the moment?

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                  • Maltopia
                    Senior Player
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 1556

                    Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                    Quite a few have come through the rookie list: Bell, Wicks, Sheather, Naismith. In previous years there's been Foote, Brandon Jack. Not sure if Kieran came through the academy? There's probably a fair few that never got off the rookie list and a few others that I can't recall at the moment?
                    Dan Robinson was one. I was quite disappointed he was let go after his shoulder injuries etc. Thought he was a decent though bottom six player.

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                    • dejavoodoo44
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 8637

                      Originally posted by Maltopia
                      Dan Robinson was one. I was quite disappointed he was let go after his shoulder injuries etc. Thought he was a decent though bottom six player.
                      Yes, now that you mentioned it, I remember being quite surprised when he was cut, as I thought he'd played a few quality senior games.

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                      • ugg
                        Can you feel it?
                        Site Admin
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 15970

                        Don’t forget (or maybe you should) Hiscox and Abe Davis. And how about the ones who have ended up at other clubs Ben Davis and Luke Parks
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                        • jono2707
                          Goes up to 11
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 3326

                          Originally posted by Maltopia
                          Dan Robinson was one. I was quite disappointed he was let go after his shoulder injuries etc. Thought he was a decent though bottom six player.
                          He decided to pursue other career opportunities outside of footy - sounds like he figured out he'd pretty much always be a fringe player, got his education while with the Swans then decided to focus on the longer term for himself.

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                          • cherub
                            Warming the Bench
                            • May 2010
                            • 239

                            Originally posted by Maltopia
                            Dan Robinson was one. I was quite disappointed he was let go after his shoulder injuries etc. Thought he was a decent though bottom six player.
                            Yes. Me too. He was building nicely with a run of a few games when Brendan Goddard lined him up and deliberately smashed into him, breaking his clavicle. He never seemed to get a decent run at it.

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                            • i'm-uninformed2
                              Reefer Madness
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 4653

                              Let’s not count Blakey as one. We got kissed on the arse by a rainbow with that arrangement.

                              But overall, it has been a success. I guess it’s maybe a question of the club assessing the quantum of investment. A bit like when Roos was asked to take a 50 percent pay cut.
                              'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                              • Ruck'n'Roll
                                Ego alta, ergo ictus
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 3990

                                Thanks for the suggestions all, though outside the arbitrary 8 year paramenter, still interesting.

                                As deja noted, we curently have 4 ex rookies from the academy on the list, and 4 first rounders from the academy from the list - and only Errol taken outside of those two extremes. It's a donut not a bell curve, is the point. I don't know what it means, it's just odd.
                                Last edited by Ruck'n'Roll; 21 July 2022, 10:05 AM.

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