Swans Off Season Discussion

[stellation]

I have to say considering how brutal AFL is and supposedly our contested footy drills

I suspect that a wrestle with a mate is probably the least of our worries Re causing an injury…..and no worse than anything involving his shoulder in footy

I see it as just unlucky and a wrestle with a mate is not off limits given how much wrestling they do at training

Did u hear McRae say that for two years straight after every drill they do one on one contested fighting for the ball for 2mins

That is probably hours of wrestling every week

I appreciate that logic, and I tend to view it as a tad unlucky; but without knowing the full details, if it was during a Mad Monday event and they were inebriated it's very different to sober wrestling at training.

[i'm-uninformed2]

I do think we need to avoid tut-tutting this stuff too much.

I get it’s not ideal if - and we don’t know yet - it intrudes on next season. But we can’t coddle them completely, and they are just as likely to injure themselves with other ‘outlets’.

A good dozen of the players surf. Well, I’ve variously blown a knee, busted an eardrum and got a bad infection that last two months after being dragged over a reef whilst surfing.

Plenty of them play golf. I’ve got hit by a stray ball once that left a swelling and bruise on my arm for six weeks, and a mate I was playing with trod in a sprinkler hole and broke his ankle.

Stuff happens. I get people don’t like the drunken tomfoolery element, but they’re allowed some fun.

[KTigers]

Yep, golf can be brutal. The damage done to your bank account from joining a posh club, not getting the tee time you want,
the indignity of being told to tuck your shirt in by the course marshal who is younger than you, being told by the bartender
the Peroni pint glasses haven't been chilled correctly and the humiliation of four-putting from inside 20 feet. I have been
suffering these injuries for years. I reckon Mills has got off light.

[stellation]

Yep, golf can be brutal. The damage done to your bank account from joining a posh club, not getting the tee time you want,
the indignity of being told to tuck your shirt in by the course marshal who is younger than you, being told by the bartender
the Peroni pint glasses haven't been chilled correctly and the humiliation of four-putting from inside 20 feet. I have been
suffering these injuries for years. I reckon Mills has got off light.

Since we're engaging in a little pearl clutching in this thread, I must say I find the idea of drinking Peroni from pint glasses a tad gauche.

[KTigers]

They are not strictly pint glasses, but they have a pint of beer in them. Allegedly. These blokes are just doing what a lot of
20-somethings do every weekend. I'm giving them a free pass. It's been a long season.

[ugg]

Mills has ruptured his rotator cuff - torn it from the bone. This can be 9-12 months.

He was mucking around with Jacob Konstanty when the injury occurred. It was innocuous at the time. Teammates didn’t even notice. @1116sen https://t.co/jzBMCRaI8R

— Tom Morris (@tommorris32) September 27, 2023

[Dow]

Disappointing for Mills and the Club, set to miss a large junk of the season in his prime - fingers crossed it’s not as bad as reported

[The Big Cat]

Mills has ruptured his rotator cuff - torn it from the bone. This can be 9-12 months.

He was mucking around with Jacob Konstanty when the injury occurred. It was innocuous at the time. Teammates didn’t even notice. @1116sen https://t.co/jzBMCRaI8R

— Tom Morris (@tommorris32) September 27, 2023

Konstantin now needs to step up big time!

[Jimitron5000]

That's disappointing. He had an average year and now goes and does this!

[Bloods05]

Konstantin now needs to step up big time!

Konstanty even more so!

[Nico]

I am unlike most of the previous posters. This is has to be one of the dumbest things an AFL captain has done, and he of all people should know better after his previous incident. I wonder if for one nano second he stopped to think this stuff is dangerous and stupid. Most Mad Mondays are benign events where a group of blokes get a little pi55ed. Not our captain, he leads from the front and decides to wrestle a kid, not one of the senior players (they probably know better).

Here we were on RWO very recently talking up our prospects for next season and this clown does this. He should be kicked out of the leadership group and sent back to the HBF. He is paid big money and we help pay for it. Leadership is more than on the field performance. My respect for Mills has gone down the gurgler. He should be made to do a leadership course in the off season. Only a heart felt apology to supporters will restore any faith I have in him.

Barry posted recently that with 29 seconds left in the elimination final Mills was wrestling with Cripps to stop him getting possession at the centre bounce, instead of trying to win possession. He failed that wrestling effort also. Oh the irony of Barry's comment. I suspect the club will ban Mad Mondays from now on.

The silver linings: maybe we will go for the best midfielder available in the draft and the opportunity provides for another player to step in the midfield. Campbell, JMac and Sheldrick get their chance. It looks to me that the obvious choice is Mills to the HBF (less need to draft KPD's) and Campbell in the guts.

[Nico]

Nothing like getting into a bidding war for a bloke recovering from an ACL thats never looked like making a All Oz team.

Assume after Naismith and AJ our medical team are looking for their next challenge

Callum Mills anyone?

[Nico]

Does Mills 9 to 12 month injury recovery change anything for recruitment?

June to September 2024 we can expect to see Mills miss minimum 12 rounds of footy and possibly 24 rounds

That is a massive amount for a key player / mid

Irresponsible individual. But the big question for me is how is he going to be able to text message. He will have to get someone to help him text his leadership wisdom to the young players. Is it his right or left shoulder. He might get neck problems if he is constantly looking down and texting with the good arm. or even worse RSI. At the B&F it is more than possible that he will get the Goose of the Year Award.

[The Big Cat]

I am unlike most of the previous posters. This is has to be one of the dumbest things an AFL captain has done, and he of all people should know better after his previous incident. I wonder if for one nano second he stopped to think this stuff is dangerous and stupid. Most Mad Mondays are benign events where a group of blokes get a little pi55ed. Not our captain, he leads from the front and decides to wrestle a kid, not one of the senior players (they probably know better).

Here we were on RWO very recently talking up our prospects for next season and this clown does this. He should be kicked out of the leadership group and sent back to the HBF. He is paid big money and we help pay for it. Leadership is more than on the field performance. My respect for Mills has gone down the gurgler. He should be made to do a leadership course in the off season. Only a heart felt apology to supporters will restore any faith I have in him.

Barry posted recently that with 29 seconds left in the elimination final Mills was wrestling with Cripps to stop him getting possession at the centre bounce, instead of trying to win possession. He failed that wrestling effort also. Oh the irony of Barry's comment. I suspect the club will ban Mad Mondays from now on.

The silver linings: maybe we will go for the best midfielder available in the draft and the opportunity provides for another player to step in the midfield. Campbell, JMac and Sheldrick get their chance. It looks to me that the obvious choice is Mills to the HBF (less need to draft KPD's) and Campbell in the guts.

Accident. Who could possibly anticipate an injury of this severity from a bit of a wrestle between two young blokes who are not out to hurt each other.

[Nico]

Accident. Who could possibly anticipate an injury of this severity from a bit of a wrestle between two young blokes who are not out to hurt each other.

Two blokes wrestling at a function is juvenile stuff. Mills at 26 is not a young bloke and should have known better. One could speculate that he was the "mature adult" involved. To do his shoulder as he did, one could assume that it was far more vigorous than a little bit of fun. Amazingly the kid got him down for the 3 count.