Rnd 17 - vs Bulldogs at SCG, 7:50 PM, Friday 8 July 2022

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  • RogueSwan
    McVeigh for Brownlow
    • Apr 2003
    • 4602

    #31
    Originally posted by 707
    ... We don't get enough out of Hayward but is there an obvious replacement? ...
    He did top the tackle count, with Parker, on the weekend. The only fwd with 4 or more tackles. Buddy had 3 and Heeney, Papley and McDonald 2.
    Is he playing the role the coaches want him to?
    "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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    • i'm-uninformed2
      Reefer Madness
      • Oct 2003
      • 4653

      #32
      Originally posted by TheBloods
      Dont know if he will , thats the whole point . We dont know ! We do know who wont improve our midfield , check the team sheet for every game this yr thats got us into this mess

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      Florent Hayward , duds

      Mmmm. So I've been open with my frustration of Ollie's inconsistency, and Hayward could do more (though I think there are times he does a bucket of unrewarded work). But I'm not sure either are playing midfield right now. Will certainly not, and Ollie rarely of late.
      'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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      • TheBloods
        Suspended by the MRP
        • Feb 2020
        • 2047

        #33
        Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
        Mmmm. So I've been open with my frustration of Ollie's inconsistency, and Hayward could do more (though I think there are times he does a bucket of unrewarded work). But I'm not sure either are playing midfield right now. Will certainly not, and Ollie rarely of late.
        Want to know why we keep losing ? We have too many who do nothing then after the game they 're excused with look how many tackles they had , the pressure they put on , how much work they do off the ball . Well why dont we try and find some who know how to do things WITH the ball ? Win it and use it well , its not rocket science FFS

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        • RogueSwan
          McVeigh for Brownlow
          • Apr 2003
          • 4602

          #34
          Originally posted by TheBloods
          Want to know why we keep losing ?...
          Because it is a team sport and no one wins everything?
          Originally posted by TheBloods
          ... Well why dont we try and find some who know how to do things WITH the ball ? Win it and use it well , its not rocket science FFS
          and what does the rest of the team do when this one player has the ball? Just sit back and watch? No, they have to do those things "off the ball" that many coaches appear to rate.
          "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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          • Mark26
            Senior Player
            • Jan 2017
            • 1535

            #35
            Looks like English is back for Friday's game.

            I don't think we'll swing too many changes but back in who we have to respond. My tips would be Ladhams and Cunningham in. McDonald and Campbell out.

            If Ladhams is still out of favour, then Amartey. I wouldn't mind seeing Gould at some stage ...

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            • TheBloods
              Suspended by the MRP
              • Feb 2020
              • 2047

              #36
              Originally posted by RogueSwan
              Because it is a team sport and no one wins everything?
              and what does the rest of the team do when this one player has the ball? Just sit back and watch? No, they have to do those things "off the ball" that many coaches appear to rate.
              One player ? Its lots of players . Need more than just 1 involved in a passage to get from ruck contest / kick in to goal . Cmon. You cant get a goal without players getting their hands on the ball in the first place . We are 15th in the comp for disposals . Not good enough

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              • stevoswan
                Veterans List
                • Sep 2014
                • 8560

                #37
                Originally posted by Mark26
                Looks like English is back for Friday's game.

                I don't think we'll swing too many changes but back in who we have to respond. My tips would be Ladhams and Cunningham in. McDonald and Campbell out.

                If Ladhams is still out of favour, then Amartey. I wouldn't mind seeing Gould at some stage ...
                I think we'd all like to see Gould at some stage soon....before he cracks the @@@@'s and heads back to SA.

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                • H2F
                  Warming the Bench
                  • Sep 2021
                  • 159

                  #38
                  Originally posted by stevoswan
                  I think we'd all like to see Gould at some stage soon....before he cracks the @@@@'s and heads back to SA.
                  Gould must be pretty substandard not being able to break into this side

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                  • Nico
                    Veterans List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 11339

                    #39
                    Originally posted by H2F
                    Gould must be pretty substandard not being able to break into this side
                    He is pidgeon holed as a defender. Try him up forward?
                    http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                    • Mark26
                      Senior Player
                      • Jan 2017
                      • 1535

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Nico
                      He is pidgeon holed as a defender. Try him up forward?
                      Some take some time. Dawson took a while in the ressies didn't he? Not as long as Gould, but still. The most frustrated has to be Will himself.

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                      • 707
                        Veterans List
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 6204

                        #41
                        Originally posted by stevoswan
                        I think we'd all like to see Gould at some stage soon....before he cracks the @@@@'s and heads back to SA.
                        Walk up start at the Adelaide Cows.

                        They will be talking to Will and/or his manager on a regular basis, they confirmed it's what they did with Dawson, and I think what they do with most SA players interstate, just see how they are going and letting them know the door is open.

                        Will doesn't have a contract for 2023, Stephens does.

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                        • AB Swannie
                          Senior Player
                          • Mar 2017
                          • 1579

                          #42
                          It bewilders me when fans think that selection should be based on appeasing young players in the 2s so that they don't leave the club. For someone to be appeased and given a go in the 1s, someone else has to be dropped to the 2s. It's a nil sum game. Just pick players who deserve it and who give us the best chance of winning. The only time I would go away from this selection policy is when we are no longer in the hunt for a top 8 position and it may be beneficial to give some young players a development opportunity while senior players manage niggles or go for surgery. We aren't there yet so pick the best team and beat the Bulldogs.

                          FWIW, I have been a bit of a critic of Wicks before. However, I do see some correlation between our best performances when he is in the team and playing well. Therefore, I'll put my hand up and admit that I've underrated the role of the pressure forward. Campbell needs time to develop as a future midfielder so I would drop him and play Wicks for the rest of the season.

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                          • The Big Cat
                            On the veteran's list
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 2356

                            #43
                            Originally posted by 707
                            Walk up start at the Adelaide Cows.

                            They will be talking to Will and/or his manager on a regular basis, they confirmed it's what they did with Dawson, and I think what they do with most SA players interstate, just see how they are going and letting them know the door is open.

                            Will doesn't have a contract for 2023, Stephens does.
                            I’ve never seen so much written about a reserves player who has never, in three years played an outstanding game that screams you’ll have to pick me. If Adelaide think he’s so good they would have offered him a contract at the end of last year before we gave him a crumb off the table.
                            Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                            • TheBloods
                              Suspended by the MRP
                              • Feb 2020
                              • 2047

                              #44
                              Originally posted by H2F
                              Gould must be pretty substandard not being able to break into this side
                              He is

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                              • Blood Fever
                                Veterans List
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 4050

                                #45
                                Originally posted by AB Swannie
                                It bewilders me when fans think that selection should be based on appeasing young players in the 2s so that they don't leave the club. For someone to be appeased and given a go in the 1s, someone else has to be dropped to the 2s. It's a nil sum game. Just pick players who deserve it and who give us the best chance of winning. The only time I would go away from this selection policy is when we are no longer in the hunt for a top 8 position and it may be beneficial to give some young players a development opportunity while senior players manage niggles or go for surgery. We aren't there yet so pick the best team and beat the Bulldogs.

                                FWIW, I have been a bit of a critic of Wicks before. However, I do see some correlation between our best performances when he is in the team and playing well. Therefore, I'll put my hand up and admit that I've underrated the role of the pressure forward. Campbell needs time to develop as a future midfielder so I would drop him and play Wicks for the rest of the season.
                                Agree with all of the above

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