Qualifying Final vs Melbourne, at MCG on Friday 2 September, 7.50pm AEST

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  • MattW
    Veterans List
    • May 2011
    • 4232

    Originally posted by Meg
    You frequently refer to Swans’ players as ‘duds’. Please don’t, it’s a pejorative term. No Swans’ player is deserving of that.
    Completely agree.

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    • Hotpotato
      Senior Player
      • Jun 2014
      • 2285

      Originally posted by MattW
      Completely agree.
      I wholeheartedly agree as well.
      How would like to hear that behind your back people were referring to you in this way.

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      • TheBloods
        Suspended by the MRP
        • Feb 2020
        • 2047

        Originally posted by Hotpotato
        I wholeheartedly agree as well.
        How would like to hear that behind your back people were referring to you in this way.
        Is dud that bad ? I was called worse and have heard coaches call players a lot worse . Does it not just mean a player is no good , and how is saying they are no good any different from saying they should be delisted , or dropped , or traded ? Im not calling them names or picking on them , its just about the footy . Someone just yesterday commented that Matty roberts is bad and no one said a word ! Bad ! A 19 year old !

        But i apologise to anyone i offended , i didnt mean any thing bad by it, that is just what i have been saying for years, I am trying

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        • Goal Sneak
          Out of Bounds on the Full
          • Jun 2006
          • 653

          Originally posted by TheBloods
          Is dud that bad ? I was called worse and have heard coaches call players a lot worse . Does it not just mean a player is no good , and how is saying they are no good any different from saying they should be delisted , or dropped , or traded ? Im not calling them names or picking on them , its just about the footy . Someone just yesterday commented that Matty roberts is bad and no one said a word ! Bad ! A 19 year old !

          But i apologise to anyone i offended , i didnt mean any thing bad by it, that is just what i have been saying for years, I am trying
          I agree that "dud" is relatively tame on the scale of insults. The poster you mentioned said Matty Roberts played bad (in that specific game) which is different to labelling someone a dud which infers there is no hope for them. I'm pretty sure the poster was trying to get a rise out of you and it worked.

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          • mcs
            Travelling Swannie!!
            • Jul 2007
            • 8177

            There is a clear difference between comments that reflect views about performance of an individual in any given game(s), and broader generalisations that often come with (even if unintended) perceived quite negative connotations about an individual and/or their character.

            Using an example of the former to try and justify what some clearly see as the latter doesn't really stack up.

            And that is before the juxtaposition of an objection to comments about one young player alongside a demonstrated willingness to rip into other young players time and time again (one in particular), with many comments made having zero to do with performance. Can't really have it both ways.

            I don't think it is too hard to show a reasonable level of respect, even if a player isn't ultimately good enough in terms of their performance on the park. And that is all that is really being asked for.
            Last edited by mcs; 29 August 2022, 01:58 AM.
            "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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            • Roadrunner
              Senior Player
              • Jan 2018
              • 1481

              Originally posted by mcs
              There is a clear difference between comments that reflect views about performance of an individual in any given game(s), and broader generalisations that often come with (even if unintended) perceived quite negative connotations about an individual and/or their character.

              Using an example of the former to try and justify what some clearly see as the latter doesn't really stack up.

              And that is before the juxtaposition of an objection to comments about one young player alongside a demonstrated willingness to rip into other young players time and time again (one in particular), with many comments made having zero to do with performance. Can't really have it both ways.

              I don't think it is too hard to show a reasonable level of respect, even if a player isn't ultimately good enough in terms of their performance on the park. And that is all that is really being asked for.
              Totally agree mcs. I’m sure TB doesn’t mean to be insulting to any player as he explained, but a certain level of respect should be shown to all players who pull on a Swan jumper. We have a few players regularly mentioned here who, in our opinion, have limited ability yet are capable of doing a specific job and hence get selected from time to time. All players have a bad game now and then and that is the proper criticism we can justly level at them and not resort to “labels” which can be derogatory and hurtful.

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              • TheBloods
                Suspended by the MRP
                • Feb 2020
                • 2047

                That dill Barett and his thug mate Matthew Lloyd said Chad will be the one to watch in this game . Said Blakey and Papley were guns . Does Errol exist to these blokes !

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                • RogueSwan
                  McVeigh for Brownlow
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 4602

                  Originally posted by TheBloods
                  That dill Barett and his thug mate Matthew Lloyd said Chad will be the one to watch in this game . Said Blakey and Papley were guns . Does Errol exist to these blokes !
                  Maybe not, but I'm sure he does to Goodwin.
                  "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                  • i'm-uninformed2
                    Reefer Madness
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 4653

                    I've got no problems with Gus having a run of games in reserves until now.

                    One: it's hard to change a team that's gone seven on the trot. Clarke's position is the one most likely up for grabs, but he'd done the role very well until the Saints game.

                    Two: if he does come in, you want him truly match hardened and fit. We saw last year when we brought Chad in after a long and extended break for the final, he wasn't quite there. That's not to knock him, it's just a fact of being a young footballer. They need to build their resilience, and Gus missed a good chunk of footy this year.

                    Three: now that's he's had an extended run in reserves, he's more likely going to be cherry ripe if he does get picked. I reckon he's a great candidate for the sub role. And whether he's first 22 or sub, I've got no doubt he'll succeed. He's going to be a total beauty of a footballer.
                    'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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                    • Ludwig
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9359

                      Originally posted by TheBloods
                      That dill Barett and his thug mate Matthew Lloyd said Chad will be the one to watch in this game . Said Blakey and Papley were guns . Does Errol exist to these blokes !
                      And what about Mills and Heeney? Why can't the AFL allocate more time to discuss Sydney so the commentators can name every player on the Swans team?

                      And do we really have to use derogatory terms like 'dill' and 'thug' to describe journalists? Especially Barrett, who has been having a love affair with The Chad. (Is a triangle emerging)? I thought those adjectives were reserved for Gill McLachlan and Toby Greene.

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                      • Captain
                        Captain of the Side
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 3602

                        Originally posted by Ludwig
                        And what about Mills and Heeney? Why can't the AFL allocate more time to discuss Sydney so the commentators can name every player on the Swans team?

                        And do we really have to use derogatory terms like 'dill' and 'thug' to describe journalists? Especially Barrett, who has been having a love affair with The Chad. (Is a triangle emerging)? I thought those adjectives were reserved for Gill McLachlan and Toby Greene.
                        Yep. I don't understand why it's so fashionable on here to slag pretty much all of the Melbourne media.

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                        • KTigers
                          Senior Player
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 2499

                          Originally posted by Captain
                          Yep. I don't understand why it's so fashionable on here to slag pretty much all of the Melbourne media.
                          I think it's because relatively speaking there is no Sydney media, they are all we've got.

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                          • crackedactor 01
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Jun 2020
                            • 760

                            No Sydney Media and no NSW umpires. Notice in the VFL the free kick count was 13 to 2 in Melbourne's favor at one stage. I can almost guarantee it will be the similar ratio in Friday's night game when the Victorian umpires have their say.! Gil M at work again.

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                            • TheBloods
                              Suspended by the MRP
                              • Feb 2020
                              • 2047

                              I cant win then

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                              • RogueSwan
                                McVeigh for Brownlow
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 4602

                                Originally posted by Ludwig
                                ... And do we really have to use derogatory terms like 'dill' and 'thug' to describe journalists? ...
                                Do we really have to use the term journalist to describe Matthew Lloyd?
                                "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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