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  • 707
    Veterans List
    • Aug 2009
    • 6204

    #16
    Originally posted by KTigers
    Well, if the AFL is requiring them to have a new stadium (in Hobart presumably) that is a whole different ballgame. The new Allianz is
    costing north of a billion dollars allegedly, so you can see how a nicer Hobart version of Giants Stadium (holding 25,000) might run to
    400 or 500 million. And the only group capable of funding that will be the jolly old taxpayer. The plot thickens.
    Federal Labor could do with a push in Tasmania so I'm sure they'll be keen to pork barrel a new stadium with our money to buy a swag of votes.

    Thinning of the talent pool some more, spreading out a clubs draft picks a bit more, just some of the results of a new team unless the Tasmanian academy can suddenly produce a lot more AFL standard draftees than they currently do.

    Think the AFL has played hard ball to get the Tas Guvment to cough up more money.

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    • Ludwig
      Veterans List
      • Apr 2007
      • 9359

      #17
      In the next 250 millions years or so Tasmania will likely once again be part of a subcontinent Gondwana and it will be possible to drive from Melbourne to Hobart. I think Tassie will then be in a much better position to get that 19th license. They just need to be a little more patient. In the meantime they can try to get the literacy rate over 50%.

      I spent 10 years in Cygnet, Tasmania guiding our Boys from Brazil project that has cone to fruition today. So I have soft spot for Tassie in my heart fro them. It' a geat place with with good growing conditions in warmer summers and a good mix of rednecks and radical new age progressive.They deserve an AFL Team.

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      • TheBloods
        Suspended by the MRP
        • Feb 2020
        • 2047

        #18
        No

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        • KTigers
          Senior Player
          • Apr 2012
          • 2499

          #19
          It is interesting. David Walsh has spent way more on MONA and the art inside it than it's ever going to cost to run a pithy football team.
          And he's a local. I know, he went to my high school for a couple years. They are not all poor down there. We are going down in a couple
          weeks. I'll suggest a MONA sponsorship deal for the 19th team.

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          • Markwebbos
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            • Jul 2016
            • 7186

            #20
            Originally posted by KTigers
            Well, if the AFL is requiring them to have a new stadium (in Hobart presumably) that is a whole different ballgame. The new Allianz is
            costing north of a billion dollars allegedly, so you can see how a nicer Hobart version of Giants Stadium (holding 25,000) might run to
            400 or 500 million. And the only group capable of funding that will be the jolly old taxpayer. The plot thickens.
            That’s pretty outrageous. I run a business and I decide I’d like to expand it but only if the Australian taxpayer chucks in half a billion dollars first.

            That’s some business model

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            • lwjoyner
              Regular in the Side
              • Nov 2004
              • 942

              #21
              whats wrong with sending nth down south. bring back ross oakley.

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              • KTigers
                Senior Player
                • Apr 2012
                • 2499

                #22
                Originally posted by Markwebbos
                That’s pretty outrageous. I run a business and I decide I’d like to expand it but only if the Australian taxpayer chucks in half a billion dollars first.

                That’s some business model
                You will need to "pivot" into the stadium business then MW. The good old taxpayer has gotten to pay for every last one of them.
                That is the business model. My advice though would be to stay away from them. There's no money in them. They are hideously
                expensive to run and always need to be fixed up (I see the Vic Gov is ploughing another $225M into improvements at Marvel).
                Last edited by KTigers; 2 August 2022, 07:53 AM.

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                • Roadrunner
                  Senior Player
                  • Jan 2018
                  • 1445

                  #23
                  Originally posted by lwjoyner
                  whats wrong with sending nth down south. bring back ross oakley.
                  Exactly. Given that we were moved to Sydney, an NRL State, and Fitzroy partially moved up north and morphed into the Brisbane Lions, I can’t see why Norf can’t relocate to Tassie. Call them the Hobart Shinboners! Our name changed when we relocated so no probs there. Tassie deserves a team as they play our game and they will get plenty of local support.

                  Move GWS to Canberra as they don’t have support in Sydney- one team is enough. Brisbane is ok but the Suns will remain a problem - should never have been formed as no supporter base. Shows AFL’s greed and lack of common sense!

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                  • KTigers
                    Senior Player
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 2499

                    #24
                    The Tas government have said time and again that they will not accept a transplanted team.

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                    • Bloods05
                      Senior Player
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 1641

                      #25
                      Originally posted by KTigers
                      The Tas government have said time and again that they will not accept a transplanted team.
                      This is the key point. A relocation is simply off the table. Won't happen.

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                      • Ludwig
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                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9359

                        #26
                        Originally posted by KTigers
                        The Tas government have said time and again that they will not accept a transplanted team.
                        Just like Old Growth forests, the Tassie government thinks Old Growth teams should stay where they are.

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                        • KTigers
                          Senior Player
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 2499

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Ludwig
                          Just like Old Growth forests, the Tassie government thinks Old Growth teams should stay where they are.
                          Yes, well actually there was the odd mix up involving trees down there over the years. As a youngster myself I got pretty handy with my dads
                          chainsaw. It's bloody cold there in winter, you do need firewood. I'm pretty sure that was what all the fuss was about back then. "Elites" with
                          air con trying to stop "Real Tasmanians" from staying warm in winter.

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                          • stevoswan
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                            • Sep 2014
                            • 8543

                            #28
                            Originally posted by KTigers
                            Yes, well actually there was the odd mix up involving trees down there over the years. As a youngster myself I got pretty handy with my dads
                            chainsaw. It's bloody cold there in winter, you do need firewood. I'm pretty sure that was what all the fuss was about back then. "Elites" with
                            air con trying to stop "Real Tasmanians" from staying warm in winter.
                            I find the term elites and it's meaning very confusing....it seems to differ depending on what side of politics one is from. I always thought they were people with money and power but some (those without a well functioning brain or with money and power) think it's those who actually have a brain.....and who threaten their privileged existence. Having said that, I'm all for firewood!

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                            • Ludwig
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                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9359

                              #29
                              Originally posted by KTigers
                              Yes, well actually there was the odd mix up involving trees down there over the years. As a youngster myself I got pretty handy with my dads
                              chainsaw. It's bloody cold there in winter, you do need firewood. I'm pretty sure that was what all the fuss was about back then. "Elites" with
                              air con trying to stop "Real Tasmanians" from staying warm in winter.
                              It can be bloody cold in summer in Tasmania.

                              Everyone has wood burning fireplaces. Even the Greenies. The objection has been over the use of old growth versus regrowth forest. When I was still living in Sydney in 1999, I took a few weeks cycling around Tassie. A few years later after having moved there, I revisited many of the same places and was shocked by the amount of old growth forest destruction in just a few short years. The corruption involving Forestry Tasmania has been tragic.

                              I haven't kept up with politics in Tasmania since moving to Thailand, but generally speaking, I wouldn't trust anything the government was involved in, unless things have dramatically changed in the past 10 years. Tasmania needs a lot more than a footy team to get things right.

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                              • Bloods05
                                Senior Player
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 1641

                                #30
                                Originally posted by stevoswan
                                I find the term elites and it's meaning very confusing....it seems to differ depending on what side of politics one is from. I always thought they were people with money and power but some (those without a well functioning brain or with money and power) think it's those who actually have a brain.....and who threaten their privileged existence. Having said that, I'm all for firewood!
                                Amen to all that.

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