Round 13 Pre Match Thread - vs St Kilda at the SCG, Thursday 8 June, 7:10 PM

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  • Markwebbos
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    • Jul 2016
    • 7186

    #16
    It would be great if Amartey came back this week along with Rampe.

    Agree Wicks stays. How capable is he of tagging a defender?

    I thought McLean plays better when he doesn’t have to ruck … hope they think Amartey is ready to ruck first game back?

    I can see them picking Stephens and playing Gulden more inside.

    Which defender makes way for Rampe?

    Amartey for McAndrew
    Stephens for Parker
    Rampe for Clarke!?!

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    • crackedactor 01
      Regular in the Side
      • Jun 2020
      • 742

      #17
      I was also thinking Clarke. To me he looks even slower than last year. A week ago they said Mills was a chance. Obviously he did not progress as well as they had hoped. Great to have Rampe and Amartey back in the team. Looking forward to seeing the 2 new recruits but their game is on a Friday at 1.05 pm? Going to be difficult to watch.

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      • i'm-uninformed2
        Reefer Madness
        • Oct 2003
        • 4653

        #18
        With Amartey, our job over the next eight to 10 weeks is to convince him to re-sign. That ultimately means a good stretch in seniors and him loving his football. Now, that could include a week or two in ressies to build his body properly. As long as the coaches are having the right conversations with him, which I’m sure they will, it should be cool.
        'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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        • wolftone57
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          • Aug 2008
          • 5851

          #19
          Originally posted by i'm-uninformed2
          With Amartey, our job over the next eight to 10 weeks is to convince him to re-sign. That ultimately means a good stretch in seniors and him loving his football. Now, that could include a week or two in ressies to build his body properly. As long as the coaches are having the right conversations with him, which I’m sure they will, it should be cool.
          Yes, I think he is pivotal to our style. He is the strongest lead up forward we have.? His agity, ground work, second efforts and tackling make him a major part of the equation.

          I think maybe we need to replace Clarke. I was watching the Blues game and he was just too slow on several occasions. What's more, when he did get the ball he takes forever to make a decision. He has been good but maybe it is time to move him back to the reserves.

          It looks like both new boys will play reserves. That is understandable. Rampe, Amartey, Stephens come in probably.? How is Hickey? He has seemed a bit off in all matches he's played so far. Ladhams is a few weeks away too, so no help there. Stretch rotating with both McLean and Amartey would actually be very good. Stretch can get HO and is improving his ground work every week. His tackling is elite.

          With Rampe back we can shuffle the board markers around. Maybe Ollie and Blakey through the mids at times in this game. Heens full time mid resting forward.

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          • ugg
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            • Jan 2003
            • 15968

            #20
            Rampe and Sheldrick in for McAndrew and Parker

            Emg McAndrew Stephens Co.Warner Amartey

            Assume Francis will shift forward
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            • wolftone57
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              • Aug 2008
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              #21
              I a a little underwhelmed by the lack of change. Rampe is a welcome change but does Sheldrick come in as part of th e mids or as a forward who pinch hits in the mids and only gets about 40 minutes game time anyway?

              Clarke is a little lucky we still have injuries and so is Harry even though he has been quite reliable since going back. But he still gets turned around by good opponents. If possible, I'd like to see Fox play the role Harry has been playing on the dangerous small to medium forwards. That is a role Fox excels in.

              I hope we will be really competitive. But until we get Amartey back into the line up we will struggle to kick big scores. Logan as well. Those guys were waxing early season. I think with Buller putting pressure on the performances will get better.

              As for the backs the same applies. Arnold putting pressure on our talls will make them better and soon he might be a part of our back 7.

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              • wolftone57
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                • Aug 2008
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                #22
                Originally posted by ugg
                Rampe and Sheldrick in for McAndrew and Parker

                Emg McAndrew Stephens Co.Warner Amartey

                Assume Francis will shift forward
                Why assume that? They have a resting ruck. They have brought in another tall in Owens. Who is going to play on the talls, Fox? Rampe needs to take Membrey. Who takes Owens, King and Camaniti? Melican to King. That leaves 191cm Owens and 196cm Camaniti. Who, if Francis goes forward, will take them? Blakey to Owens. But Camaniti is far too tall for Fox. Maybe Blakey takes Cameniti but that makes him a defensive back again on the last line. That does not work

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                • ugg
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                  • Jan 2003
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                  #23
                  Membrey isn’t in their team but even if he was I wouldn’t see a problem with Rampe Fox and Melican matching up on them

                  Bringing Rampe in without omitting a defender means someone who played in the back 7 last week has to shift.
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                  • waswan
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                    • Oct 2015
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                    #24
                    Leave Francis down back and release Ollie or Blakey

                    Ramps being our third tall is a dream come true

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                    • wolftone57
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                      • Aug 2008
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by ugg
                      Membrey isn’t in their team but even if he was I wouldn’t see a problem with Rampe Fox and Melican matching up on them

                      Bringing Rampe in without omitting a defender means someone who played in the back 7 last week has to shift.
                      Well I think Ollie to the mids lol

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                      • liz
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                        • Jan 2003
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by waswan
                        Leave Francis down back and release Ollie or Blakey

                        Ramps being our third tall is a dream come true
                        Except that by omitting McAndrew, we are effectively reducing the talls available in the forward line for the period McLean has to relive McLean in the ruck. I expect that, at times, Francis will be moved forward but maybe not for the whole game.

                        We do seem to now have more defenders than we need. I doubt Blakey will shift, given he's been so effective down there in recent weeks. But Campbell has already been spending time up on the wing, and we might see him play more - or all - of the game further up the ground.

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                        • wolftone57
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by liz
                          Except that by omitting McAndrew, we are effectively reducing the talls available in the forward line for the period McLean has to relive McLean in the ruck. I expect that, at times, Francis will be moved forward but maybe not for the whole game.

                          We do seem to now have more defenders than we need. I doubt Blakey will shift, given he's been so effective down there in recent weeks. But Campbell has already been spending time up on the wing, and we might see him play more - or all - of the game further up the ground.
                          Yes Campbell will playwing changing in the mids most likely. Gus will probably play forward for most of the game. I do not like him forward. He just does not have that awareness needed to play there.

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                          • liz
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                            • Jan 2003
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by wolftone57
                            Yes Campbell will playwing changing in the mids most likely. Gus will probably play forward for most of the game. I do not like him forward. He just does not have that awareness needed to play there.

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                            I suspect he's been brought in with a view to giving him a game playing substantially on-ball. It's something of a risk from the coaching team, given he's barely been trusted with centre-bounce attendances in the cameos he's played. But with Parker out (and Mills back soon, we hope), it might be the best chance he'll get this season to show if he can replicate his VFL clearance work.

                            With Wicks and Clarke in the side, I very much doubt he's been brought in as a small forward.

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                            • wolftone57
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                              • Aug 2008
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by liz
                              I suspect he's been brought in with a view to giving him a game playing substantially on-ball. It's something of a risk from the coaching team, given he's barely been trusted with centre-bounce attendances in the cameos he's played. But with Parker out (and Mills back soon, we hope), it might be the best chance he'll get this season to show if he can replicate his VFL clearance work.

                              With Wicks and Clarke in the side, I very much doubt he's been brought in as a small forward.
                              I am hoping not because he sucks as a small forward. He is a natural mid in the Mitchell vein, not as talented but same type.

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                              • ugg
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                                #30
                                Originally posted by liz
                                Except that by omitting McAndrew, we are effectively reducing the talls available in the forward line for the period McLean has to relive McLean in the ruck. I expect that, at times, Francis will be moved forward but maybe not for the whole game.

                                We do seem to now have more defenders than we need. I doubt Blakey will shift, given he's been so effective down there in recent weeks. But Campbell has already been spending time up on the wing, and we might see him play more - or all - of the game further up the ground.
                                Except I think Campbell has spent very little time in defence lately. The back 7 against Carlton was Melican Fox Francis Blakey Lloyd Cunningham and Florent. Of the smalls Florent looks most likely to shift but I don’t think they will do that
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