Rnd 8 vs GWS at the SCG on Saturday May 4th at 1:45pm 2024.

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  • Auntie.Gerald
    Veterans List
    • Oct 2009
    • 6474

    #31
    Hey Stevo

    It’s not about the recent injury for Callum

    Callum has struggled with Achilles tendinitis and calf strains most of his AFL career.

    It was that the Swans were not transparent re his rotator cuff injury and estimated time to recover when the media and players and many supporters know that it is a tricky injury / surgery to rehab from and was always going to be around 9months which it is right now since his surgery.

    The Swans did t seem to like the headlines of out for 9months and second time Callum had a significant accident via post season mad Mondays etc.

    It just frustrated me that the Swans Media shut up shop for the first few months (post Callum’s surgery) not acknowledging the approx length of time to recover and not tell the truth.

    Every other player on the injury list ….the Swans provide a good indication of injury and recovery time.

    Callums reporting was a making out it was a mystery and an outlier for recovery / return to footy for months post surgery. It wasn’t until week 1 Feb when the Swans announced Mills as sole captain that they started to say mid season 2024 for a return.

    It just stunk of a cover up. Yet it was obvious that he was out for way longer than the club wanted to communicate.

    Why would the Swans do this?

    Why not take it on the chin and move on?

    Why not own up rather than cover up?

    Why did the Swans choose to this for Callum only?

    It is just not what the Bloods stand for so why bend? Why hide?
    "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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    • liz
      Veteran
      Site Admin
      • Jan 2003
      • 16736

      #32
      Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
      Hey Stevo

      It’s not about the recent injury for Callum

      Callum has struggled with Achilles tendinitis and calf strains most of his AFL career.

      It was that the Swans were not transparent re his rotator cuff injury and estimated time to recover when the media and players and many supporters know that it is a tricky injury / surgery to rehab from and was always going to be around 9months which it is right now since his surgery.

      The Swans did t seem to like the headlines of out for 9months and second time Callum had a significant accident via post season mad Mondays etc.

      It just frustrated me that the Swans Media shut up shop for the first few months (post Callum’s surgery) not acknowledging the approx length of time to recover and not tell the truth.

      Every other player on the injury list ….the Swans provide a good indication of injury and recovery time.

      Callums reporting was a making out it was a mystery and an outlier for recovery / return to footy for months post surgery. It wasn’t until week 1 Feb when the Swans announced Mills as sole captain that they started to say mid season 2024 for a return.

      It just stunk of a cover up. Yet it was obvious that he was out for way longer than the club wanted to communicate.

      Why would the Swans do this?

      Why not take it on the chin and move on?

      Why not own up rather than cover up?

      Why did the Swans choose to this for Callum only?

      It is just not what the Bloods stand for so why bend? Why hide?
      The other - and more likely - possibility is that there was a lot of uncertainty around the time frame.

      I see no reason to presume "cover up" or misleading communication or mystery.

      If it is simply the case that he's tweaked a calf as he starts to ramp up his running (and I see no reason to doubt this), does that not illustrate just how hard it is to put definitive timelines on long term injuries?

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      • stevoswan
        Veterans List
        • Sep 2014
        • 8543

        #33
        I agree with Liz....no club has a crystal ball.

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        • graemed
          Swans2win
          • Jan 2003
          • 410

          #34
          Rampe is a great match-up for the Toby but I prefer Florent for this job. I want to see how accountable we can make him and his lack of sustained pace and endurance can be exposed.
          If available I prefer Rampe on Ricardi or even the Irishman.
          Obviously I worry about his injuries when stretched but if he’s not fit he won’t be selected, will he?
          GWS has a great balance but their strongest asset this year has been their ability to go forward with pace and create an overlap. We must be able to win our share of one on ones, Blakey, Melican and McCartin have been outstanding at interception but GWS are so accomplished with ball in hand that turnovers will be only brought about by pressure on the ball carrier.
          Campbell, Rowbottom, McInerney, et al must be able to break down their connections at source. We must tackle with precision. Last week we managed the levels that had been missing against both Richmond and West Coast, if we drop below that intensity then their attacking players will cut us up.
          Whitfield is a key and Wicks or Fox must lock him down. They are vulnerable only if we don’t bomb long to a contest, we need time and space to hit leading players because Taylor and Buckley are outstanding aerialists. I believe Hayward and Parker could be the keys here. Let’s draw their tall defenders away and kick to those two.


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          • The Big Cat
            On the veteran's list
            • Apr 2006
            • 2349

            #35
            Rampe for Campbell
            Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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            • Dow
              Regular in the Side
              • Sep 2022
              • 799

              #36
              Big in with Ramps back, smart to give Parker more time and Campbell needs game time (and in the midfield)

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              • liz
                Veteran
                Site Admin
                • Jan 2003
                • 16736

                #37
                The emergencies named confuse me.

                Longmire wants to give Parker another full game in the VFL to get more conditioning. He has demoted Campbell to ensure he gets a full game. So if the weather is awful on Saturday afternoon and they decide to swap a tall for a small, who comes in? Clearly not Ladhams.

                The positive is that the VFL game follows the AFL game this week, so there will be no need to pull someone from the VFL game at half-time to hold them over as senior emergency.

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                • Mel_C
                  Veterans List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 4470

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                  Hey Stevo

                  It’s not about the recent injury for Callum

                  Callum has struggled with Achilles tendinitis and calf strains most of his AFL career.

                  It was that the Swans were not transparent re his rotator cuff injury and estimated time to recover when the media and players and many supporters know that it is a tricky injury / surgery to rehab from and was always going to be around 9months which it is right now since his surgery.

                  The Swans did t seem to like the headlines of out for 9months and second time Callum had a significant accident via post season mad Mondays etc.

                  ....
                  When was the other time Mills was injured during Mad Monday? The other significant Mills injury that I recall was when he injured himself (ankle?), throwing a gridiron ball after training and tripped on a drain.

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                  • Mel_C
                    Veterans List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 4470

                    #39
                    Originally posted by graemed
                    Rampe is a great match-up for the Toby but I prefer Florent for this job. I want to see how accountable we can make him and his lack of sustained pace and endurance can be exposed.
                    If available I prefer Rampe on Ricardi or even the Irishman.
                    Was Florent the one that played on Toby the last time we played GWS at the SCG, and he allowed Toby to kick the winning goal due to his poor positioning at the stoppage? He is a much better player this year so I hope he has learned his lesson.

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                    • The Big Cat
                      On the veteran's list
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 2349

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Mel_C
                      Was Florent the one that played on Toby the last time we played GWS at the SCG, and he allowed Toby to kick the winning goal due to his poor positioning at the stoppage? He is a much better player this year so I hope he has learned his lesson.
                      It was BJ that was supposed to cover him at the throw in.
                      Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                      • cherub
                        Warming the Bench
                        • May 2010
                        • 239

                        #41
                        I seem to recall it was Dylan Stephens who got flack about uncovered Toby.

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                        • graemed
                          Swans2win
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 410

                          #42
                          Notwithstanding the excellence of your recall of events that until now I was earnestly trying to forget but my point remains that I believe we can exploit Green’s weakness as a defender by using Florent whenever there is an opportunity to run away from defence.
                          They will be expecting and preparing for Blakey and will probably try to use a defensive midfielder in that role, so I’m suggesting we opt for something else to break open their backline dominance. Green does not chase preferring to get out the back, my point is we can expose his laziness by giving the pill to Ollie and telling to go.


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                          • longmile
                            Crumber
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 3360

                            #43
                            Given the wet week and expected drizzle would love to see a late change with Amartey out and Parker in

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                            • waswan
                              Senior Player
                              • Oct 2015
                              • 2047

                              #44
                              Originally posted by longmile
                              Given the wet week and expected drizzle would love to see a late change with Amartey out and Parker in
                              Has to be, cant let Amartey show up with fools gold every 3 weeks and hold his spot.
                              We played Hawks last week, he should have beat up on them, he basically had the same output as me and I was in WA.

                              I watched a few times, high ball into the fwd line and he doesnt jump at it, even when he has a run, he just tries to find a body. Need to forget the opposition, if you have a run jump at it.

                              Talk about every opportunity in the world.

                              Also need to get Cambpell and Sheldrick into this side.

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                              • i'm-uninformed2
                                Reefer Madness
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 4653

                                #45
                                Love this. They had a parents day today, including McInerney’s dad. Not hard to see where young Justin gets his confidence and effervescence.

                                'Delicious' is a fun word to say

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