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  • Meg
    Go Swannies!
    Site Admin
    • Aug 2011
    • 4828

    Originally posted by longmile

    I'm not sure if its (loud music) a Swans only focus. My memories of going to the MCG (pre-Covid) and Homebush was quite similar. May be an AFL directive?
    I think you are right about it being an AFL directive. I could hear loud music blaring out through the TV at a match I was watching being played at Adelaide Oval last weekend. I’ve been to plenty of matches at Adelaide Oval pre-Covid and that used not to be the case.

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    • Ruck'n'Roll
      Ego alta, ergo ictus
      • Nov 2003
      • 3990

      Originally posted by Meg
      I question if they have any evidence that relentless, ear-splitting music brings new fans to the footy. I suspect loud-music lovers go to concerts, gigs etc. for their entertainment not to football.
      Don't get me wrong I grew up in the "Jurassic Period of Pub Rock" and very glad to have done so - as the philosopher once said "this is it baby, over the top," but the game day excretiance they have created shows a complete lack of understanding (and disinterest) of the customers relationship to the product they are selling.

      Harley assumes that the rusted on Swans fans won't cancel their memberships/stop attending. Football fans are even less likely to change their teams than customers are to change their bank. Which means all the new members/attendees the game day excretiance are pure cream - unless people like us actually start to be driven away.

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      • erica
        Happy and I know it
        • Jan 2008
        • 1247

        The excruciating noise is one of the reasons we don't go to the footy anymore. Members since 1996, we watch games on tv now with the volume turned down.
        All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke

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        • royboy42
          Senior Player
          • Apr 2006
          • 2076

          There are several reasons I have decreased my attendance the last couple of years.
          Covid, of course, the unavoidable ageing process, the number of night games, the harder to find parking, but the bloody MUSIC!!!!
          There's the nail in the coffin.
          When do you get a chance to talk to your mates, to relive goals, to bemoan poor play?
          If we want to turn the atmosphere into twenty over cricket hysteria, so be it.
          I hope the next gen loves it and keep coming.
          I doubt it, but its such a wonderful game that they just might....and I may just be becoming an old curmudgeon.
          I do resent 'we make no apologies' though.

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          • TheBloods
            Suspended by the MRP
            • Feb 2020
            • 2047

            Now ive seen everything

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            • dejavoodoo44
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2015
              • 8570

              Originally posted by Meg
              I think you are right about it being an AFL directive. I could hear loud music blaring out through the TV at a match I was watching being played at Adelaide Oval last weekend. I’ve been to plenty of matches at Adelaide Oval pre-Covid and that used not to be the case.
              Yes, it was only last season that Metricon went with the too loud to talk over, tedious commercial FM playlist. Probably the year before for the Gabba.

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              • rickmat
                Regular in the Side
                • Mar 2018
                • 500

                Fellow RWO's, I came to Sydney in mid '70s and attended the early days of the relocated Swans. The highlight of each game were the Swanettes from Oxford St, dancing to the music each time the Swans kicked a goal, which wasn't too often ha ha. What a sight of these Swanettes dancing to the French Can Can. It was hilarious. Far better entertainment than the ridiculous music being played at the bloody levels to blow your ear drums which is not entertainment nor necessary. Someone should call in the Environment Department to check the music levels and get them banned!!!!

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                • dejavoodoo44
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 8570

                  Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
                  Don't get me wrong I grew up in the "Jurassic Period of Pub Rock" and very glad to have done so - as the philosopher once said "this is it baby, over the top," but the game day excretiance they have created shows a complete lack of understanding (and disinterest) of the customers relationship to the product they are selling.

                  Harley assumes that the rusted on Swans fans won't cancel their memberships/stop attending. Football fans are even less likely to change their teams than customers are to change their bank. Which means all the new members/attendees the game day excretiance are pure cream - unless people like us actually start to be driven away.
                  Yes, I love music and over the years, I must have been to many hundreds of loud live gigs. But it really is a matter of choice. I would often make the choice to get off my face and throw myself around to very loud music. But when I make the choice to go to the footy, want I want to do is firstly watch the game, but also want to socialise with fellow Swans fans and perhaps have a bit of banter with opposing fans. I don't choose to have the socialising rendered impossible by somebody else's crap taste in music. Nor do I like no longer being able to choose to listen to my own music, on good quality headphones, because the volume of the music coming over the PA drowns it out.

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                  • KTigers
                    Senior Player
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 2499

                    Originally posted by bloodspirit
                    I hate this too! It sucked that when I asked them about it directly at the AGM Tom Harley said "we make no apologies" and that they are aware it is not universally popular but apparently they feel it works well at bringing new fans to the game.
                    Yep, if you are planning on continuing to go to games in the future you may as well get used to it. The AFL and the clubs know full well
                    it push some fans out the door but they are prepared to sacrifice them in their quest for larger numbers of new fans. Don't take it
                    personally, it's just business and changing times.
                    Last edited by KTigers; 10 May 2022, 09:09 PM.

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                    • dejavoodoo44
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 8570

                      Originally posted by KTigers
                      Yep, if you are planning on continuing to go to games in the future you may as well get used to it. The AFL and the clubs know full well
                      it push some fans out the door but they are prepared to sacrifice them in their quest for larger numbers of new fans. Don't take it
                      personally, it's just business and changing times.
                      Yes, but is it good for business? Who would really be attracted by around ten minutes of generally run of the mill music, played in intermittent 30 second bursts?

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                      • KTigers
                        Senior Player
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 2499

                        Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                        Yes, but is it good for business? Who would really be attracted by around ten minutes of generally run of the mill music, played in intermittent 30 second bursts?
                        The thinking is for the 'new fan' the game itself is not enough. The 'new fan' doesn't want what we've all been happy with for decades.
                        The 'new fan' wants music, clips from the new Marvel movie, to be able to tweet photos of them and their friends and have them put
                        up on one of the big screens, order food via an app and have it delivered to their seat. They want free merch and competitions to enter.
                        The 'new fan' doesn't know who all the players are. Somewhere in the middle of all this there will be a game going on that many of us
                        old school fans will be straining to concentrate on. The rest will have given up and retreated to the peace and quiet of the couch at
                        home. This is the future, and as Tom Harley says, they make no apologies for it.
                        Last edited by KTigers; 10 May 2022, 10:10 PM.

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                        • Bangalore Swans
                          Suspended by the MRP
                          • Mar 2021
                          • 1049

                          Originally posted by KTigers
                          The thinking is for the 'new fan' the game itself is not enough. The 'new fan' doesn't want what we've all been happy with for decades.
                          The 'new fan' wants music, clips from the new Marvel movie, to be able to tweet photos of them and their friends and have them put
                          up on one of the big screens, order food via an app and have it delivered to their seat. They want free merch and competitions to enter.
                          The 'new fan' doesn't know who all the players are. Somewhere in the middle of all this there will be a game going on that many of us
                          old school fans will be straining to concentrate on. The rest will have given up and retreated to the peace and quiet of the couch at
                          home. This is the future, and as Tom Harley says, they make no apologies for it.
                          This is where the SCG needs to get too. We are only giving about 10% of this. The players like Chad, Heeney and Buddy need to get in on this as well.

                          Time to switch to “Jump Around”.


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                          Originally posted by KTigers
                          The thinking is for the 'new fan' the game itself is not enough. The 'new fan' doesn't want what we've all been happy with for decades.
                          The 'new fan' wants music, clips from the new Marvel movie, to be able to tweet photos of them and their friends and have them put
                          up on one of the big screens, order food via an app and have it delivered to their seat. They want free merch and competitions to enter.
                          The 'new fan' doesn't know who all the players are. Somewhere in the middle of all this there will be a game going on that many of us
                          old school fans will be straining to concentrate on. The rest will have given up and retreated to the peace and quiet of the couch at
                          home. This is the future, and as Tom Harley says, they make no apologies for it.
                          This is where the SCG needs to get too. We are only giving about 10% of this. The players like Chad, Heeney and Buddy need to get in on this as well.

                          Time to switch to “Jump Around”.


                          Wisconsin Badgers Jump Around 9/4/21 - YouTube

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                          • stevoswan
                            Veterans List
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 8548

                            Titus sums things up pretty well.

                            "Sydney keeps threatening to take the next step, but then they turn in these sort of performances.

                            If I was them, I’d ask for a priority pick. Not because they need one, just because it would be fun watching the Melbourne footy media react."

                            Beautiful.

                            Footy is a passion, not some cold hearted, spread sheet dominated rational exercise. On a Monday, you want irrational reaction. You want emotion to trump reaso

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                            • dejavoodoo44
                              Veterans List
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 8570

                              Originally posted by KTigers
                              The thinking is for the 'new fan' the game itself is not enough. The 'new fan' doesn't want what we've all been happy with for decades.
                              The 'new fan' wants music, clips from the new Marvel movie, to be able to tweet photos of them and their friends and have them put
                              up on one of the big screens, order food via an app and have it delivered to their seat. They want free merch and competitions to enter.
                              The 'new fan' doesn't know who all the players are. Somewhere in the middle of all this there will be a game going on that many of us
                              old school fans will be straining to concentrate on. The rest will have given up and retreated to the peace and quiet of the couch at
                              home. This is the future, and as Tom Harley says, they make no apologies for it.
                              The new fans will go quite well with the large number of new administrators, who are desperately trying to justify their large AFL salaries and their all expenses paid American fact finding missions. Of course, the two groups will never quite meet, as corporate boxes tend to shield the administrators from the fans, and the game day experience that they created.

                              As an aside, a part of me doesn't really like arguing against loud music, since I wonder if I'm giving the impression that I'm an aging soul, who doesn't really like music. But trust me, there's still noise that I find genuinely exciting.


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                              • dejavoodoo44
                                Veterans List
                                • Apr 2015
                                • 8570

                                Originally posted by stevoswan
                                Titus sums things up pretty well.

                                "Sydney keeps threatening to take the next step, but then they turn in these sort of performances.

                                If I was them, I’d ask for a priority pick. Not because they need one, just because it would be fun watching the Melbourne footy media react."

                                Beautiful.

                                https://www.titusoreily.com/afl/the-...ound-eight2022
                                And I don't mind his suggestion that the Suns move to Sydney. Assuming that it's a reciprocal arrangement and the Swans move to the Gold Coast. Though perhaps I'm being a touch egocentric there?

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