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  • dejavoodoo44
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2015
    • 8581

    #46
    Originally posted by Dow
    Warner maybe a better option as a sub, he provides more flexibility and Wicks has been quite good last 2 weeks as sub and deserves a full run
    Yes, Wicks deserves a go in the starting side. Which might see Papley spend a little bit more time in midfield.

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    • Roadrunner
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2018
      • 1470

      #47
      Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
      Yes, Wicks deserves a go in the starting side. Which might see Papley spend a little bit more time in midfield.
      Wicks has been good the last 2 games as sub, kicking a goal in each at important moments in the last quarter. However, I would like to keep blooding young Corey as barring further injuries he may find it difficult to break into the team. So I would leave Wicks as the sub again, but I can see Horse giving him a full game.

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      • Captain
        Captain of the Side
        • Feb 2004
        • 3602

        #48
        Shame about Foxy.

        Warner a good choice of sub and Wicks a good replacement of Fox.

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        • MattW
          Veterans List
          • May 2011
          • 4212

          #49
          Originally posted by Dow
          Fox out - Warner in.
          Fox has had a very good start to the year and help make the forward line more dangerous, his defensive as well some nice forward craft have been a real bonus.

          Warner most likely the sub, not much of a Fan reminds me of Dylan Stephens
          Warner is coming on well. Liked his preseason game.

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          • Dow
            Regular in the Side
            • Sep 2022
            • 826

            #50
            Originally posted by MattW
            Warner is coming on well. Liked his preseason game.
            Honestly I don’t see it, but hey as always happy to be proven wrong

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            • rojo
              Opti-pessi-misti
              • Mar 2009
              • 1103

              #51
              I don't think Lloyd is going to be dropped any time soon. According to a Chad in an interview on the Swan's website Lloyd is pretty much the director around the ground, whether he's playing back or whether he's playing wing. 'He sorts all the boys out and gets the structures right and he's like a commander out there for us'.

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              • Dow
                Regular in the Side
                • Sep 2022
                • 826

                #52
                Originally posted by rojo
                I don't think Lloyd is going to be dropped any time soon. According to a Chad in an interview on the Swan's website Lloyd is pretty much the director around the ground, whether he's playing back or whether he's playing wing. 'He sorts all the boys out and gets the structures right and he's like a commander out there for us'.
                I’d say until Parker or Mills are back - only them will a decision need to be made

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                • graemed
                  Swans2win
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 410

                  #53
                  Fox’s absence will be felt.
                  Not only his ground ball and forward 50 pressure which have been elite, but also he is an aerial threat, his marking is usually assured and he has the timing to arrive at the right instant to either spoil or mark.
                  Wicks and Warner Jnr can provide the ground ball and forward 50 pressure but they are much less threatening in marking contests.
                  As a bigger body, Fox also makes tackles count, a trait that Wicks can provide but unfortunately also has a habit of giving away frees and losing control. Wick’s aggression is a positive if he keeps a lid on it.

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                  • neilfws
                    Senior Player
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 1822

                    #54
                    Originally posted by graemed
                    Fox’s absence will be felt.
                    Yes, he has played an important role the last couple of games, it will be interesting to see how much that affects the structure and how they compensate for it.

                    Bombers Twitter feed says that Parish is out, replaced by Ben Hobbs with Dylan Shiel an emergency.

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                    • liz
                      Veteran
                      Site Admin
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 16761

                      #55
                      Originally posted by graemed
                      Fox’s absence will be felt.
                      but also he is an aerial threat ...Warner Jnr ... much less threatening in marking contests.
                      I read somewhere a few weeks ago (but can't remember where) that Warner wowed the coaches and team mates over the pre-season with his leap and general aerial prowess. I do recall he scored highly in the jumping tests in his draft combine.

                      I guess the proof will be (in the eating of ) the pudding.

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                      • giant
                        Veterans List
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 4731

                        #56
                        Good news re Parish - seems to be somewhat maligned, but I think he's an excellent young footballer who always seems to play well against us (tho I do think he stole Luke P's 2022 AA spot).

                        I feel like someone on RWO called the long shot of Warner Jr tho can't now find the post - anyway, well done to whomever that was.

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                        Originally posted by Dow
                        Warner most likely the sub, not much of a Fan reminds me of Dylan Stephens
                        Maybe, but he didn't cost us a top 5 draft pick. Oh, there I go again - "Move on Giant, for gods sake move on."

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                        • Dow
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Sep 2022
                          • 826

                          #57
                          Originally posted by giant
                          Good news re Parish - seems to be somewhat maligned, but I think he's an excellent young footballer who always seems to play well against us (tho I do think he stole Luke P's 2022 AA spot).

                          I feel like someone on RWO called the long shot of Warner Jr tho can't now find the post - anyway, well done to whomever that was.

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                          Maybe, but he didn't cost us a top 5 draft pick. Oh, there I go again - "Move on Giant, for gods sake move on."
                          Lol I live in Perth every time I hear Serongs name I cringe and think of Dylan Stephens - I feel your pain

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                          • liz
                            Veteran
                            Site Admin
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 16761

                            #58
                            If anyone is (still) trying to get over the selection of Stephens over Serong, maybe you can console yourself with the possibility that we might not have drafted Warner (of the Chad variety) in the same draft had we selected Serong. Beatson explained the selection of Stephens as wanting "an inside-outside mid" - someone who could switch between the two modes. The Warner that we drafted was (I think) seen as an inside bull, with his tackling and contest work his main features.

                            If we had selected Serong with an eye to him becoming an inside footballer, we might have gone a different direction with that later pick. Although admittedly I am not sure if Serong was shaping up as an inside (mini)-bull as an 18yo. I think he was seen as a small forward who might be able to move into the midfield. Regardless, he's become predominantly an inside player.

                            I'm not convinced "ironically" is the exact right word here, but I'll use it anyway: "Ironically" Warner has become that inside/outside midfielder that Beatson was looking for. Someone who can do some inside work and attend centre bounces but also has the speed and ball usage to do damage on the edges and the outsides of packs.

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                            • crackedactor 01
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Jun 2020
                              • 742

                              #59
                              No Jack Buller in the VFL. Will he be a late replacement for Amartey/McDonald?

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                              • liz
                                Veteran
                                Site Admin
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 16761

                                #60
                                Originally posted by crackedactor 01
                                No Jack Buller in the VFL. Will he be a late replacement for Amartey/McDonald?
                                No. He's not listed as an emergency. Even if he were a "hidden emergency" he would be named in the VFL team, just as the actual emergencies are.

                                The likely explanation is that he's injured. It isn't news to us that fringe players are not consistently included in the official injury reports or lists.

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