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  • liz
    Veteran
    Site Admin
    • Jan 2003
    • 16733

    Originally posted by caj23
    Not sure Jordan is much of an upgrade on Roberts, has a few more preseasons under his belt and more exposed form, but wouldn’t think he’s much of an upgrade
    I look at Jordon as a downgrade on Clarke. We might just as well stick with what we have.

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    • rojo
      Opti-pessi-misti
      • Mar 2009
      • 1099

      I don't like the look of Melican on the North Melbourne list of possibilities. If we don't get Ben McKay I hope he stays with us.

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      • BRS328
        Warming the Bench
        • Feb 2018
        • 343

        I stand to be corrected, but I believe Melican has been offered a contract extension and has signed already

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        • liz
          Veteran
          Site Admin
          • Jan 2003
          • 16733

          Originally posted by BRS328
          I stand to be corrected, but I believe Melican has been offered a contract extension and has signed already
          Various media outlets have reported that he has re-signed, but the Swans' media department is not one of them.

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          • cruiser
            What the frack!
            • Jul 2004
            • 6114

            Originally posted by BRS328
            I stand to be corrected, but I believe Melican has been offered a contract extension and has signed already
            I thought so.
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            • troyjones2525
              Swans Fanatic!
              • Mar 2008
              • 2908

              While he is a good player, us being linked as interested in Tom Doedee is a little concerning to me. We have been burned by players in the past who have had ACL issues and with Tom still to comeback from his latest ACL injury (that's both knees now), it smacks of desperation that we aren't confident we'll land McKay... [emoji22]

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              • Auntie.Gerald
                Veterans List
                • Oct 2009
                • 6474

                I love our varied thoughts and considerations regarding our squad

                If we had put a contract in front of Stephen’s and he saids no and we loose a 40 game 23yr old mid in 2024……..does that mean it is very likely we need to replace Dylan with an experienced mid?

                I’m guessing from what I have seen of Dylan he really is only an outside wing.

                Obviously not a super high contract in $

                Maybe $350k max $400k pa?

                …..

                Regarding Clarke there must be a player that we can attract to Sydney on a similar $ but has more time with the ball and more flexibility in roles?

                Clarke can tag.
                Predominately tagging a dangerous HFF or FP.
                That is a strong skill set but very limited.

                It seems to me that is now an opportunity cost vs a player on similar $ (maybe $300k pa?) that could truly help win contested footy ie we went hunting for a good value contested player in Kennedy. He turned out one in a million. But I’m sure across the whole of the AFL there must be a handful of candidates that help our deficiencies around winning the contest?
                "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                • 111431
                  Regular in the Side
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 697

                  Would Ollie Wines be the answer? Hard inside bull and proven performer. Struggling a bit at Port because of their young and high quality midfield. Port have a lousy draft Hans yet seem to want to trade with the world

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                  • Markwebbos
                    Veterans List
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 7186

                    Originally posted by 111431
                    Would Ollie Wines be the answer? Hard inside bull and proven performer. Struggling a bit at Port because of their young and high quality midfield. Port have a lousy draft Hans yet seem to want to trade with the world
                    That’s a great suggestion. My only concern would be this age, 30 next year.

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                    • Roadrunner
                      Senior Player
                      • Jan 2018
                      • 1445

                      Originally posted by liz
                      I look at Jordon as a downgrade on Clarke. We might just as well stick with what we have.
                      Sorry Liz- don’t know anything about Jordon, but you can’t have much of a downgrade on Clarke!. I don’t like to knock any Swan but I wouldn’t have him anywhere near our team if we’re serious. Sorry Ryan, please don’t take offence but football is a tough business not just a sport so please move on for your own benefit. Same goes for Sam Wicks- these two can’t help us win a flag. That brings me to Wilbur: he obviously was Horse’s pet when he started with us but hey, time has now flown by so Wilbur, get serious and play consistent good footy and kick accurately or else. The ability is there as he has shown a few times this year but then goes missing too often. Is it a matter of fitness? If so, train your backside off- no excuses!

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                      • dejavoodoo44
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 8491

                        Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                        I love our varied thoughts and considerations regarding our squad

                        If we had put a contract in front of Stephen’s and he saids no and we loose a 40 game 23yr old mid in 2024……..does that mean it is very likely we need to replace Dylan with an experienced mid?

                        I’m guessing from what I have seen of Dylan he really is only an outside wing.

                        Obviously not a super high contract in $

                        Maybe $350k max $400k pa?
                        Don't think there's any real need to replace Stephens, as we have outside midfield depth. Seeing Campbell spend more time on the wing appeals to me. While for other up and comers; we have Corey Warner, who I thought progressed nicely this season; Mitchell, who has a big tank and goes hard at the ball; and Hall-Kahan, who while he spent plenty of time as a forward this season, has used the ball well when playing on the wing.

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                        • BRS328
                          Warming the Bench
                          • Feb 2018
                          • 343

                          Auntie,
                          I agree with you. Clarke is not the long term future and in my opinion the classic list clogger. There are players out there who would be worth considering.
                          The club are going to have to clear some space on the list to make room for new arrivals, and by my estimation they will need to free up 8 spots. Bear in mind 2 spots have already been filled by Buller and Arnold offset by the departure of Franklin Hicky and Paddy McCartin and almost certainly Stephens. We will have to find 4 more, so the most likely are Clarke, Gould, Owen, and either Hall-Khan or Rankin.
                          This would enable the club to bring in 3 free agents/trades and 3 draft picks including Geary

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                          • Roadrunner
                            Senior Player
                            • Jan 2018
                            • 1445

                            Originally posted by Markwebbos
                            That’s a great suggestion. My only concern would be this age, 30 next year.
                            No-simply no. Let’s look critically at our midfielders: what’s obvious to me is that the major ingredient missing is speed. We have only two with genuine speed: Errol and Paps. Now you can be very effective even without elite speed like Mills and to a lesser degree Rowy, and of course years back we had Diesel who was far from quick as far as leg speed was concerned but lightning fast in his thinking and decision making. Of course, he was a unique talent. My point is that we need players that ideally have leg speed and are quick thinkers. A strong bodied midfielder is great but we have Millsey and Parks already. We need to unearth someone like Oliver- great at getting the ball and then great at doing something constructive with it. I don’t see the point of trading in anyone near the end of their career- if we can’t get an elite midfielder from another club then we just have to persevere with the draft and hope we get lucky. With Sheldrick, Roberts and Konstanty we have hopes for the future but what we now need is more pace.

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                            • Captain
                              Captain of the Side
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 3602

                              Interestingly Caroline Wilson has been slamming Grundy for choosing Sydney. She thinks he is picking the town over our club. What a bitter and twisted person she is.

                              Also Collingwood are making noises about not paying a part of his salary if he comes to Sydney. Surely they cannot do that?

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                              • waswan
                                Senior Player
                                • Oct 2015
                                • 2047

                                We just need to changed the COLA to mean something else.

                                Collingwood something living allowance

                                The irony is awesome

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