Rnd6 vs Geelong at GMHBA, Saturday 22 April, 7:25 PM (pre-match discussion)

[bloodspirit]

On the one hand, it's not looking good for us playing Geelong at the Cattery with so many injuries. On the other hand we are getting Geelong at a relatively good time, despite their recent wins. Overall, I don't like our chances this week.

I think liz is on the money with the match ups in our back half. Fox on Cameron is a no-brainer, although pretty much anyone is going to struggle matched up on Jezza. I think they'd have to consider calling up Francis, else why did we recruit him?? If they do call up Francis he and Gould could share the job on Hawkins according to who is having more success.

Assuming Amartey and Heeney are out and Buddy, both McCartins, Rampe and Melican remain unavailable then:

* would be great to get Hickey back but we can't rush him. Last week Damien Raper said he expected Hickey's "reintegration to full training and match play next week ".

* so bring in Francis and HHK as replacements for the outs.

We don't have many options.

[i'm-uninformed2]

The Age is also reporting Heeney will miss out this week due to a neck injury

There was a play in the third quarter where a Richmond player and he collided at an awkward angle and he was effectively head first into the Richmond player, and came away rubbing his neck as though he'd copped a stinger.

[liz]

There was a play in the third quarter where a Richmond player and he collided at an awkward angle and he was effectively head first into the Richmond player, and came away rubbing his neck as though he'd copped a stinger.

He then proceeded to play his best quarter of the year thus far, characterised by some tough contests won.

That said, if he’s sore (possibly not just from that contact, I’d prefer he’s rested. I suspect a major reason for the gap between his sublime best and his somewhat anonymous games is because he often plays sore.

Replying to other comments in this thread, I don’t see the point of picking both Francis and Gould to double up on Hawkins. Just go with the better bet. Francis might come into consideration as a replacement for Heeney, if that’s required but I don’t think packing the team with all the medium sized defenders we have is the way to go. We just need to accept that if the Cats are allowed to dictate what happens in the middle of the ground, Hawkins is going to get opportunities and he’ll probably score goals. We won’t have a defender capable of winning 50/50 contests against him. I think the coaches need to pick the best combination they can to match the Cats in the middle, to run out of defence when we can, and to optimise our own forward forays.

[Scottee]

I imagine Fox will be first choice for Cameron after the splendid job he did last time we played Geelong. Part of Cameron’s value is the way he works up and down the ground. I don’t think the coaches will want Blakey following wherever Cameron goes as it will take the only real height away from defensive 50.

There’s no one really to match up on Hawkins. I suspect Rampe will try, if he plays. If not, it might have to be a baptism of fire for Gould. He’ll probably lose contests against Hawkins, but I’m not sure Blakey would fare better. Hawkins creates most of his opportunities via brute strength, and via well timed leads where he uses his bulk to protect the drop zone.

The baptism of fire could be interesting. Gould is only a couple of kilos lighter than Hawkins and it will be interesting to see the positioning dual.

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[Ludwig]

Replying to other comments in this thread, I don’t see the point of picking both Francis and Gould to double up on Hawkins. Just go with the better bet. Francis might come into consideration as a replacement for Heeney, if that’s required but I don’t think packing the team with all the medium sized defenders we have is the way to go. We just need to accept that if the Cats are allowed to dictate what happens in the middle of the ground, Hawkins is going to get opportunities and he’ll probably score goals. We won’t have a defender capable of winning 50/50 contests against him. I think the coaches need to pick the best combination they can to match the Cats in the middle, to run out of defence when we can, and to optimise our own forward forays.

We could bring in Francis to replace Amartey in the forward line.

I can't see anyone who would be effective on Hawkins. We need to minimise the supply of ball coming into their forward line.

[Kafka's Ghost]

He then proceeded to play his best quarter of the year thus far, characterised by some tough contests won.

That said, if he’s sore (possibly not just from that contact, I’d prefer he’s rested. I suspect a major reason for the gap between his sublime best and his somewhat anonymous games is because he often plays sore.

Replying to other comments in this thread, I don’t see the point of picking both Francis and Gould to double up on Hawkins. Just go with the better bet. Francis might come into consideration as a replacement for Heeney, if that’s required but I don’t think packing the team with all the medium sized defenders we have is the way to go. We just need to accept that if the Cats are allowed to dictate what happens in the middle of the ground, Hawkins is going to get opportunities and he’ll probably score goals. We won’t have a defender capable of winning 50/50 contests against him. I think the coaches need to pick the best combination they can to match the Cats in the middle, to run out of defence when we can, and to optimise our own forward forays.

Excellent analysis of the situation.


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[wolftone57]

I haven't been particularly impressed by Francis in the VFL, but it's hard to shine given the quality of our side. Nonetheless, with Amartey out, Buddy either injured or in poor form and McLean a marginal player, Francis might be our best option to combine with McDonald at key forward.

I read somewhere that Heeney may be rested due to general soreness, but it's hard to keep him out. he often plays hurt.

I hope we keep Gould and Roberts in the 22 and we will see how injuries affect changes. I think Corey will be dropped, but not sure after that.

There's a chance Hickey might play and given our dearth of KPPs we could play both Hickey and Ladhams, as both are more than respectable playing forward. Good on Ladhams to get us through these 1st 5 weeks without Hickey. He deserves to keep his spot.


Stengle and Stanley will miss for Geelong

Paddy, Tom, Rampe & Franklin all to miss again according to the injury report.

Tom Hickey did full training last week and will be doing competitive training this week. Melican another week away. If Francis comes in he goes back for mine.

Harry the only out other than Amartey. His form has been terrible. I think the end has come. Gould and Warner to stay, Francis in and maybe Rankin as sub?

[Blood Fever]

Can't see how Cunningham goes out. His defensive forward job has been ok and he provides experience. Clarke has only played one AFL game.

[i'm-uninformed2]

Can't see how Cunningham goes out. His defensive forward job has been ok and he provides experience. Clarke has only played one AFL game.

Horse basically made clear in his presser today given the length of Clarke’s injury and recovery they’d be looking to further harden him up in ressies. Same with Hickey.

[Kafka's Ghost]

Can't see how Cunningham goes out. His defensive forward job has been ok and he provides experience. Clarke has only played one AFL game.

Agree. We were already the youngest team out there last weekend. We need all the experience we can get at the moment. Our injury list is very similar to Richmond. Despite all the blather the commentators spouted during the game.


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[Aaron]

Just finished reading the often "incomplete" Injury List and the Quotes from Horse:
(BTW, I have read somewhere reporting Heeney had a Scan of his neck and he was cleared of serious problem)
1.Gould into the 22, Francis as Sub
2.Gould into the 22, McAndrew as Sub
3.Gould into the 22, Clarke as Sub
4.Gould and Francis both in and C. Warner as Sub

5.Gould and McAndrew both in and C. Warner as Sub

6. Gould and Hickey both in and C.Warner as Sub

[waswan]

Sheldrick not mentoned anywhere ?
Thought he was the most likely to come up from the 2s

[Aaron]

Sheldrick not mentoned anywhere ?
Thought he was the most likely to come up from the 2s

Sheldrick didn't complete the last VFL match probably due to some undisclosed injuries. Could be minor or?

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[Roadrunner]

Horse basically made clear in his presser today given the length of Clarke’s injury and recovery they’d be looking to further harden him up in ressies. Same with Hickey.

Agreed- too risky to rush them back. This will be a difficult game due to all our outs but we usually play ok at the Cattery. We may as well bring in Francis and HHK and anybody else the coaches may consider as the boys will do their best, given the opportunity. Is there a spot to try Big Mac or is it too early? Apparently he has been improving heaps in the two’s.

[bloodspirit]

No way should McAndrew be sub. Don't mind the idea of bringing him as first ruck and moving Ladhams forward but given (a) it's good for Ladhams to get some continuity and he's been going well enough in the ruck; and (b) Ladhams is a poor mark, I lean towards leaving McAndrew in the twos.

I like the idea of bringing in HHK. No idea if it's on the cards.

I think Sheldrick sustained some kind of a rib injury last match. Not sure if he'll be right to go and in contention for a call up this weekend. I'd love to see him join the senior side but we'll see.