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  • i'm-uninformed2
    Reefer Madness
    • Oct 2003
    • 4653

    #61
    Originally posted by ugg
    What are the criteria for being named AA captain? Best player overall? Best leader? Nicest player? Cleanest tribunal record? Random draw?
    It's totally selective, leaves room for a little romance, and I'm completely fine with it.

    Should Shannon Hurn have beat Buddy for the honour in 2018? Technically, yes. But Bud's a giant of the game, and deserved it.
    'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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    • TheBloods
      Suspended by the MRP
      • Feb 2020
      • 2047

      #62
      Originally posted by Maltopia
      I think the AA squad is very reasonable. Chad is a superstar and will get future selections, but you compare his numbers (21 disposals) to say Brayshaw (28-29 disposals, 6 tackles) or that of Oliver, Miller or Neale and it is a substantial difference for a midfielder. I guess you might argue if he should be picked ahead of Cripps or Rozee, but you would have plenty who would disagree. They even had to stick Petracca as a forward.

      I am very pleased though that Mills and Heeney were recognised!
      Chad is as dangerous as those with less disposals . Shouldnt be about their numbers it should be about what they do with it . No mid in the league is doing what Chad is doing . They snubbed him because of his age , plain and simple . Its rubbish

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      • mcs
        Travelling Swannie!!
        • Jul 2007
        • 8177

        #63
        I very much doubt his age had anything to do with it. I'm sure the intellectual giants like Kane Cornes have some bizarre ways of going about it, but I very much doubt that would be one of them.
        Last edited by mcs; 25 August 2022, 10:17 AM.
        "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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        • i'm-uninformed2
          Reefer Madness
          • Oct 2003
          • 4653

          #64
          Here's my take on the Chad AA thing, and why I'm not that bothered by it.

          Chad was very good in the first half of the year, but it was really in the back third of the season when he truly exploded and joined the elite of the comp. That's when he started hauling in big votes in the coaches award, for example. That's not to criticise him. To become elite after 30 games, when he'd really only played half a season of AFL before this year (given his injury last year) is an extraordinary trajectory.

          If he has a full season next year resembling what he did in the back third of this year, he won't just be winning an AA guernsey. He'll have a B&F and be pressing for some of the game's great individual awards.
          'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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          • Faunac8
            Senior Player
            • Mar 2014
            • 1548

            #65
            Originally posted by TheBloods
            Chad is as dangerous as those with less disposals . Shouldnt be about their numbers it should be about what they do with it . No mid in the league is doing what Chad is doing . They snubbed him because of his age , plain and simple . Its rubbish
            I thought possession numbers were one of your criteria for midfield success?

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            • mcs
              Travelling Swannie!!
              • Jul 2007
              • 8177

              #66
              Originally posted by Faunac8
              I thought possession numbers were one of your criteria for midfield success?
              My advice is below Faunac:



              "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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              • COB
                Pushing for Selection
                • Jan 2021
                • 89

                #67
                Originally posted by TheBloods
                Chad is as dangerous as those with less disposals . Shouldnt be about their numbers it should be about what they do with it . No mid in the league is doing what Chad is doing . They snubbed him because of his age , plain and simple . Its rubbish
                Every midfielder selected in the AA team finished above Warner in the coaches votes (most by 30+ votes) so either the coaches don't know much or the AA selectors got it right.

                Congrats to Mills and Heeney and I was pleased to see Rowbottom get votes in 4 out of the last 5 rounds.

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                • Markwebbos
                  Veterans List
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 7186

                  #68
                  I think 2023 will be an interesting year for THE Chad as he’s going to have to play through a tag most weeks.

                  If he’s left unchecked he will test teams apart.

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                  • TheBloods
                    Suspended by the MRP
                    • Feb 2020
                    • 2047

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Markwebbos
                    I think 2023 will be an interesting year for THE Chad as he’s going to have to play through a tag most weeks.

                    If he’s left unchecked he will test teams apart.
                    He will learn , he already is . He was one of our best over the last month and he was being tagged . They cant stop him .

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                    Originally posted by Faunac8
                    I thought possession numbers were one of your criteria for midfield success?
                    Possession numbers dont mean anything for a player as good as talented as Chad .you dont judge him by how much he gets it , judge him by what he does with it

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                    • jono2707
                      Goes up to 11
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 3326

                      #70
                      Originally posted by TheBloods
                      Chad is as dangerous as those with less disposals . Shouldnt be about their numbers it should be about what they do with it . No mid in the league is doing what Chad is doing . They snubbed him because of his age , plain and simple . Its rubbish
                      Geez give up - how about we celebrate the naming of Issac and Callum in the team, and the fact that Chad and Paps were nominated. Great achievements for all 4, and all players named to the final AA team were absolutely deserving.

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                      • Goal Sneak
                        Out of Bounds on the Full
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 653

                        #71
                        Originally posted by jono2707
                        Geez give up - how about we celebrate the naming of Issac and Callum in the team, and the fact that Chad and Paps were nominated. Great achievements for all 4, and all players named to the final AA team were absolutely deserving.
                        No need to give up TB, but maybe ease up a little. We're all well and truly onboard with how great Chad is and can be.

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                        • AB Swannie
                          Senior Player
                          • Mar 2017
                          • 1579

                          #72
                          Originally posted by TheBloods
                          Wrong , there are a lot of good players in the league . Fantastic to have 4 in the squad but Chad is the only one who should make the final team .
                          It's great that you champion The Chad. We all love him. It is a shame, though, that you didn't think that Mills and Heeney should've made it and don't see their value. We are lucky to have such a well balanced side.

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                          • 0918330512
                            Senior Player
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 1654

                            #73
                            Originally posted by jono2707
                            Geez give up - how about we celebrate the naming of Issac and Callum in the team, and the fact that Chad and Paps were nominated. Great achievements for all 4, and all players named to the final AA team were absolutely deserving.
                            After so many posts identifying The Chad as the second coming, I’m now convinced that it wasn’t even Kinnear Beatson who identified Warner’s talent - clearly others knew about it probably at his conception. So you’d have a better chance of convincing a flat earther that the earth is round. Once he’s named AA, Brownlow medalist, Australian of the year and the Prime Minister not everything will be about Chad.

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                            • TheBloods
                              Suspended by the MRP
                              • Feb 2020
                              • 2047

                              #74
                              Originally posted by AB Swannie
                              It's great that you champion The Chad. We all love him. It is a shame, though, that you didn't think that Mills and Heeney should've made it and don't see their value. We are lucky to have such a well balanced side.
                              Thats ridiculous , i have never said they dont have value . Heeney is a fantastic talent but goes missing too much and Mills is the best two way mid in the comp but his 2nd half of the yr wasnt as good as the first , he gave more opportunities to Chad . I am pleased for them as they are hard working LOCAL players ,it is unfair to say i dont see their value so take that back please .

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                              • AB Swannie
                                Senior Player
                                • Mar 2017
                                • 1579

                                #75
                                Originally posted by TheBloods
                                Thats ridiculous , i have never said they dont have value . Heeney is a fantastic talent but goes missing too much and Mills is the best two way mid in the comp but his 2nd half of the yr wasnt as good as the first , he gave more opportunities to Chad . I am pleased for them as they are hard working LOCAL players ,it is unfair to say i dont see their value so take that back please .
                                I quoted you saying that Chad was the only deserving swan to make the AA team. Henceforth, you didn’t rate Mills and Heeney as worthy of making it and so valued other AA squad members more highly.

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