Qualifying Final vs Melbourne, at MCG on Friday 2 September, 7.50pm AEST

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  • RogueSwan
    McVeigh for Brownlow
    • Apr 2003
    • 4602

    #61
    Originally posted by SwanSand
    ... Can we avoid their defenders and can we move the ball under defensive pressure without bombing ? If we can, we will win.
    This is sooo important. We did this against the Aints in the last qtr and our scoring dried up. The lions did it against the Dees and look how that fared
    "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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    • TheBloods
      Suspended by the MRP
      • Feb 2020
      • 2047

      #62
      Ha ha , bombing , interesting

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      • Mark26
        Senior Player
        • Jan 2017
        • 1535

        #63
        Originally posted by TheBloods
        Ha ha , bombing , interesting
        No no, a deliberately ambiguous statement which could be provocative, not so interesting

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        • jono2707
          Goes up to 11
          • Oct 2007
          • 3326

          #64
          Will to do a job on May perhaps?

          The Demons defence works so well when they force teams to bomb it in long and when May has the freedom to clean up said long bombs. Maybe Will will be given the job to keep May occupied.

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          • TheBloods
            Suspended by the MRP
            • Feb 2020
            • 2047

            #65
            Originally posted by Mark26
            No no, a deliberately ambiguous statement which could be provocative, not so interesting
            Hows it provocative ? It is interesting to me . Who do you think bombs it ? We are a team of great kicks i thought

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            • royboy42
              Senior Player
              • Apr 2006
              • 2078

              #66
              Originally posted by TheBloods
              Hows it provocative ? It is interesting to me . Who do you think bombs it ? We are a team of great kicks i thought
              Enough!

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              • TheBloods
                Suspended by the MRP
                • Feb 2020
                • 2047

                #67
                Originally posted by royboy42
                Enough!
                What are you on about . I am confused. Are we a good kicking team or not ? I thought we were but then come in here and everyone thinks we will do nothing but bomb it . I am a nervous supporter but cmon , a bit of faith wouldnt hurt !

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                • Molly dooker
                  Lifer!
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 247

                  #68
                  Originally posted by TheBloods
                  Hows it provocative ? It is interesting to me . Who do you think bombs it ? We are a team of great kicks i thought
                  Clarke? Yeah nahhhhhh.

                  Running, shut down player only. Sorry but he's not a footballer. Cannot dispose of the footy by hand or foot. Goals are by sheer luck.

                  He will always take that micro moment for the other player to take the ball and not get in first. Bloody frustrating.

                  He may be able to run with Langdon and negate his influence, that's important but if he could kick and handball effectively........ now I'm dreaming. He's the only weakness.

                  Gooooooo Swans

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                  • KTigers
                    Senior Player
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 2499

                    #69
                    Originally posted by MattW
                    I don't see any risk in Logan losing his spot. Since coming last three games he's played well, averaging 10 disposals, 1.25 goals, over 5 score involvements. He's also gotten up the ground nicely. I think his output is clearly superior to his competitors for that position.
                    For sure, he is going fine. There are a few other good players in our forward line. He is only going to get so much of the ball with Bud,
                    Heeney and Papley all screaming for it. Besides, McDonald is 12 years old or something. His numbers are pretty decent all things
                    considered and you can't doubt his effort when he doesn't have the ball.

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                    • TheBloods
                      Suspended by the MRP
                      • Feb 2020
                      • 2047

                      #70
                      Mcdonald stays in

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                      • Mark26
                        Senior Player
                        • Jan 2017
                        • 1535

                        #71
                        Originally posted by TheBloods
                        Hows it provocative ? It is interesting to me . Who do you think bombs it ? We are a team of great kicks i thought
                        Forgive me for saying so, but given your track record, I thought you were having a go at a particular player.

                        It seems you were implying that we are a team of great kicks. I'm mistaken and will humbly retract. I'm stoked that I'm wrong.

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                        • Goal Sneak
                          Out of Bounds on the Full
                          • Jun 2006
                          • 653

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Molly dooker
                          Clarke? Yeah nahhhhhh.

                          Running, shut down player only. Sorry but he's not a footballer. Cannot dispose of the footy by hand or foot. Goals are by sheer luck.

                          He will always take that micro moment for the other player to take the ball and not get in first. Bloody frustrating.

                          He may be able to run with Langdon and negate his influence, that's important but if he could kick and handball effectively........ now I'm dreaming. He's the only weakness.

                          Gooooooo Swans
                          While Clarke is probably our least effective user of the ball, to say all his goals are sheer luck is very harsh. He's not in the team to set up or score goals. Any he does provide should be considered a bonus.

                          He set up Logan with a shot on goal last week with a beautiful forward entry kick, was I dreaming? He is not a weakness, he has been solid in his role and while he has made errors with his disposal, he's not alone.

                          I think you're expecting too much, they can't all be as silky as Blakey + Errol

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                          • barracuda
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Jun 2016
                            • 551

                            #73
                            Goal Sneak, I agree with Molly dooker. Clarke is a bruise free player. To his credit he has absolutely maximized what he has and has a solid role in the team. Ronke, Wicks and Campbell all have way more upside, but none have been able to really harness their talents like Clarke. Ronke is a wonderful crumbing forward with an electric ability to sneak goals. Wicks when he is fully in form can do everything clarke does but also has an ability to be electric and is a hard competitor, Campbell is just elite, silky smooth and always has time. I imagine if any of those three could sort themselves out they would be in the team above clarke any day. But again, full credit to clarke. He has earnt his spot. I do worry though in the tough physical environment of finals whether he can stand up. We saw Sinclair run off him pretty easily last week. Opposition teams will now have studied his tagging approach and will be adjusting.

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                            • TheBloods
                              Suspended by the MRP
                              • Feb 2020
                              • 2047

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Mark26
                              Forgive me for saying so, but given your track record, I thought you were having a go at a particular player.

                              It seems you were implying that we are a team of great kicks. I'm mistaken and will humbly retract. I'm stoked that I'm wrong.
                              Thanks

                              Are we not a team of great kicks ? We cant have it both ways , Errol , Chad , Blakey, Jmac , Florent, Paddy , Mills, Buddy , Heeney everyone loves their kicking . If we are that good then bombing it to May should be the least of our worries . Getting it in their hands is the problem , how do we do that . Paddy and Blakey getting less of it recently , Chad getting tagged more , Jmac out of form , Florent not getting much of it in the back pocket . These are the ones we need getting the ball in a final and i reckon most of them need to increase their involvement a bit to do that .

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                              • Goal Sneak
                                Out of Bounds on the Full
                                • Jun 2006
                                • 653

                                #75
                                Originally posted by barracuda
                                Goal Sneak, I agree with Molly dooker. Clarke is a bruise free player. To his credit he has absolutely maximized what he has and has a solid role in the team. Ronke, Wicks and Campbell all have way more upside, but none have been able to really harness their talents like Clarke. Ronke is a wonderful crumbing forward with an electric ability to sneak goals. Wicks when he is fully in form can do everything clarke does but also has an ability to be electric and is a hard competitor, Campbell is just elite, silky smooth and always has time. I imagine if any of those three could sort themselves out they would be in the team above clarke any day. But again, full credit to clarke. He has earnt his spot. I do worry though in the tough physical environment of finals whether he can stand up. We saw Sinclair run off him pretty easily last week. Opposition teams will now have studied his tagging approach and will be adjusting.
                                Clarke gets a tough job every week and he's been very successful. The coaches see and know more than us and they believe he is the best man suited for the task, regardless of how talented players like Campbell are. I see no reason to degrade his performance by stating he cannot kick or handball and that all his goals are sheer luck. It's not true and uncalled for when that's not the reason he's in the team. I'd be more than happy for another player to prove they're more capable but until then, give him the credit he deserves.

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