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  • Blood Fever
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2007
    • 4040

    #76
    Originally posted by Bloods05
    Yes. You're missing the fact that Tasmania has a long and rich football tradition, and that it wouldn't take much to revive it. The northern states, by contrast, are trying to establish something new, and need a lot of assistance to achieve that.
    Agree. They also don't need a new stadium.

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    • Aprilbr
      Senior Player
      • Oct 2016
      • 1803

      #77
      Originally posted by Bloods05
      Yes. You're missing the fact that Tasmania has a long and rich football tradition, and that it wouldn't take much to revive it. The northern states, by contrast, are trying to establish something new, and need a lot of assistance to achieve that.
      They might have a rich tradition but they're population is only 500,000 and they have a comparatively older population. That helps explain the lack of players from there this century. This coming draft epitomises that lack of young talent in Tassie. Just one Tasmanian, Cowan, is likely to be drafted next week.

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      • Bloods05
        Senior Player
        • Oct 2008
        • 1641

        #78
        Originally posted by Aprilbr
        They might have a rich tradition but they're population is only 500,000 and they have a comparatively older population. That helps explain the lack of players from there this century. This coming draft epitomises that lack of young talent in Tassie. Just one Tasmanian, Cowan, is likely to be drafted next week.
        I don't disagree that things are crook in Tassie. I just don't think an academy is the way to fix it. I think having their own team would revitalise footy there, and do it very quickly.

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        • Nico
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 11328

          #79
          Interesting to see that Tom De Koning at Carlton, who is out of contract after 2023, has decided not to re-sign at this stage. I believe he has a brother at Geelong, which begs the question; has he recently bought a house on the Surf Coast?
          http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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          • Aprilbr
            Senior Player
            • Oct 2016
            • 1803

            #80
            Originally posted by Nico
            Interesting to see that Tom De Koning at Carlton, who is out of contract after 2023, has decided not to re-sign at this stage. I believe he has a brother at Geelong, which begs the question; has he recently bought a house on the Surf Coast?
            An equally pertinent question would be, if he has bought a house there, how big a discount to true market value did he receive? The word from down there is that Geelong players have proven to be phenomenal real estate investors over the past decade and its not just due to a property boom.

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            • Maltopia
              Senior Player
              • Apr 2016
              • 1556

              #81
              Federal Government indicating they don’t want to pay $375 million to fall fund the new Tasmanian stadium

              As Tasmania prepares to make a business case for an AFL licence, the stadium required to make it a reality continues to be political football, with the Commonwealth now indicating it is not happy with the amount being sought.  

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              • Blood Fever
                Veterans List
                • Apr 2007
                • 4040

                #82
                Originally posted by Maltopia
                Federal Government indicating they don’t want to pay $375 million to fall fund the new Tasmanian stadium

                https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-...ions/101785934
                Good decision. Stadium cost not popular in Tasmania where there are more pressing needs. Already have an adequate ground. Typical AFL arrogance.

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                • Ruck'n'Roll
                  Ego alta, ergo ictus
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 3990

                  #83
                  Oops, wrong one
                  Last edited by Ruck'n'Roll; 20 December 2022, 05:45 PM.

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                  • i'm-uninformed2
                    Reefer Madness
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 4653

                    #84
                    19 teams?

                    Originally posted by Maltopia
                    Federal Government indicating they don’t want to pay $375 million to fall fund the new Tasmanian stadium
                    As much as I despise Gil, there’s a small bit of me that wonders if that asterisk of requiring State and Fed funds was put next to the whole Tassie concept to kill it given he deep down knows the whole thing is unfinancial. We’re all attracted to the romance of them having a team, but the economics are diabolical.
                    Last edited by Meg; 21 December 2022, 08:44 PM.
                    'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                    • 707
                      Veterans List
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 6204

                      #85
                      I think a roof is necessary because of the high likelihood of dreadfully cold and windswept weather down there both for games and training.

                      Without that, I reckon non Tasmanian draftees will be heading to the trade door very quickly and games might be of an ordinary standard due to poor weather. I know there is lots of ok weather in Hobart through winter but there's some bitter cold weather as well.

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                      • Blood Fever
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 4040

                        #86
                        Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
                        As much as I despise Gil, there’s a small bit of me that wonders if that asterisk of requiring State and Fed funds was put next to the whole Tassie concept to kill it given he deep down knows the whole thing is unfinancial. We’re all attracted to the romance of them having a team, but the economics are diabolical.
                        Could easily be true.

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                        • Ruck'n'Roll
                          Ego alta, ergo ictus
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 3990

                          #87
                          Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
                          As much as I despise Gil, there’s a small bit of me that wonders if that asterisk of requiring State and Fed funds was put next to the whole Tassie concept to kill it given he deep down knows the whole thing is unfinancial. We’re all attracted to the romance of them having a team, but the economics are diabolical.
                          .
                          The AFL has a long history of seeking to achieve it's desired outcomes, by whatever expedient necessary - It was a constant motif of "The Boys Club" - so you could be correct. In which case should you be applauding it?
                          I am not sure whether the economics are diabolical, I've heard arguments from both sides - but an decision making process that depends on underhand means rather than honest evaluation of the pros and cons is genuinely diabolical.
                          I've never seen an organisation where the seperation of ends and means wasn't a clear marker for endemic and deep seated corruption based inefficiency. The AFL has been an effective monopoly for so long, it's enabled it to thrive despite being an organistational flustercluck.
                          Last edited by Ruck'n'Roll; 27 December 2022, 07:03 AM.

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                          • 707
                            Veterans List
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 6204

                            #88
                            19 teams in a future Gather Round, who doesn't play a game?

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                            • barry
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 8499

                              #89
                              Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
                              As much as I despise Gil, there’s a small bit of me that wonders if that asterisk of requiring State and Fed funds was put next to the whole Tassie concept to kill it given he deep down knows the whole thing is unfinancial. We’re all attracted to the romance of them having a team, but the economics are diabolical.
                              Spot on. It will be a rod for there own back when the backlash comes, but Gill will be long gone by then

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                              • Bloods05
                                Senior Player
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 1641

                                #90
                                Originally posted by 707
                                19 teams in a future Gather Round, who doesn't play a game?
                                GWS.

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