Rnd 10 - Pre Match Thread - vs North Melbourne at Marvel Stadium, Saturday 20 May, 1:454 PM

[dejavoodoo44]

Can Will Gould play forward? Francis seems a better defender than forward, as an interceptor and given his dodgy set shot.

Don't recall Gould playing as a forward. He's kicked the occasional goal, but I think most of them have been roosts from between 40-60 out. If Ladhams is fit, then perhaps he comes in; then him and Hickey can share the tall forward and ruck roles. If not, McAndrew makes his debut in the ruck and Hickey spends much of the game playing as a forward.

[liz]

Don't recall Gould playing as a forward. He's kicked the occasional goal, but I think most of them have been roosts from between 40-60 out. If Ladhams is fit, then perhaps he comes in; then him and Hickey can share the tall forward and ruck roles. If not, McAndrew makes his debut in the ruck and Hickey spends much of the game playing as a forward.

Melican might be ready to come back in. Francis could then go forward. I agree with whoever said Francis looks like a better defender than forward, but we may not be in a position to be picky.

[chalbilto]

I think that Francis should play in defence. Maybe the Swans should play a small forward line with Buddy and McLean up front bringing the ball to ground.

[MattW]

Melican might be ready to come back in. Francis could then go forward. I agree with whoever said Francis looks like a better defender than forward, but we may not be in a position to be picky.

It will be interesting to see whether Tom McCartin is back. Otherwise, I'd rather Melican come in for Gould and Francis stay back. I think that makes us much more solid than Melican and Gould back there with Fox, and I'd rather us focus on growing Francis in that interceping role.

Re forward, agree with deja above - time for two rucks, McLean as a forward with Buddy.

We need to find a way to get more out of Hayward. Maybe time for a look at Hall-Kahan - either as sub or for Sheather.

[MattW]

Don't recall Gould playing as a forward. He's kicked the occasional goal, but I think most of them have been roosts from between 40-60 out. If Ladhams is fit, then perhaps he comes in; then him and Hickey can share the tall forward and ruck roles. If not, McAndrew makes his debut in the ruck and Hickey spends much of the game playing as a forward.

Agree with you re the approach to the forward-line.

The question was semi-rhetorical/facetious, but Gould is not looking at all good as a defender, so I wonder whether there's a remote chance he could be re-tooled as a forward. There are plenty of examples of players originally tried as forwards moving back - Barry, Grundy, Richards, McCartin, but fewer the other way.

[The Big Cat]

If Tom McM and Ladhams are fit then they would come in plus Gus and Dyl for Mills, Logan, Sheather and Gould. Even if Tom and Pete are not fit, the outs should be the same. Maybe McAndrew comes in with Cory Warner.

The Gould question has been settled once and for all. He’s like so many footballers, he’s found his level one grade down.

[i'm-uninformed2]

One thing we will have to watch for the year is not cooking the players we have left, or it risks carrying over into 2024. As much as the limited list allows, we will need to occasionally rotate and manage players, via rest or time on ground.

[707]

Opposition ruck this week? The still highly effective Goldstein will generate plenty of drive for Norf.

Given Norf's form the past two months I can't believe this could even remotely be a danger game but ..........

Yikes!!

[RogueSwan]

Opposition ruck this week? The still highly effective Goldstein will generate plenty of drive for Norf.

Given Norf's form the past two months I can't believe this could even remotely be a danger game but ..........

Yikes!!

... they did jump a couple of seasons ago.

[Roadrunner]

If Tom McM and Ladhams are fit then they would come in plus Gus and Dyl for Mills, Logan, Sheather and Gould. Even if Tom and Pete are not fit, the outs should be the same. Maybe McAndrew comes in with Cory Warner.

The Gould question has been settled once and for all. He’s like so many footballers, he’s found his level one grade down.

Not yet totally convinced re Gould. In fairness, he needs a run of games to assess. This season is gone so we may as well play him, Francis and the Pelican down back. If Ladhams is fit, play him up forward and bring in McAndrew to ruck. Buddy sub, I’m afraid, but it won’t happen!

[Jimitron5000]

Gould is now 3 games into his career, and he has been brought into a defensive unit decimated by injuries. It's not the easiest start to his career. Give him a run of games - we won't know if he is an AFL standard footballer if we don't play him.

[JulieHC]

Gould is now 3 games into his career, and he has been brought into a defensive unit decimated by injuries. It's not the easiest start to his career. Give him a run of games - we won't know if he is an AFL standard footballer if we don't play him.

Yes agree, can’t think of a better time to just play him and see how he goes, then we will know one way or another if he stays on our list

[waswan]

Gould is now 3 games into his career, and he has been brought into a defensive unit decimated by injuries. It's not the easiest start to his career. Give him a run of games - we won't know if he is an AFL standard footballer if we don't play him.

3 games and 4yrs.... That covid year we had a similar injury list to this year and he still couldnt get a game

Clearly there is an issue if he isnt getting games and he isnt getting taken by others

[Ruck'n'Roll]

Jimitron is right. FFS play kids, I know it's mathematically possible to make the finals - but give it a rest.
I was one of he first to herald the rise of the new kids, and got rubbished for it, so suck up the pain of not making the finals (FFS we are Swannies we are champions of that) and move on.
New picks next season, hopefully we don't @@@@ it up - pich up a blue ship tall defender or two.

[wolftone57]

Harley Reid Cup!

Longmire in the post 9 game interview has said both Mills and McDonald are highly unlikely to play (but we will know more as it gets closer to final team selection).

Sheather had 73% time on ground for 5 possessions. I know he needs more games/experience and we got smashed at the centre bounce, but it was still very low output and impact. Gould was not great, but we don't have other options other than Melican so I suppose he stays.

Hoping Ladhams is well enough to play.

Outs: Mills, McDonald
Ins: Sheldrick, Ladhams
Sub: Stephens

Logan 8 weeks Mills about 6, a hammy. Will Tommy play? I hope he is OK and can play.

We?need to address some weaknesses. One is our inability to run and chase defensively in the mids because they are baked.

Our forwards need some cohesion and the mids have to find some sync with them.

Forwards are no chasing hard in a defensive structure

Our mids mix is too shallow with Paps & Heens obviously not fit enough to do many mi utes in there. If that is a problem chuck Wilbur in there.

Sheldrick to replace Mills & PLAY MIDS NOT FORWARD HORSE.

Backs need to settle and get some system back. Everyone has been talking about how bad both Gould & Francis have been.?But the greatest FB?of all time Silvagni would struggle in our backs at present. With the ball coming down so fast because the mids are off their men because they are baked. The other problem is there is no organisation and the coaches are getting the match ups badly wrong too.

Lets the kids down back settle and hopefully Lloyd will take some responsibility this week. He is a good player but not much of a organiser unfortunately and Fox seems to be a quiet sort of guy. Harry is loud but maybe lacks organisational skills? We need someone to step up back there.

They have lots of injuries as well. Two more out of our team. We can't replace Logan. So, we might go one of two ways, or both if we go opposite in the sub, tall or small. Bring in a ruck, Ladhams if fit or McAndrew or a small forward in Hall-Khan. Sheldrick to replace Mills IN THE MIDS HORSE.



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