Rnd 15 - vs West Coast Eagles at SCG, 4:35 PM, Saturday 24 June 2023

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  • Roadrunner
    Senior Player
    • Jan 2018
    • 1448

    #76
    Originally posted by liz
    But the coaches are looking at far more than what is shown on the screen. And that they value.
    Maybe so Liz- there can be a fair bit of off the ball play we don’t see. Mind you, I’m not saying he needs to get 20+ possessions but shouldn’t he at least make double figures? The ball was in our forward area a fair bit especially in the first half last week- he should have done a lot more. Then his miss in the last quarter was careless for a player of his experience, from a relatively short distance. We still may not have won the game but boy it would have put some pressure on the Lions! Now anyone can miss a shot at goal- it just looked so bad as he ran much too close to the man on the mark……….

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    • RogueSwan
      McVeigh for Brownlow
      • Apr 2003
      • 4602

      #77
      Originally posted by Blood Fever
      Fox can't play on guys like Charlie Cameron. He's versatile but not that versatile.
      He played ruck in the forward line recently, was it the Blions?

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      • Blood Fever
        Veterans List
        • Apr 2007
        • 4040

        #78
        Was at the game and yes he did play forward and a bit in the ruck until the last quarter when he went back and Francis went forward. Not sure why.

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        Originally posted by Roadrunner
        Maybe so Liz- there can be a fair bit of off the ball play we don’t see. Mind you, I’m not saying he needs to get 20+ possessions but shouldn’t he at least make double figures? The ball was in our forward area a fair bit especially in the first half last week- he should have done a lot more. Then his miss in the last quarter was careless for a player of his experience, from a relatively short distance. We still may not have won the game but boy it would have put some pressure on the Lions! Now anyone can miss a shot at goal- it just looked so bad as he ran much too close to the man on the mark……….
        He also kicked one in the last quarter and set one up playing as a leading forwatd.

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        • Dow
          Regular in the Side
          • Sep 2022
          • 799

          #79
          Originally posted by Blood Fever
          Fox can't play on guys like Charlie Cameron. He's versatile but not that versatile.
          Are you kidding absolutely he can ! And provides a lot additional run

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          • Captain
            Captain of the Side
            • Feb 2004
            • 3602

            #80
            Stunned by Fox.

            He should be in every day of the week ahead of Francis.

            Starting to think Longmires time is up. Clearly not thinking straight.

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            • Ludwig
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 9359

              #81
              I noted earlier that it would be a difficult decision as to who gets dropped for Mills. I'm a big fan of Fox, like most on here, but it actually came down to a choice of dropping Sheldrick or Fox, Given the matchups and the development we want to put into Sheldrick, I am not surprised at all that we dropped Fox. When our team is healthy, selection becomes hard, as it should be. I don't think it's a reflection on the value of Fox.

              It makes sense that McCartin would come back through the VFL. We wouldn't want him to have concussion symptoms in the first quarter, would we? He needs to be tested out under more flexible conditions.

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              • liz
                Veteran
                Site Admin
                • Jan 2003
                • 16738

                #82
                Originally posted by Ludwig
                but it actually came down to a choice of dropping Sheldrick or Fox,
                Not really. Francis is still in the side. Fox is capable of doing any role that Francis can - better - and a whole load of other roles too.

                I'm puzzled by the decision. I hope it's just to give him a bit of breather from a niggle.

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                • RogueSwan
                  McVeigh for Brownlow
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 4602

                  #83
                  Originally posted by liz
                  Not really. Francis is still in the side. Fox is capable of doing any role that Francis can - better - and a whole load of other roles too.

                  I'm puzzled by the decision. I hope it's just to give him a bit of breather from a niggle.
                  Yep, hopefully just a rest week after having to lead, exceptionally well, an undermanned defence most of the season.

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                  • Blood Fever
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 4040

                    #84
                    Hard to fathom.....Maybe we're trying to boost Francis' confidence but only guessing. Must be more than meets the eye.

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                    • longmile
                      Crumber
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 3362

                      #85
                      Fox is in our top 10 best players. I reckon Longmire has lost it this year

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                      • bodgie
                        Regular in the Side
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 501

                        #86
                        Longmire has said he hasn't given up on our finals dream. He has learnt from Geelong and is resting our champions, like Fox, so they are peaking in September

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                        • Ludwig
                          Veterans List
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9359

                          #87
                          Originally posted by liz
                          Not really. Francis is still in the side. Fox is capable of doing any role that Francis can - better - and a whole load of other roles too.

                          I'm puzzled by the decision. I hope it's just to give him a bit of breather from a niggle.
                          The Eagles are playing 3 tall forwards plus 2 ruckmen. Yes, we could have dropped Francis, but I don't think we want to go into games too undersized in defence. We also prefer not being forced to play Blakey as a key defender. I think Longmire wants to find some stability with our key defender coverage, which is why Francis kept his spot. I think Francis will only be dropped for another KPD (McCartin or Arnold).

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                          • Blood Fever
                            Veterans List
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 4040

                            #88
                            Sounds logical and would have been explained within the club. Probably more angst on here than amongst the playing group.

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                            • caj23
                              Senior Player
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 2462

                              #89
                              Ridiculous move to drop Fox

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                              • waswan
                                Senior Player
                                • Oct 2015
                                • 2047

                                #90
                                Fox legitimately can blame the coaches for getting dropped

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