Match thread: Swans v Suns.

[longmile]

We were kicking to the midfield but there was no Swans player there.

I partially agree with you. They often outnumbered us in the corridor looking to cut off our advantage but still on multiple occasions we would have someone relatively free in the corridor ready to cut them up through the middle only for us to kick it over there head or to the advantage of suns players. And often these weren't rushed kicks

[Nico]

Some observations.

Gulden is wasted on the wing. Got most of his possessions backward of centre.
Hayward is an unaccountable footballer, undisciplined, poor by foot and now is intent on giving away stupid 50's and free kicks. He is a nomad out there. No doubt he will put his hand out for his cheque again this week.
Now that Papley has 2 games under his belt put him on the ball.
We need field kicking practice and a lot of it. We hardly got a transitional possession in the midfield.
Do something about the centre clearance work for goodness sake.
Sides are now tagging Heeney and Jmac, and Jmac is feeling it.
Sides have worked out to play us one on one. Footscray, North and Gold Coast have really showed our soft underbelly.
Tom McCartin has to be told not to short pass. Stuffs it up most times.
Tortoise McLean should not have played ahead of Reid. At least Sam completes and it takes McLean's brain 5 minutes to tell him to hand pass.
Kennedy is as slow as a Sydney wet week and refuses to move the ball on. Wasn't our worst but takes away from a quick game.
Geez Campbell is a wasted talent in the backline. We need to have him kicking forward of the centre.
Our negative mindset has returned.
Can't blame the forwards. 2 weeks in a row the delivery to them has been so poor. This week it was also lack of delivery.
Thank goodness we recruited P.Mccartin.
Ollie was ok but I now think that we miss his run in the midfield. Put him on the wing and Gulden forward.

[Nico]

I partially agree with you. They often outnumbered us in the corridor looking to cut off our advantage but still on multiple occasions we would have someone relatively free in the corridor ready to cut them up through the middle only for us to kick it over there head or to the advantage of suns players. And often these weren't rushed kicks

All that. When we had someone there it seemed to be the wrong option. Hayward's horrid kick in the last quarter said it all. Might be one of the poorest players to play 100 games.

[Merdo5555]

Buddy's discipline was terrible, more free kicks than goals isnt on. Papley needs a week in the reserves to get his touch.

If anyone in the reserves is screaming out for a game get them I think there are plenty of candidates for a rest. Poos skills is one thing but the inconsistent effort is unacceptable.Wanting to play half the game is not good enough.

Umpires were dreadful 3 50's against Sydney yet 2 blatant 50's not paid to the Swans. Its time for Longmire to cut loose and just pay the fine. Being quiet and raising it with the Umpires during the week isnt working.

[dimelb]

You think if they played 2 on Heeney and buddy then papley, Hayward, McLean or Logan could get free?

I only noticed it when the ball come into our 50 arc sometimes, not throughout the game.

[Nico]

Buddy's discipline was terrible, more free kicks than goals isnt on. Papley needs a week in the reserves to get his touch.

If anyone in the reserves is screaming out for a game get them I think there are plenty of candidates for a rest. Poos skills is one thing but the inconsistent effort is unacceptable.Wanting to play half the game is not good enough.

Umpires were dreadful 3 50's against Sydney yet 2 blatant 50's not paid to the Swans. Its time for Longmire to cut loose and just pay the fine. Being quiet and raising it with the Umpires during the week isnt working.

Agree he gave away too many frees but he was clearly frustrated by the poor delivery to the forward line.

That non 50 in the last quarter says it all. I reckon there was a number of times the umps ignore GS players in the 5 metre zone.

[mcs]

Agree he gave away too many frees but he was clearly frustrated by the poor delivery to the forward line.

That non 50 in the last quarter says it all. I reckon there was a number of times the umps ignore GS players in the 5 metre zone.

I don't care if they don't pay them unless it's blatant actions that impact on the contest. But they ignored 2 or 3 ones today where they had an actual impact on the play and the man with the ball.

I hate the 50s given when infringements actually have zero impact on the contest. Get the player in the right spot and play on. Once it actively impacts the play then it should be 50.

I still think they should move to making it 25 or 30m instead of 50m. Too big a penalty in the modern game for mine.

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[giant]

Agree he gave away too many frees but he was clearly frustrated by the poor delivery to the forward line.

That non 50 in the last quarter says it all. I reckon there was a number of times the umps ignore GS players in the 5 metre zone.

There were several more obvious 50m penalties that they didn't pay to us than the ones they did pay against us. But anyway...

Last week we were beaten by a more experienced more professional team - no shame in that/ This week we were beaten by a hungrier harder working team - no excuse for that.

When the effort level did go up, the skills plummeted. 8.13 at your home ground in perfect conditions against a competition struggler is just unforgiveable. The pundits were suggesting our early season conversion rate and efficiency inside 50 were unsustainable, and I discounted it as Melbourne media jealousy. But watching Heeney miss from 30m directly in front, I realised they were right.

Some soul searching required to turn this season around, or it will become a wasted opportunity.

[stevoswan]

Umpires were dreadful 3 50's against Sydney yet 2 blatant 50's not paid to the Swans. Its time for Longmire to cut loose and just pay the fine. Being quiet and raising it with the Umpires during the week isnt working.

In last nights game I must have seen Bulldogs players move on the mark at least four times and not once were they pinged.....it was nauseating but sadly no surprise that we copped the opposite today. Must be wonderful to be a protected species.

[i'm-uninformed2]

So, for the past month, I think we look like a side that was near the bottom of the ladder two years ago, have started a rise but are still prone to flat spots and inconsistencies.

A few of the young guys looked a bit cooked today. Gulden was given a lesson by Ellis today, it was the first time I’d say Campbell had been beaten this year, McInerney was ok but will need to get used to being tagged and McDonald still flashes in and out of games.

As for our field kicking, the lack of synchronicity with the intended target was way off - even amongst our better kicks. How much that was on the head of the kicker or the target not reading the cue of the kicker, hard to tell off the television. But we need to sort it out pronto as it has been a consistent issue.

[mcs]

So, for the past month, I think we look like a side that was near the bottom of the ladder two years ago, have started a rise but are still prone to flat spots and inconsistencies.

A few of the young guys looked a bit cooked today. Gulden was given a lesson by Ellis today, it was the first time I’d say Campbell had been beaten this year, McInerney was ok but will need to get used to being tagged and McDonald still flashes in and out of games.

As for our field kicking, the lack of synchronicity with the intended target was way off - even amongst our better kicks. How much that was on the head of the kicker or the target not reading the cue of the kicker, hard to tell off the television. But we need to sort it out pronto as it has been a consistent issue.

At the ground I thought a lot of it was just terrible no look/no thought kicks. Hack it and hope, many times under no pressure at all.

There was no dash and hard running today to open up the game. Players looked like their legs were made of lead. So many chains where gold coast got uncontested possession after uncontested possession because they simply were working harder.

Flat as a tack today, and damn disappointing. Really thought when we levelled up at 3/4 time we would kick on. But we saved the worst for last - utterly woeful last quarter that could of went for 2 hours and we wouldn't have done anything.

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[stevoswan]

Such a shame the 2012 boys had to sit and watch that crap!

The Bloods Culture was insulted today.

[Markwebbos]

Unfortunate how poorly we play at home these days. We really have become a team that plays better on the road. Not sure what the problem is?

[Roadrunner]

The Bloods Culture was insulted today.

Such a shame by the sound of it Stevo. I’m kind of glad I didn’t watch as I would be awfully upset with an insipid display.
Let’s hope the lads take this to heart and not let it happen again. Maybe the 2012 team could have played instead?

[rojo]

I only watched the last quarter. I was watching our VFL game and when they gave the 1/2 time score at the SCG I decided to keep on watching the game at Werribee! It turned out to be a good choice.

Was Gulden actually playing and Ronke? I don't think I saw them at all (at the SCG game)?

I was at the recent game in Launceston and experienced the team playing the same absolutely awful football. As in holding the ball until players upfield were manned up and then kicking it to a player who was being marked by someone twice their size, that is if it went anywhere near them, or to a pack where our talls were being out-marked.
Then upfield players were playing from behind, unable to make space, so no movement. Where is the running and making-space game we were playing? Too many players seem to be playing with their footy brains in their pockets and also expecting too much from too few.

Today, unfortunately for us all, they did not get to flick the switch in the last quarter as happened in the Hawthorn game, much to the amazement of everybody! A lowering of expectations and a large dose of patience may be required of us as this season rolls on, if we don't or can't change up a few things.