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  • Ludwig
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2007
    • 9359

    #16
    I see the Franklins bought a mansion on the Gold Coast for the entirety of his 9 year contract, and are selling their apartment in Sydney. I guess Buddy has checked out for the 2023 season.

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    • Auntie.Gerald
      Veterans List
      • Oct 2009
      • 6483

      #17
      i heard Bud has joined Burleigh Heads SLSC and will train there once a week (beach sprinting) and commute to Sydney for a little dash around Lakeside on the Thursday prior to game day lol ????

      Bud would like to compete in the over 35s beach sprinting relay world champs............
      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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      • Meg
        Go Swannies!
        Site Admin
        • Aug 2011
        • 4828

        #18
        Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
        i heard Bud has joined Burleigh Heads SLSC and will train there once a week (beach sprinting) .......
        Re-forming the Buddy - Tippett combination?

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        • bloodspirit
          Clubman
          • Apr 2015
          • 4448

          #19
          2023 Preseason

          Today was the younger players first day back on the track! That of course means - TIME TRIAL! Such an exciting day, with the draft still to come.

          There were a smattering of senior players who joined in for training but they didn't do the time trial. (Mills, Fox, Papley, Clarke, Hickey, Ladhams, Amartey). Melican and Hayward showed up but didn't train at all and were dressed in civvies.
          All the coaching staff and Tom Harley and Charlie Gardiner put in appearances. I wonder if any of them will fly to Melbourne for the draft?

          The time trial featured strong performances by the usual suspects. Dyl Stephens finished first, followed by Errol Gulden and an impressive Corey Warner came in third. I think next was Lachie Rankin, then James Rowbottom and a bit further back was Chad. Chad was looking leaner than he did in his very first pre-season I thought. Lachie McAndrew came last by far but he was pretty pleased because he ran a PB!

          Justin McInerney did train but didn't time trial because he had a recent bout of illness. The most underwhelming performance was Matty Roberts. He was a lot slower than the others (only McAndrew was slower) and looked gassed. I don't know if there are some mitigating factors or if he's just come back a bit out of shape. Campbell was also disappointed in his performance.

          Aaron Francis (aka Frang or Frank) had his first day of training. He seemed happy enough to be at the club. He said he didn't have any existing mates at the club but knew Cal Mills from the Academy and some of the other SA boys (because he's also from SA).

          Tom Hickey didn't do the time trial but did run well I thought.

          In terms of what else they did, it was just the usual sort of stuff: a little bit of running and kicking. Some slightly game play type scenarios (interesting to see that from day 1 of pre-season). They were my take-aways.
          Last edited by Meg; 28 November 2022, 12:40 PM. Reason: All the paragraphs disappeared! Re-inserted para breaks.
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          • Mark26
            Senior Player
            • Jan 2017
            • 1535

            #20
            Originally posted by bloodspirit
            Today was the younger players first day back on the track! That of course means - TIME TRIAL! Such an exciting day, with the draft still to come. There were a smattering of senior players who joined in for training but they didn't do the time trial. (Mills, Fox, Papley, Clarke, Hickey, Ladhams, Amartey). Melican and Hayward showed up but didn't train at all and were dressed in civvies. All the coaching staff and Tom Harley and Charlie Gardiner put in appearances. I wonder if any of them will fly to Melbourne for the draft? The time trial featured strong performances by the usual suspects. Dyl Stephens finished first, followed by Errol Gulden and an impressive Corey Warner came in third. I think next was Lachie Rankin, then James Rowbottom and a bit further back was Chad. Chad was looking leaner than he did in his very first pre-season I thought. Lachie McAndrew came last by far but he was pretty pleased because he ran a PB! Justin McInerney did train but didn't time trial because he had a recent bout of illness. The most underwhelming performance was Matty Roberts. He was a lot slower than the others (only McAndrew was slower) and looked gassed. I don't know if there are some mitigating factors or if he's just come back a bit out of shape. Campbell was also disappointed in his performance. Aaron Francis (aka Frang or Frank) had his first day of training. He seemed happy enough to be at the club. He said he didn't have any existing mates at the club but knew Cal Mills from the Academy and some of the other SA boys (because he's also from SA). Tom Hickey didn't do the time trial but did run well I thought. In terms of what else they did, it was just the usual sort of stuff: a little bit of running and kicking. Some slightly game play type scenarios (interesting to see that from day 1 of pre-season). They were my take-aways.
            Thanks for the report bloodspirit. Shame about Campbell and Roberts, but it's early days.

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            • bloodspirit
              Clubman
              • Apr 2015
              • 4448

              #21
              Thanks Meg!
              All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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              • 707
                Veterans List
                • Aug 2009
                • 6204

                #22
                Thanks for the report bloodspirit, much appreciated.

                Corey Warner third is nice, endurance to go with his speed. Winger of the future
                Last edited by 707; 28 November 2022, 05:10 PM.

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                • rickmat
                  Regular in the Side
                  • Mar 2018
                  • 500

                  #23
                  New VFL coaches there?

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                  • bloodspirit
                    Clubman
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 4448

                    #24
                    Originally posted by rickmat
                    New VFL coaches there?
                    Probably, but I wouldn't recognise Truslove and I don't know who else there is.
                    All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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                    • Ruck'n'Roll
                      Ego alta, ergo ictus
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 3990

                      #25
                      Rather than expanding the interchange bench to 5, or ditching the medi-sub completely, the AFL have simply removed the "medi" prefix. The sub can come on once per game, and the player subbed off may not return to that game.

                      A 5 man interchange would have helped more big guys get a game. I think this version probably won't help them so much, but it may be good news for any ageing superstars who might not be quite up to running out a full game every week anymore, but could make a worthwhile contribution for half a game (especially after a little of the games intensity has died down) - and remain a viable drawcard/marketing behemoth.

                      Gosh, if only the Swans had a player that fitted that description.

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                      • Ludwig
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9359

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
                        Rather than expanding the interchange bench to 5, or ditching the medi-sub completely, the AFL have simply removed the "medi" prefix. The sub can come on once per game, and the player subbed off may not return to that game.

                        A 5 man interchange would have helped more big guys get a game. I think this version probably won't help them so much, but it may be good news for any ageing superstars who might not be quite up to running out a full game every week anymore, but could make a worthwhile contribution for half a game (especially after a little of the games intensity has died down) - and remain a viable drawcard/marketing behemoth.

                        Gosh, if only the Swans had a player that fitted that description.
                        It just might be called "The Buddy Rule" after next season.

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                        • 707
                          Veterans List
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 6204

                          #27
                          One week in and Aaron Francis notes that we train 'hard'.

                          A bloke who realises this is his last chance. I was initially aghast we would chase him but have warmed to the fact it may prove to be a cunning recruitment.

                          Any Sydneysiders getting to training so we get an unbiased report on the houses being trained down?

                          On a seperate note, was fantastic to see a pair of Holden on-two's in the last two appearances of the famous Holden badge at the V8's. How appropriate Holden's last win was by a young guy with the name Broc!

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                          • bloodspirit
                            Clubman
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 4448

                            #28
                            I made it to training today and come bearing a training report and ready to tell my unvarnished perceptions.

                            So, today was the full team's first day back on the track. Pretty much everyone was there. The only omissions I noted were Lance Franklin and Nick Blakey.

                            They started off with warm up exercises before moving on to the main event.

                            *****

                            First day back means - TIME TRIAL! For the juniors who were there last week, they had to do it again. In my opinion it's always a bit of a marquee event as far as pre-season training goes, and I'm always keen to see the results.

                            The first 10 finishers, in order, were:

                            Stephens
                            Fox
                            Clarke
                            Gulden
                            Rampe (came home with a wet sail as he usually does)
                            Tom McCartin
                            Harry C
                            Mills
                            Corey
                            Florent.

                            The next finisher was the quickest of our new draftees - Caleb Mitchell - in a very respectable performance.

                            I was interested and slightly surprised to notice that the fastest time was over 6:15 for 2 km, which is slower than the fast draftees go at the combine and slower than I reckon Dyl would have run back when he did the combine. I rationalise it this way: since running was always his strength (and still is) Dyl (and probably other elite running draftees) focus on building up their strength, and they stack on some weight, and so it is harder to maintain their elite running times. Is one of you well placed to comment?

                            The last finisher was new, young project ruckman Cam Owen. I think his time was roughly 7:45, and he was lapped by some of the field.

                            Some other observations:

                            * Lloyd was middle of the pack - I thought he was a better run than that

                            * Wicks was one of the slower smalls (not a good sign for him given the new competition that has arrived at the club) - I didn't notice where Konstanty finished (actually I really struggled for a long while to identify Konstanty. He, along with HHK who has shaven away his long hair, and the VFL recruits, were the hardest players to recognise) but I'm pretty sure it was in front of Wicks.

                            * Gould did really well, was keeping pace with the likes of Hayward

                            * McAndrew was by a small margin the fastest of the group including himself, Amartey, Edwards, and, further back, Owen. They were the back markers for the event.

                            * After last week reporting that Roberts struck me as slow, this week I noticed that he was slow again BUT very interestingly he ran with Parker on his shoulder the whole race and finished a nose in front of Parker. Parker clearly has the tank, so maybe Matty does too? Perhaps even the time trial is more about speed than endurance (albeit speed over a longer distance). Not quite sure how to interpret this but I think it makes me hesitate to be too hard on Matty for his time trial.

                            * Braeden was somewhere in the middle (again, well in front of Wicks). Lest my report from last week be taken as saying Braeden is slow, that is not what I said last week. What I said was that last week Braeden expressed disappointment in his own running performance (and he was a fair way behind the guys at the front). Last week I wasn't sure whether Braeden had run in the first or second group of runners (separated by about 15 seconds) and I was thinking that if he had been in the second group he had done really well and made up time on some of the guys in the first group. So, I asked Braeden how was his time trial and he said something like "horrific" and so I inferred that he must have been in the first group and been a fair bit slower than the others in his group. I'm just spelling this out because with the Chinese whispers effect I think my report may have led to him being branded as out of shape - which may or may not be the case - but is not what I said or what necessarily follows from what I saw. [At least, I hope that's what I said, I haven't gone back to check.]

                            * Sam Reid, HHK and Lachie Rankin all did not do the time trial because they are returning from injuries. I'm also not sure if Hickey and Ladhams ran - although they were around and they looked sweaty afterwards.

                            ****

                            After the time trial, they got on with the rest of training. And it struck me as a tough session. So much so that I asked if it was tougher than usual and I learned that it is normal that Mondays are the toughest day of training.

                            They kept training for well over 2 hours in total, in warm conditions. And despite the time trial up front (which no doubt left them gassed) they didn't get many breaks at all during that time and the senior players finished with 200 m sprints! Most of the training was kicking drills

                            One player who I think deserves recognition for his hard work was Tom McCartin. He was by far the strongest runner of all the tall players. Gould also did well, and Melican and McLean did ok too.

                            I feel harsh reporting this but overall I thought the most disappointing performance (on the day overall, not so much the time trial specifically) was Aaron Francis'. He looked distinctly less fit that anyone who was on our list last season. Essendon's review said they were not fit enough - turns out maybe they're right. I think 'Frank' will either get fitter or get delisted when his contract expires. Assuming he gets fitter which I think is likely, hopefully it really helps him make that transition into being a better, and more consistent, player. I'm thinking he may not be pushing for a spot round 1 at this stage.

                            Other stuff

                            The new draftees

                            I found Konstanty the hardest to spot. He was wearing a cap and he looks a bit like one of the VFL players. Plus he spent most of his time training on the far side of the ground so I didn't see much of him. I heard he's moved in with Logan and HHK.

                            Vickery in some ways is not so distinctive but there's something about his posture that stands out to me. He seemed to be hanging with some of the other defenders e.g. Harry C, Tommy Mc, maybe Fox or Lloyd. He looks like a humble kid. I've got high hopes for him. I love that we made the somewhat surprising choice to draft a small, lockdown defender with a relatively high pick.

                            Caleb Mitchell - looked reasonably solid and, as I've already mentioned, seemed fit and ran strongly. He's tallish and was not wearing a cap which made him easier to spot.

                            Cam Owen - the gangliest guy (possibly after McAndrew) on the ground. A long term prospect.

                            Jaiden Magor - easy to spot with his very distinctive haircut. Tom Papley looked to be taking him under his wing. Interesting to see Papley spending time with Magor rather than Konstanty which is what the media was hyping. Although I'm sure this was just one sample and I daresay Tommy will give time to both of them.

                            Will Edwards - also fairly easy to spot because he's tall and blonde. Can't report much about him except in terms of his time trial performance where he was on a par with Amartey.


                            VFL

                            I identified the 4th VFL guy as Hamish Morrison from the Academy. Hamish Morrison Draft Profile - Aussie Rules Rookie Me Central (formerly AFL Draft Central) I already reported the other three last week: Indhi Kirk, Christian Webster, and Toby Alker.


                            I will conclude by giving a shout out to fellow fan Angela who was there with her dogs and who is a sometime lurker but never-yet poster on these boards. Hello Angela - hope you will join the conversation!
                            All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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                            • Mark26
                              Senior Player
                              • Jan 2017
                              • 1535

                              #29
                              Awesome update Bloodspirit. These reports are gold for those of us who live outside of Sydney.

                              I thought your comment on Ladhams and Hickey quite funny and imagined them hiding out of sight, spraying themselves with water bottles and materialising panting when everyone had finished.

                              Thanks again.

                              Let's hope Francis takes off in our culture.

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                              • Auntie.Gerald
                                Veterans List
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 6483

                                #30
                                I watched Flynn and Jezza from GWS run 12 mins for 3km at the GWS Academy at 17/18yrs of age

                                I watched Jezza say to Mark McVeigh say "anyone else want to ruck this guy" when at the Academy.......Hezza gave up against a muscle bound yound 17yr old ruck 194cm tall
                                "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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